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On 8/28/13 3:50 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:17:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/28/13 1:08 PM, wrote:

Conventional therapy is substituting one drug for another.
Is Methadone really that much better than Heroin?
I understand drug companies make the money not drug smugglers but the
drug is about the same.

Religion based programs do have the advantage that they are
substituting a belief for a drug but I guess you think that is as bad.

I do agree it is not the kind of thing that will be successful if it
is just a sentence from a court. They have to believe it will work or
it won't work. The reality is these things don't really work anyway
until the addict decides they don't want to be addicted anymore.
For some, there is no "bottom" that is low enough to do that.

Maybe we should just have drug zones and let them kill themselves.
Free drugs, all you want anytime you want them and come in every
morning with a Bobcat to pick up the bodies.

There are many types of what you call "conventional" therapy. The
12-step programs are not really therapy; they are support mechanisms.

And, once again, if you are an addict on serious **** like heroin, and
you stop cold turkey without using a prescribed substitute under careful
watch, you might die while trying to get clean.

Most of these people continue to use when they are in the 12 step
program

Really? What stat base are you using for that claim?

And, no, I don't believe "faith healing" is the antidote for physical or
mental/emotional illnesses. God didn't make you sick and god isn't going
to cure you.

This isn't "healing" it is simply substituting faith for drugs.
It works for some people and I would not deny them the opportunity.
I agree with you, this should not be court ordered, per se but it
should be an option in court ordered rehab.

Rehab, any kind, is generally ineffective over the long haul.
People either decide to stop or they don't but you can't make them if
they don't want to.

Right, so let's not even try, right?

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