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iBoaterer[_3_] August 5th 13 08:02 PM

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says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay
about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are
bull****, right?


He had one arrest and no charges.


Martin had none.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute August 5th 13 10:45 PM

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On 8/5/2013 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:24:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Again, none of the lefties I know consider Martin anything more than a
victim, and certainly not a "hero."


Explain the million hoodie march.


Sharpton and Jackson doing their jobs, earning their 2000 dollar suits..

Tim August 6th 13 02:47 AM

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On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:34:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



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says...




On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:01:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:




In article ,


says...




On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:




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On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:36:34 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:




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On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:25:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:




Boy, you sure are blind then, Jawbone Scotty! Zimmerman battered a


police officer, lied to the cops, beat his wife but he's not a


loser?????




Cite




No problem!




http://tinyurl.com/o9a4jzc






"In July 2005, he was arrested for ?resisting officer with violence.?


The neighborhood watch volunteer who wanted to be a cop got into a


scuffle with cops who were questioning a friend for alleged underage


drinking. The charges were reduced and then waived after he entered an


alcohol education program."




"Then in August 2005, Zimmerman?s former fiance sought a restraining


order against him because of domestic violence. Zimmerman sought a


restraining order against her in return. Both were granted."






And the lies to police:




http://tinyurl.com/lmcl2vr








Oh, according to his cousin, he molested her when she was young.






That sounds like "opinion" from a place with "Partisan" in it's name.




"The woman said Zimmerman would fondle her and penetrated her vagina


with his fingers. She also revealed that Zimmerman molested other young


girls. She spoke with a woman who was molested by Zimmerman as a youth,


but the woman wanted to maintain her privacy. When she was 12 years old,


Zimmerman made her rub his penis. Other times, he would take her to


vacant rooms and kiss and fondle her."




That you would stick up for a piece of **** that would do that is awful


and I thought more of you than that.






Was that Zimmerman, or your bud Krause? Harry's said such behavior is quite appropriate, or words to


that effect.




John (Gun Nut) H.




Cite?




Right here!




http://tinyurl.com/o42at




Learn to read!




John (Gun Nut) H.




READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay


about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are


bull****, right?




Well, if arrests make one a 'bad' person, then you should ask your newfound buddy about this:





8/8/01



Au contraire...having worked as a mid and upper level troublemaker* for both

the NEA and the AFT, I can testify first-hand that there are no organizations

more democratic. They will talk every single subject to death, until

everyone's opinion is heard at least three times.



*My professional resume include a mention of the time I was cited for

*criminal* contempt of court, jailed briefly and fined 50 Large in New York

State for activities aimed at prolonging a teachers' strike a judge wanted

ended. The charges later were dropped. I enjoyed every minute of it.

--

Harry Krause

------------





John (Gun Nut) H.

--



Hope you're having a great day!


Oh man.

F.O.A.D. August 6th 13 11:51 AM

Which...
 
On 8/5/13 9:47 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:34:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:


Was that Zimmerman, or your bud Krause? Harry's said such behavior is quite appropriate, or words to


that effect.




John (Gun Nut) H.




Cite?




Right here!




http://tinyurl.com/o42at




Learn to read!




John (Gun Nut) H.




READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay


about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are


bull****, right?




Well, if arrests make one a 'bad' person, then you should ask your newfound buddy about this:





8/8/01



Au contraire...having worked as a mid and upper level troublemaker* for both

the NEA and the AFT, I can testify first-hand that there are no organizations

more democratic. They will talk every single subject to death, until

everyone's opinion is heard at least three times.



*My professional resume include a mention of the time I was cited for

*criminal* contempt of court, jailed briefly and fined 50 Large in New York

State for activities aimed at prolonging a teachers' strike a judge wanted

ended. The charges later were dropped. I enjoyed every minute of it.

--

Harry Krause

------------





John (Gun Nut) H.

--



Hope you're having a great day!


