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iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 01:08 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/4/2013 3:12 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:07:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/4/13 1:52 PM,
wrote:

Ahh, well then, perhaps we should issue unmarried teen girls "rape
kits," which, according to Texas Republican State Representative Jodie
Laubenberg, ?Clean you out? so you won?t get pregnant or diseased..."

No question they'd prevent non-rape pregnancies too, right?


I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.


I am amazed that these left wing guys are so hot to not take care of
their children, they will have the women having abortions in nasty,
unhealthy, understaffed, under equipt, sweat shops...


Hey, Jawbone, where did anyone here say anything about not taking care
of their children? I'd suppose encouraging your kids to get tattoos all
over their bodies and pierce everything that has a fold of skin is good
parenting?

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 01:25 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.


I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.


===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 01:26 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:54:52 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/4/2013 3:12 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:07:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/4/13 1:52 PM,
wrote:

Ahh, well then, perhaps we should issue unmarried teen girls "rape
kits," which, according to Texas Republican State Representative Jodie
Laubenberg, “Clean you out” so you won’t get pregnant or diseased..."

No question they'd prevent non-rape pregnancies too, right?


I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.


I am amazed that these left wing guys are so hot to not take care of
their children, they will have the women having abortions in nasty,
unhealthy, understaffed, under equipt, sweat shops...


Don't need those shops. The pill simplifies the problem.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Wayne.B August 5th 13 02:20 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:25:06 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.


===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.


====

It's dangerous to generalize about incest, and somtimes rape, since
the victims are frequently young and immature, not to mention the
shame and family complexities.

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 02:38 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.


===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Who said that?

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 02:39 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:25:06 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.


====

It's dangerous to generalize about incest, and somtimes rape, since
the victims are frequently young and immature, not to mention the
shame and family complexities.


Not for John. He thinks a person should be able to decide such heavy
issues immediately.

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 02:48 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/13 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Who said that?


It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.



John H[_2_] August 5th 13 03:09 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:20:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:25:06 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.


There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.


====

It's dangerous to generalize about incest, and somtimes rape, since
the victims are frequently young and immature, not to mention the
shame and family complexities.


If the victims are old enough to get pregnant, then they're old enough to know about the pill. If
parents and the schools are so interested in sex education then the morning after pill should be the
first thing on the agenda.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 03:10 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:48:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.

There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Who said that?


It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


School nurses. Hell, if rubbers are being dispensed in schools, the morning after pill should be
provided also.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hankİ[_3_] August 5th 13 04:07 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 9:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/5/13 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and
reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.

There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim
of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Who said that?


It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

Hankİ[_3_] August 5th 13 04:11 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 10:10 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:48:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:52:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

I would certainly support giving Plan B away.
I am amazed that these right wing guys are against abortion for poor
people. It should be encouraged.

You make a 15 year old have her baby and you ruin 2 lives.

I agree 100%. Giving the pill away should help that problem and reduce the number of abortions.

===

That's an entirely reasonable position in my opinion. Help spread
the word.

There's still the problem of those who think it takes a female victim of rape or incest more than 20
weeks to decide whether or not to keep the baby.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Who said that?


It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


School nurses. Hell, if rubbers are being dispensed in schools, the morning after pill should be
provided also.

John (Gun Nut) H.

You are assuming that these school age children are actually students.

Wayne.B August 5th 13 05:26 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Hankİ[_3_] August 5th 13 05:51 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Too ashamed to open her mouth and ask for help? I didn't think of that.

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 06:00 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Even the small towns have schools and counselors (sp?). Do you think the baby won't show?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 06:22 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.



I don't believe there is any substantial numbers of young women in the
US that don't have access to a school nurse...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 06:26 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 12:51 PM, Hankİ wrote:
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he
thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Too ashamed to open her mouth and ask for help? I didn't think of that.


The whole system is designed to keep folks from being accountable from
the rapist that raped the minor, to the minor who just decided to have
sex...

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 06:51 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/13 1:22 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he
thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.



