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Religious Craziness Sends Man Back to Jail
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says... On 8/30/13 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 8/29/13 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:16:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/29/13 3:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:23:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/29/13 1:12 PM, wrote: I believe that is because of the support component that Harry dismisses in such a cavalier way. I don't dismiss support programs for substance abusers. Once again, apparently, you cannot comprehend what you read. What I did say is that the religious-osity, as it were, of 12-step programs, is offputting to a substantial percentage of substance abusers. There is significant published criticism for various reasons of 12-step programs. The hard choices an addict needs to make is the main thing that puts them off. They just use "religious-osity" as one more excuse. Gee, I'm glad you have so much experience dealing with the huge variety of substance abusers and therefore feel qualified to state that those who disdain the 12 steps approach because of religious reasons do so as an excuse. Obviously, whatever your profession was, you chose poorly...since you could have been a first-rate therapist. What is your experience? I'm married to a first-rate psychotherapist who has seen and successfully treated a great number of substance abusers in several settings over her two decades as a licensed practitioner. She sometimes talks about what works and what doesn't for various folks who remain anonymous. Her doctoral dissertation was on a significant aspect of substance abuse, and she has written other papers that also have been published. She consults with NiMH professionals on substance abuse topics. Additionally, I've read "the lit" that comes to the house (professional papers and journals) and I know thought my union work a lot of construction workers in many trades who at some point in their careers suffered severe injuries, were prescribed heavy duty meds, got hooked, and then got clean and stayed clean. As a result, I wouldn't make the sweeping statements you make about substance abusers, or that, as you implied, a large number of those who disdain the 12 step programs because of their religious-osity just do so so they can remain outside of a therapeutic or support service. Do you mean the bricklayer's union rep? You just can't help yourself, eh? No, I really can't help but think about the truth. |
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