Oh man.



Hey, it wasn't as if I lied my country into a war against Iraq or
Afghanistan, and there was no criminal penalty for public employee
strikes in the state at that time. The judge ordered striking teachers
back to work, but the only penalty for them was to lose two days pay for
every day the strike lasted, and the issue was such that the teachers
were willing to stay out a while longer. The strike was not over pay.

So the judge ordered each teacher to line up in front of the courthouse
so he or she could be individually served with his back to work order. I
had the teachers that showed up for that "show of force" come out the
back door of the courthouse so they could plop those orders into a steel
trash bin in which I had a fire burning.

All was forgiven by the end of the day, the strike lasted another few
days, and the board of education agreed to go back to the bargaining
table and negotiate, which was what the strike was all about, because
the public employee statutes required the board to negotiate "in good
faith," and the strike came about because it refused to do so.
Unfortunately at the time there were no civil penalties to force the
board back to the bargaining table.

Oh, there were no weapons involved, and no one got shoved. Peaceful
civil disobedience, as it were.





John H[_2_] August 6th 13 04:07 PM

Which...
 
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:51:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 9:47 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:34:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:


Was that Zimmerman, or your bud Krause? Harry's said such behavior is quite appropriate, or words to

that effect.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Cite?



Right here!



http://tinyurl.com/o42at



Learn to read!



John (Gun Nut) H.



READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay

about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are

bull****, right?



Well, if arrests make one a 'bad' person, then you should ask your newfound buddy about this:





8/8/01



Au contraire...having worked as a mid and upper level troublemaker* for both

the NEA and the AFT, I can testify first-hand that there are no organizations

more democratic. They will talk every single subject to death, until

everyone's opinion is heard at least three times.



*My professional resume include a mention of the time I was cited for

*criminal* contempt of court, jailed briefly and fined 50 Large in New York

State for activities aimed at prolonging a teachers' strike a judge wanted

ended. The charges later were dropped. I enjoyed every minute of it.

--

Harry Krause

------------





John (Gun Nut) H.

--



Hope you're having a great day!


Oh man.



Hey, it wasn't as if I lied my country into a war against Iraq or
Afghanistan, and there was no criminal penalty for public employee
strikes in the state at that time. The judge ordered striking teachers
back to work, but the only penalty for them was to lose two days pay for
every day the strike lasted, and the issue was such that the teachers
were willing to stay out a while longer. The strike was not over pay.

So the judge ordered each teacher to line up in front of the courthouse
so he or she could be individually served with his back to work order. I
had the teachers that showed up for that "show of force" come out the
back door of the courthouse so they could plop those orders into a steel
trash bin in which I had a fire burning.

All was forgiven by the end of the day, the strike lasted another few
days, and the board of education agreed to go back to the bargaining
table and negotiate, which was what the strike was all about, because
the public employee statutes required the board to negotiate "in good
faith," and the strike came about because it refused to do so.
Unfortunately at the time there were no civil penalties to force the
board back to the bargaining table.

Oh, there were no weapons involved, and no one got shoved. Peaceful
civil disobedience, as it were.



Gosh, Zimmerman all over again.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_] August 6th 13 04:57 PM

Which...
 
On 8/6/2013 11:07 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:51:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 9:47 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:34:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:


Was that Zimmerman, or your bud Krause? Harry's said such behavior is quite appropriate, or words to

that effect.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Cite?



Right here!



http://tinyurl.com/o42at



Learn to read!



John (Gun Nut) H.



READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay

about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are

bull****, right?



Well, if arrests make one a 'bad' person, then you should ask your newfound buddy about this:





8/8/01



Au contraire...having worked as a mid and upper level troublemaker* for both

the NEA and the AFT, I can testify first-hand that there are no organizations

more democratic. They will talk every single subject to death, until

everyone's opinion is heard at least three times.