I don't believe there is any substantial numbers of young women in the
US that don't have access to a school nurse...



How the hell would an ignorant toad like you have such information?

1. What percentage of public K-12 schools have full-time nurses on the
premises for the school day?

2. What percentage have part-time nurses on the premises part of the day
or only a couple of days a week?

3. What percentage have no nurses on the premises during the week?

Now, what percentage of school districts will have the pill readily
available.

How about private non-religious and religious affiliated schools?

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 06:58 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/5/2013 12:51 PM, Hankİ wrote:
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he
thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Too ashamed to open her mouth and ask for help? I didn't think of that.


The whole system is designed to keep folks from being accountable from
the rapist that raped the minor, to the minor who just decided to have
sex...


Which of those categories does your kid fall, asshole?

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 06:58 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:36:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


For every Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, there are a million girls
raising their illegitimate child on the public dole ... alone.


Herring said UNWED PARENTS. There is a huge difference between "children
born out of wedlock" and single parenting.


Murphy Brown was a sit com, not a documentary. Most unwed mothers are
poor and living on their own.


Cite?

Wayne.B August 5th 13 07:21 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:00:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?


===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Even the small towns have schools and counselors (sp?). Do you think the baby won't show?


====

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 07:30 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:58:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:36:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


For every Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, there are a million girls
raising their illegitimate child on the public dole ... alone.

Herring said UNWED PARENTS. There is a huge difference between "children
born out of wedlock" and single parenting.


Murphy Brown was a sit com, not a documentary. Most unwed mothers are
poor and living on their own.


Cite?


http://tinyurl.com/o42at

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 07:31 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:51:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 1:22 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he
thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.



I don't believe there is any substantial numbers of young women in the
US that don't have access to a school nurse...



How the hell would an ignorant toad like you have such information?

1. What percentage of public K-12 schools have full-time nurses on the
premises for the school day?

2. What percentage have part-time nurses on the premises part of the day
or only a couple of days a week?

3. What percentage have no nurses on the premises during the week?

Now, what percentage of school districts will have the pill readily
available.

How about private non-religious and religious affiliated schools?


All of them should have the pill readily available. That's the point.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] August 5th 13 07:34 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:00:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Even the small towns have schools and counselors (sp?). Do you think the baby won't show?


====

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.


It should be in the same drawer as the band-aids. That's my point.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 07:49 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Small towns are not where the problem lies.




Don't you righties even bother to look?

Rural teens at high risk for pregnancy, analysis finds

Michelle Healy, USA TODAY 12:01 a.m. EST February 21, 2013

First-of-its-kind analysis by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and
Unplanned Pregnancy shows that the teen birth rate in rural counties is
nearly one-third higher than the rest of the nation.

Nationally, the birth rate for U.S. teens has plunged to record low
levels, but a new analysis shows that a disproportionate share of teen
births are in rural communities.

In 2010, the birth rate for girls ages 15 to 19 in rural counties was 43
per 1,000, nearly one-third higher than the rate for metropolitan
counties (33 per 1,000), says a report released Thursday.


http://tinyurl.com/a84uowf

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 07:55 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:58:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:36:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


For every Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, there are a million girls
raising their illegitimate child on the public dole ... alone.

Herring said UNWED PARENTS. There is a huge difference between "children
born out of wedlock" and single parenting.

Murphy Brown was a sit com, not a documentary. Most unwed mothers are
poor and living on their own.


Cite?


http://tinyurl.com/o42at

John (Gun Nut) H.


Idiot.

iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 07:56 PM

Ain't we great?
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:58:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

.

Murphy Brown was a sit com, not a documentary. Most unwed mothers are
poor and living on their own.


Cite?


Really?
Look at the statistics from any big city in the US.


I asked for a cite showing that "most unwed mother are poor and living
on their own".

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 08:06 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.


The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.



JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 09:37 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 2:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:00:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Even the small towns have schools and counselors (sp?). Do you think the baby won't show?


====

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.


