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If a DIY guy buys all listed equipment, gets engineering for the panel
installation, pulls permits and has everything inspected, he still
will not get the 30% federal tax credit or the state rebate because he
needs a licensed installer according to the law. What part of that is
too hard for you to comprehend?

No, you talking about "law" that doesn't exist is too
damn stupid to comment much more on.
Quit conflating fed and state laws too. That ****
doesn't work with me. I'm talking federal.
Why are you still talking about a state rebate law when
that rebate well is dry?


Can you trick the IRS into allowing the credit? Probably, but if you
get audited, you will lose.

Bull****. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Just keep your receipts, and make sure you don't use a
junk manufacturer that won't provide a manufacturer's tax
credit certificate. Keep that too.
If you're honest you won't lose an audit.
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Tax-Credits-Available-for-
Certain-Energy-Efficient-Home-Improvements
This stuff is years old already.
If you're having issues with DIY, blame it on Florida.

The state rebate, when there was one, had to be applied for by the
contractor and you got the check. Unfortunately these programs went
broke and there are thousands of people waiting for millions of
dollars worth of checks ... that are not coming.

Take that up with your state. If you don't like it
there, you've got the option to move.

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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:11:31 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


Can you trick the IRS into allowing the credit? Probably, but if you
get audited, you will lose.

Bull****. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Just keep your receipts, and make sure you don't use a
junk manufacturer that won't provide a manufacturer's tax
credit certificate. Keep that too.
If you're honest you won't lose an audit.
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Tax-Credits-Available-for-
Certain-Energy-Efficient-Home-Improvements
This stuff is years old already.
If you're having issues with DIY, blame it on Florida.

You ignored this part

Not all energy-efficient improvements qualify so be sure you have the
manufacturer?s tax credit certification statement, which can usually
be found on the manufacturer?s website or with the product packaging.


What the hell are you talking about? I mentioned the
certificate above.

That statement generally only comes with a professional installed
system..

More bull****. The certificates are based on
manufacturers product line or part numbers.
Here.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2009-19_IRB/ar08.html
I also said above don't use junk.
Any reputable manufacturer will provide the certification
with the product, or downloadable.
All you need is a receipt to match.
Here.
http://blog.gogreensolar.com/2012/10...al-tax-credit-
for-residential-pv.html

I can't understand why you crow about how easy it is for
you to DIY a solar power system to the public grid with
off-the-shelf gear, but can't figure out how to do get
the certificate for gear you paid for, and how to do the
taxes.

Seems you just like to constantly whine about the fed gov
incentive program, even when it provides tax benefits to
encourage solar.
You ignore plain facts so you can keep whining.
Blame the feds for Florida's shortcomings.
Then you whine when a business might get a buck from you.
It's only all good when you get the buck from somebody
else.

Only thing I can suspect - besides your utter
penuriousness - is that you're bitter about Florida
laws/regulations/incentives, which are totally ****ed up
regarding solar power.
Pretty funny, given it's the "Sunshine State."
They should be leading the nation with solar.

But hell no.
http://www.earthtechling.com/2013/07/some-states-lead-
in-solar-power-by-example/
Looks like Florida ranks about 20th with solar power.
The "Sunshine State."

Florida should be ashamed of itself.
And as a Florida resident you should be ashamed for
allowing this to happen in the "Sunshine State."
Who the hell is in charge there?
You're lucky Florida does well with nuke power.
Was that your idea?


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You did everything but show us where you get this certificate.

Somebody may have one but when I was looking for it for my pool
collectors, it was unavailable except from a licensed installer.

Just stop with the deceit. We were talking about federal
tax credits for residential solar electrical power.
You already forgot your claim of "could just plug it into
a wall outlet if the gov, licensed intallers and
electricians weren't screwing me?"

Solar heating a swimming pool or hot tub NEVER qualified
for the federal tax credit.

So you manage 2 misdirections, or lies, or maybe simple
paranoid fantasies,in one sentence.

1. You looking for something that doesn't exist.
2. A "licensed installer" providing something that
doesn't exist.

Adds up to troll, or you not being as smart as you think
you are, or paranoia.
Whatever it is, as TJ sang, "It's Not Unusual."
I tend to think you're just trolling, and I'm playing.