*My professional resume include a mention of the time I was cited for

*criminal* contempt of court, jailed briefly and fined 50 Large in New York

State for activities aimed at prolonging a teachers' strike a judge wanted

ended. The charges later were dropped. I enjoyed every minute of it.

--

Harry Krause

------------





John (Gun Nut) H.

--



Hope you're having a great day!

Oh man.



Hey, it wasn't as if I lied my country into a war against Iraq or
Afghanistan, and there was no criminal penalty for public employee
strikes in the state at that time. The judge ordered striking teachers
back to work, but the only penalty for them was to lose two days pay for
every day the strike lasted, and the issue was such that the teachers
were willing to stay out a while longer. The strike was not over pay.

So the judge ordered each teacher to line up in front of the courthouse
so he or she could be individually served with his back to work order. I
had the teachers that showed up for that "show of force" come out the
back door of the courthouse so they could plop those orders into a steel
trash bin in which I had a fire burning.

All was forgiven by the end of the day, the strike lasted another few
days, and the board of education agreed to go back to the bargaining
table and negotiate, which was what the strike was all about, because
the public employee statutes required the board to negotiate "in good
faith," and the strike came about because it refused to do so.
Unfortunately at the time there were no civil penalties to force the
board back to the bargaining table.

Oh, there were no weapons involved, and no one got shoved. Peaceful
civil disobedience, as it were.



Gosh, Zimmerman all over again.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Add firebug to his list of attributes.

iBoaterer[_3_] August 6th 13 07:21 PM

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says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:00:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:40:24 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which of these was he arrested for? I find it sickly hilarious that you
defend Zimmerman who WAS arrested and Martin who was NEVER arrested....

What was Zimmerman ever CHARGED with. That was your original
contention.


1. Resisting officer with violence. (this happened while he was
drinking, by the way)
2. Restraining order issued against him for domestic violence.


Now, what was Martin ever charged with again??


Neither ever resulted in a CHARGE.

Cops don't charge people, They simply arrest them. The DA or states
attorney decides whether there are grounds for an actual charge.


Nope, only for felonies in Florida, where Zimmerman lives.

Zimmerman was never charged with anything, even after he shot Martin,
until politicians up to and including the intruder in chief demanded
it. (for political reasons, not facts)
In retrospect the first opinion of the states attorney the night of
the shooting was the right one., There was no case there.
Our local DA was on TV here saying the same thing the day after the
verdict and he explained why.
Zimmerman, like it or not was within his rights to use deadly force to
stop a physical attack that did not seem to be stopping.


Now, what was Martin arrested for again? Oh, nothing.......

iBoaterer[_3_] August 6th 13 07:22 PM

Which...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:02:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

READ WHAT, idiot? Heresay? I'd guess in your narrow mind that heresay
about Martin is damning, but actual arrest records of Zimmerman are
bull****, right?

He had one arrest and no charges.


Martin had none.


But Martin was committing a "forcible felony" (aggravated assault)
when he was shot. A bystander could have legally shot him, in the
back.

776.012 Use of force in defense of person.?A person is justified in
using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the
extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is
necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other?s
imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the
use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to
prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or
another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony


What was Martin arrested for again?

iBoaterer[_3_] August 6th 13 07:22 PM

Which...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:38:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/5/13 2:30 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:24:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Again, none of the lefties I know consider Martin anything more than a
victim, and certainly not a "hero."

Explain the million hoodie march.


Oh, was the march to proclaim heroism?


It certainly elevated small time thuggery to an unprecedented level.


What "thuggery" did marching "elevate"?

iBoaterer[_3_] August 6th 13 07:25 PM

Which...
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/5/2013 2:30 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:24:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Again, none of the lefties I know consider Martin anything more than a
victim, and certainly not a "hero."


Explain the million hoodie march.


Sharpton and Jackson doing their jobs, earning their 2000 dollar suits..


That's old Jawbone Scotty, jealous of anybody that is industrious enough
to earn a decent living for their family.


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