And any school nurse can tell you exactly where to get the pill....
again, there is no statistically significant number of girls who don't
have access to a school nurse....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 09:40 PM

Ain't we great?
 
On 8/5/2013 2:31 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:51:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 1:22 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/5/2013 12:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:07:54 -0400, Hankİ
wrote:

It is telling that Herring is so close-minded and unreasonable he
thinks
there are simple solutions for all of these unwanted or forced
pregnancies. Even the logistical problem of getting the pill might
stymie some younger girls.


Can you give a real or hypothetical example that we might ponder?

===

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.



I don't believe there is any substantial numbers of young women in the
US that don't have access to a school nurse...



How the hell would an ignorant toad like you have such information?

1. What percentage of public K-12 schools have full-time nurses on the
premises for the school day?

2. What percentage have part-time nurses on the premises part of the day
or only a couple of days a week?

3. What percentage have no nurses on the premises during the week?

Now, what percentage of school districts will have the pill readily
available.

How about private non-religious and religious affiliated schools?


All of them should have the pill readily available. That's the point.

John (Gun Nut) H.


And my point is, most of them already do... They just have to ask for it.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 09:41 PM

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On 8/5/2013 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Small towns are not where the problem lies.



Agreed...^^^^^^

Califbill August 5th 13 10:59 PM

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.


Small towns are not where the problem lies.




Don't you righties even bother to look?

Rural teens at high risk for pregnancy, analysis finds

Michelle Healy, USA TODAY 12:01 a.m. EST February 21, 2013

First-of-its-kind analysis by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and
Unplanned Pregnancy shows that the teen birth rate in rural counties is
nearly one-third higher than the rest of the nation.

Nationally, the birth rate for U.S. teens has plunged to record low
levels, but a new analysis shows that a disproportionate share of teen
births are in rural communities.

In 2010, the birth rate for girls ages 15 to 19 in rural counties was 43
per 1,000, nearly one-third higher than the rate for metropolitan
counties (33 per 1,000), says a report released Thursday.


http://tinyurl.com/a84uowf


The problem is there are a lot more urban kids than rural kids. As well as
certain urban areas have an extremely high rate of teen births.

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 11:02 PM

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On 8/5/13 5:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Small towns are not where the problem lies.




Don't you righties even bother to look?

Rural teens at high risk for pregnancy, analysis finds

Michelle Healy, USA TODAY 12:01 a.m. EST February 21, 2013

First-of-its-kind analysis by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and
Unplanned Pregnancy shows that the teen birth rate in rural counties is
nearly one-third higher than the rest of the nation.

Nationally, the birth rate for U.S. teens has plunged to record low
levels, but a new analysis shows that a disproportionate share of teen
births are in rural communities.

In 2010, the birth rate for girls ages 15 to 19 in rural counties was 43
per 1,000, nearly one-third higher than the rate for metropolitan
counties (33 per 1,000), says a report released Thursday.


http://tinyurl.com/a84uowf


The problem is there are a lot more urban kids than rural kids. As well as
certain urban areas have an extremely high rate of teen births.



That is a problem, but the pregnancy rate is higher among rural girls.
They must be less moral, right? :)

Califbill August 5th 13 11:13 PM

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 5:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Small towns are not where the problem lies.




Don't you righties even bother to look?

Rural teens at high risk for pregnancy, analysis finds

Michelle Healy, USA TODAY 12:01 a.m. EST February 21, 2013

First-of-its-kind analysis by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and
Unplanned Pregnancy shows that the teen birth rate in rural counties is
nearly one-third higher than the rest of the nation.

Nationally, the birth rate for U.S. teens has plunged to record low
levels, but a new analysis shows that a disproportionate share of teen
births are in rural communities.

In 2010, the birth rate for girls ages 15 to 19 in rural counties was 43
per 1,000, nearly one-third higher than the rate for metropolitan
counties (33 per 1,000), says a report released Thursday.


http://tinyurl.com/a84uowf


The problem is there are a lot more urban kids than rural kids. As well as
certain urban areas have an extremely high rate of teen births.



