On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:23:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.

Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi. Made
in the same factory, same line.

Cite, please?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi.
Made
in the same factory, same line.

------------------------------

I bought one of the 18 volt cordless Craftsman "kits" at Sears back in
2000. It had the drill motor (with hammer drill setting), the little
circular saw and a "Sawsall" type saw

I used them almost daily in Florida building a very large, fenced
horse paddock for my wife's horses, decks, and all kinds of projects
over the past 13 years. They rarely sat idle for more than a few days
because with a barn and horses, there is always something to repair or
build.

Last winter I used them daily building the stage and additional rooms
at the new guitar shop. They must have had 100s of hours of use and
abuse over the 13 years. I had three NiCad batteries that were the
originals that came with the set and they also lasted for 13 years of
fairly heavy and regular use. The batteries finally gave up the ghost
about halfway through the construction at the guitar shop last winter.
I would have bought new ones if I could find them, but I figured I had
certainly got my money's worth over 13 years, so I ended up buying a
new set. Decided to try a PortaCable 18 volt set. So far they seem
fine but I doubt they will last 13 years under the same level of use
like the Craftsman set did. I don't know who was making them for
Craftsman back in 2000, but they were good.

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:04:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi.
Made
in the same factory, same line.

------------------------------

I bought one of the 18 volt cordless Craftsman "kits" at Sears back in
2000. It had the drill motor (with hammer drill setting), the little
circular saw and a "Sawsall" type saw

I used them almost daily in Florida building a very large, fenced
horse paddock for my wife's horses, decks, and all kinds of projects
over the past 13 years. They rarely sat idle for more than a few days
because with a barn and horses, there is always something to repair or
build.

Last winter I used them daily building the stage and additional rooms
at the new guitar shop. They must have had 100s of hours of use and
abuse over the 13 years. I had three NiCad batteries that were the
originals that came with the set and they also lasted for 13 years of
fairly heavy and regular use. The batteries finally gave up the ghost
about halfway through the construction at the guitar shop last winter.
I would have bought new ones if I could find them, but I figured I had
certainly got my money's worth over 13 years, so I ended up buying a
new set. Decided to try a PortaCable 18 volt set. So far they seem
fine but I doubt they will last 13 years under the same level of use
like the Craftsman set did. I don't know who was making them for
Craftsman back in 2000, but they were good.


I've taken my DeWalt batteries into these guys for a rebuild at about half the cost of a new
battery. They just replace the cells. If the battery is held together with screws, there's no
problem. Some of the cases are glued together. If so, they make no guarantees, but won't charge if
they break the case trying to get it open. Since the batteries were shot anyway, I didn't care if
they broke the case. The rebuilt an 18V and a 12V.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:17:33 -0400, John H wrote:

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:04:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi.
Made
in the same factory, same line.

------------------------------

I bought one of the 18 volt cordless Craftsman "kits" at Sears back in
2000. It had the drill motor (with hammer drill setting), the little
circular saw and a "Sawsall" type saw

I used them almost daily in Florida building a very large, fenced
horse paddock for my wife's horses, decks, and all kinds of projects
over the past 13 years. They rarely sat idle for more than a few days
because with a barn and horses, there is always something to repair or
build.

Last winter I used them daily building the stage and additional rooms
at the new guitar shop. They must have had 100s of hours of use and
abuse over the 13 years. I had three NiCad batteries that were the
originals that came with the set and they also lasted for 13 years of
fairly heavy and regular use. The batteries finally gave up the ghost
about halfway through the construction at the guitar shop last winter.
I would have bought new ones if I could find them, but I figured I had
certainly got my money's worth over 13 years, so I ended up buying a
new set. Decided to try a PortaCable 18 volt set. So far they seem
fine but I doubt they will last 13 years under the same level of use
like the Craftsman set did. I don't know who was making them for
Craftsman back in 2000, but they were good.


I've taken my DeWalt batteries into these guys for a rebuild at about half the cost of a new
battery. They just replace the cells. If the battery is held together with screws, there's no
problem. Some of the cases are glued together. If so, they make no guarantees, but won't charge if
they break the case trying to get it open. Since the batteries were shot anyway, I didn't care if
they broke the case. The rebuilt an 18V and a 12V.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Whooops. Here's the URL: http://www.batteriesplus.com/ There are some in MA.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

"John H" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:17:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:04:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi.
Made
in the same factory, same line.

