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On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:18:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: Ok... so you have never had to do it... I get it. But trust me, it's not a smooth line once the trailer and tow rig get too far off relative planes... === Mathematically speaking, the down slope would have the effect of increasing the turn radius so you're right about there being a transition. |
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On 7/30/2013 7:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:18:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Ok... so you have never had to do it... I get it. But trust me, it's not a smooth line once the trailer and tow rig get too far off relative planes... === Mathematically speaking, the down slope would have the effect of increasing the turn radius so you're right about there being a transition. Exactly, and in the case of the asshole from NS, the up slope transition smack dab in the middle of the radius, has the same effect....... No matter how big your rig is, it's one of those things if you don't "see" it in your head, you won't know until you try it once.. and dent the tailgate of your new truck:) |
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Hank© wrote:
On 7/29/2013 10:11 AM, True North wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:33:13 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway. === Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a bit dicey. Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have room to back it in. I can..and do on occasion. I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway. It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow. You need to widen your driveway at least 2 feet. Actually 10' is plenty. I have to back my boat and trailer in to a 10' wide costco storage tent. Truck is a crew cab short bed, and the boat and trailer are about 25' long. Is an about 20' wide drive between the storage rows. With a turn in to the structure. Practice in a big parking lot with cones to mark out the path. Or install a front hitch on the highlander. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/29/13 9:33 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway. === Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a bit dicey. Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have room to back it in. It's a lot easier to pull a boat on a trailer straight out of a tight parking space than it is to back that boat on a trailer back into a tight parking space. I'm not familiar with the width or conditions of Don's driveway and neither are you, and there may be circumstances that make it more difficult than you surmise. Perhaps on one of your next cruises to places you've been a million times, you can expand that voyage up to Nova Scotia, have Don meet you at a local marina, and then show him how perfectly you can back up his rig in his driveway. Make sure someone videotapes it. There are people who can back trailers and then there those who are probably bad drivers also. |
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On 7/30/2013 11:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote: On 7/29/2013 10:11 AM, True North wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:33:13 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway. === Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a bit dicey. Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have room to back it in. I can..and do on occasion. I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway. It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow. You need to widen your driveway at least 2 feet. Actually 10' is plenty. Not according to Donnie. |
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On 7/30/13 6:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/30/2013 5:40 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:04:07 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/30/2013 2:12 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:41:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have room to back it in. I can..and do on occasion. I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway. It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow. === You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can see them in your mirrors. I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone. Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently. Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick. John (Gun Nut) H. I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump, that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow. To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars, flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby. The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb. Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb. John (Gun Nut) H. All I am saying is opposing inclines at the radius of the turn, creates a lot of problems putting the tow vehicle and load, on different planes... Tends to buckle the rig... That's why there's a ball on his hitch. As long as he doesn't 'hit' the curb, and uses a ramp of some kind, he won't have a problem. John (Gun Nut) H. Ok... so you have never had to do it... I get it. But trust me, it's not a smooth line once the trailer and tow rig get too far off relative planes... Herring's got a double wide concrete driveway with nothing to bang into on either side, so backing up a trailer is a no brainer, which is fortunate for Herring, since he is a no-brainer. Here's Herring's driveway. No, I didn't take the photo...google maps did: http://tinyurl.com/kwfjm7l The big truck shows there is plenty of room there. |
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What the 'ell?
Can't tell how wide the street is but I could probably back an 18 wheeler up there.... although I might scrape the bush that hides his mailbox. |
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