That is a problem, but the pregnancy rate is higher among rural girls.
They must be less moral, right? :)


Actually, if you also select only low income urban areas, the rate would
most likely be exponentially higher than rural areas.

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 11:20 PM

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On 8/5/13 6:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 5:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/5/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:26:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Easy.

Small towns where there may not even be a local pharmacy, and even it
there is, everyone knows everyone else's business.

Small towns are not where the problem lies.




Don't you righties even bother to look?

Rural teens at high risk for pregnancy, analysis finds

Michelle Healy, USA TODAY 12:01 a.m. EST February 21, 2013

First-of-its-kind analysis by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and
Unplanned Pregnancy shows that the teen birth rate in rural counties is
nearly one-third higher than the rest of the nation.

Nationally, the birth rate for U.S. teens has plunged to record low
levels, but a new analysis shows that a disproportionate share of teen
births are in rural communities.

In 2010, the birth rate for girls ages 15 to 19 in rural counties was 43
per 1,000, nearly one-third higher than the rate for metropolitan
counties (33 per 1,000), says a report released Thursday.


http://tinyurl.com/a84uowf

The problem is there are a lot more urban kids than rural kids. As well as
certain urban areas have an extremely high rate of teen births.



That is a problem, but the pregnancy rate is higher among rural girls.
They must be less moral, right? :)


Actually, if you also select only low income urban areas, the rate would
most likely be exponentially higher than rural areas.



And rocks have weight because if they didn't, they'd be floating in the
air, eh?

Wayne.B August 5th 13 11:22 PM

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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:56:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I asked for a cite showing that "most unwed mother are poor and living
on their own".


===

The vast majority are, and the kids are usually raised by a
grandmother.

Eisboch[_9_] August 5th 13 11:26 PM

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever
it's
being called today.


The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work
overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high
school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen
pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease
and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.

-----------------------------

It used to be that dear old mom and dad provided that education.




F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 11:34 PM

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On 8/5/13 6:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.


The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.

-----------------------------

It used to be that dear old mom and dad provided that education.



Apparently in a significant percentage of households, dear old mom and
dad don't. It's an appropriate subject for the public schools to teach.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 11:46 PM

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On 8/5/2013 6:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.


The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.

-----------------------------

It used to be that dear old mom and dad provided that education.




Don't let him fool you Dick. Next time it will be 8-9 year olds...

F.O.A.D. August 5th 13 11:49 PM

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On 8/5/13 6:46 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/5/2013 6:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever it's
being called today.

The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.

-----------------------------

It used to be that dear old mom and dad provided that education.




Don't let him fool you Dick. Next time it will be 8-9 year olds...


No one here is interested in what happens in your house.

Eisboch[_9_] August 6th 13 12:17 AM

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wrote in message ...

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:06:38 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:21:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

The question was about ready access to the 24 hour pill, whatever
it's
being called today.


The biggest problem with that pill is they cost about $40.
Still a bargain compared to the alternative tho.

The problem with young girls is denial. They don't believe they are
pregnant for weeks.


Part of that problem is that righties in school districts work
overtime
to make sure that 10-11 year olds of both genders don't get direct,
explicit sex ed instructions, including how pregnancies are
prevented,
and that sex ed continue through at least the first year of high
school
as mandatory subjects.

Sex is not bad, and abstention preaching leads only to teen
pregnancies.
Pre-teens are going to experiment. It's appropriate to make sure they
know what they are doing and that they take steps to prevent disease
and
pregnancy when they become sexually active.


I agree sex education should be more honest but there is nothing
scarier than the actual reality of being a teen mom.
Just explain the truth.
It is the end of your hopes and dreams. You are going to de doomed to
a life of diapers, other ****ty jobs and poverty.

------------------------------------

It's been many years since I had kids in jr. or senior high school, so
I may be wrong but I just can't picture a public school sex education
curriculum that addresses the issues you pointed out. That has to
come from the parents and family.




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