On 7/30/13 2:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:11:25 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:21:20 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:





Don't cry donnie...



I still think it's hilariously funny that the dumbass just cant back his Boat in his Driveway.

That little girlie friend of yours needs his jaw broken and re-set to escape his madness.
He has no money , so maybe you can go visit him with your balsa wood toothpick and save him a lot of money.



The two Scotties are brothers and suffer from the same organic brain
disorder.

On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:12:22 UTC-3, John H wrote:


The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with

a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.

Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Looks like I have to straighten y'all out yet again..
I have never backed up over the curb. If someone was across the street , limiting maneuvering room, I'd just park the rig on the street until they left.
I have run over the curb a couple times 'exiting' my driveway due to tight conditions.

In article ,
says...

On 7/30/13 2:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:11:25 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:21:20 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:





Don't cry donnie...



I still think it's hilariously funny that the dumbass just cant back his Boat in his Driveway.

That little girlie friend of yours needs his jaw broken and re-set to escape his madness.
He has no money , so maybe you can go visit him with your balsa wood toothpick and save him a lot of money.



The two Scotties are brothers and suffer from the same organic brain
disorder.

Slammer had his jawbone broken too? After all, that's what Scotty blamed
his insanity on when Eisboch questioned him!

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:00:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:12:22 UTC-3, John H wrote:


The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with

a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.

Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Looks like I have to straighten y'all out yet again..
I have never backed up over the curb. If someone was across the street , limiting maneuvering room, I'd just park the rig on the street until they left.
I have run over the curb a couple times 'exiting' my driveway due to tight conditions.

There's nothing wrong with backing over the curb if you use a 'ramp' and go slowly. If that helps
get your boat in the driveway, it's what you should be doing.

Us'ns don't need no straightenin'. We don't have the backing problem.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 7/30/13 3:32 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/30/13 2:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:11:25 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:21:20 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:





Don't cry donnie...



I still think it's hilariously funny that the dumbass just cant back his Boat in his Driveway.

That little girlie friend of yours needs his jaw broken and re-set to escape his madness.
He has no money , so maybe you can go visit him with your balsa wood toothpick and save him a lot of money.



The two Scotties are brothers and suffer from the same organic brain
disorder.

Slammer had his jawbone broken too? After all, that's what Scotty blamed
his insanity on when Eisboch questioned him!


We'll probably never know who broke PsychoSnotty's jaw.

On 7/30/2013 2:12 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:41:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.


I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.

Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump,
that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The
technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to
get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would
guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as
good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick
every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge
incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that
change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow.
To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get
a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars,
flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby.

The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with
a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.
Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.

John (Gun Nut) H.


All I am saying is opposing inclines at the radius of the turn, creates
a lot of problems putting the tow vehicle and load, on different
planes... Tends to buckle the rig...

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:00:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Looks like I have to straighten y'all out yet again..
I have never backed up over the curb. If someone was across the street , limiting maneuvering room, I'd just park the rig on the street until they left.
I have run over the curb a couple times 'exiting' my driveway due to tight conditions.

===

The (well intentioned) suggestion was that you might consider backing
over the curb as a strategy for dealing with street congestion, hence
the further suggestion that you ease your way over the curb using a
couple of planks as a ramp of sorts. On the other hand if you're
comfortable with leaving the boat parked on the street until more
space becomes available, none of that is necessary. Some of us were
a bit concerned about your self described maneuvering by hand which
could be potentially dangerous if it gets away from you or strains
your back.

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:04:07 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/30/2013 2:12 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:41:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.


I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.

Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump,
that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The
technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to
get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would
guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as
good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick
every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge
incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that
change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow.
To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get
a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars,
flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby.

The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with
a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.
Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.

John (Gun Nut) H.


All I am saying is opposing inclines at the radius of the turn, creates
a lot of problems putting the tow vehicle and load, on different
planes... Tends to buckle the rig...

That's why there's a ball on his hitch. As long as he doesn't 'hit' the curb, and uses a ramp of
some kind, he won't have a problem.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 7/30/2013 5:40 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:04:07 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/30/2013 2:12 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:41:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.


I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.

Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump,
that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The
technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to
get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would
guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as
good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick
every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge
incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that
change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow.
To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get
a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars,
flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby.

The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with
a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.
Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.

John (Gun Nut) H.


All I am saying is opposing inclines at the radius of the turn, creates
a lot of problems putting the tow vehicle and load, on different
planes... Tends to buckle the rig...

That's why there's a ball on his hitch. As long as he doesn't 'hit' the curb, and uses a ramp of
some kind, he won't have a problem.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Ok... so you have never had to do it... I get it. But trust me, it's not
a smooth line once the trailer and tow rig get too far off relative
planes...

On 7/30/2013 3:00 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:12:22 UTC-3, John H wrote:


The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with

a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.

Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Looks like I have to straighten y'all out yet again..
I have never backed up over the curb. If someone was across the street , limiting maneuvering room, I'd just park the rig on the street until they left.
I have run over the curb a couple times 'exiting' my driveway due to tight conditions.


Imagine the problems you'd have if you had a full sized boat. You really
should consider a storage yard.