------------------------------

I bought one of the 18 volt cordless Craftsman "kits" at Sears back
in
2000. It had the drill motor (with hammer drill setting), the
little
circular saw and a "Sawsall" type saw

I used them almost daily in Florida building a very large, fenced
horse paddock for my wife's horses, decks, and all kinds of projects
over the past 13 years. They rarely sat idle for more than a few
days
because with a barn and horses, there is always something to repair
or
build.

Last winter I used them daily building the stage and additional
rooms
at the new guitar shop. They must have had 100s of hours of use and
abuse over the 13 years. I had three NiCad batteries that were the
originals that came with the set and they also lasted for 13 years
of
fairly heavy and regular use. The batteries finally gave up the
ghost
about halfway through the construction at the guitar shop last
winter.
I would have bought new ones if I could find them, but I figured I
had
certainly got my money's worth over 13 years, so I ended up buying a
new set. Decided to try a PortaCable 18 volt set. So far they
seem
fine but I doubt they will last 13 years under the same level of use
like the Craftsman set did. I don't know who was making them for
Craftsman back in 2000, but they were good.


I've taken my DeWalt batteries into these guys for a rebuild at about
half the cost of a new
battery. They just replace the cells. If the battery is held together
with screws, there's no
problem. Some of the cases are glued together. If so, they make no
guarantees, but won't charge if
they break the case trying to get it open. Since the batteries were
shot anyway, I didn't care if
they broke the case. The rebuilt an 18V and a 12V.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Whooops. Here's the URL: http://www.batteriesplus.com/ There are some
in MA.

John (Gun Nut) H.

-------------------------

Thanks!

On 8/31/2013 11:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and
less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.


We're all rootin fer ya, pal. Good lick and happy drillin.

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:22:27 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 8/31/2013 11:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and
less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.


We're all rootin fer ya, pal. Good lick and happy drillin.

I'm expecting to see some fantastic hole photos, maybe with owls and barns therein!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/1/2013 8:00 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:22:27 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 8/31/2013 11:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and
less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.


We're all rootin fer ya, pal. Good lick and happy drillin.

I'm expecting to see some fantastic hole photos, maybe with owls and barns therein!

John (Gun Nut) H.


12 volts is more than enough to poke holes in paper targets....

On 9/1/2013 8:00 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:22:27 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 8/31/2013 11:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and
less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.


We're all rootin fer ya, pal. Good lick and happy drillin.

I'm expecting to see some fantastic hole photos, maybe with owls and barns therein!

John (Gun Nut) H.

Is he moving into bird house construction?

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:23:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 8/31/13 10:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/30/13 5:33 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/30/2013 3:15 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/30/2013 2:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/pqcmf4x


The new Makita 12 volt 3/8" drill is about half the weight and less than
2/3'rds the size of the DeWalt 12 volt 3/8" drill.

Behind the DeWalt on the left is the 12 volt Ni-Cad battery for that
drill. In the middle is the 7.2 volt Ni-Cad battery for our DeWalt
screwdriver. On the right is the 12 volt li ion battery for the new
Makita. It is by far the smallest of the three batteries.

Where were you when we were discussing LION batteries?

Googling.

I did google a number of sites that rated small battery power tools, and
checked out a half dozen different brands of 12 volt 3/8" li ion drills.
Just about every site had good things to report about the Makita, its
batteries and charger.

This will be a light use drill. I have *two* AC powered drills, one a
hammer drill, for heavy use, such as drilling into concrete. I don't
need a heavy duty drill for drilling into drywall or framing lumber, nor
do I do that all day long.

I'll be using the new drill over the weekend. Came with two batteries,
and its light and easy to handle. I'm sure it'll be ok.

Bought it on-line from Home Despot, delivered via USPS in one day.

Don't blame Scotty's insane blurts on him. It's his jawbone's fault. At
least that's what he told Luddite!


I happened to be up at Home Despot earlier this morning, buying more
mulch (it never ends). Anyway, I chatted with the tool department
manager and was told that compared to many of their other brands, they
get far fewer "returns" for any reasons of the Makita tools. The one I
bought is not the cheapest light 12 volt 3/8" drill, but it is one of
the store's most popular. I'm sure it'll work out fine...I'm not going
to be using it to drill into steel plate or concrete...drywall, wall
studs, et cetera, is pretty much it. Oh, another brand with few returns:
Rigid.

Ryobi has very good cordless tools. You can go with Craftsman, but
you'll be paying twice as much for the same, exact Ryobi. The only
difference is the outside. Everything inside is the same as Ryobi. Made
in the same factory, same line.

Cite, please?

John (Gun Nut) H.

My eyes.