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JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 27th 13 05:24 PM

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On 7/27/2013 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:33:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/27/13 10:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:35:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Jails are overcrowded with the majority of inmates being
black.

===

Why is that?

Because blacks commit the majority of the crimes, why?


Properly stated, a majority of the blacks in prisons didn't have the
resources to hire a competent criminal attorney and ended up with a
"deal" made between the prosecutor and underpaid and understaffed public
defenders' offices. Had they been able to hire competent counsel, many
likely would have ended up with the same sort of outcome as whites with
private lawyers, which, at the minimum, would have meant shorter sentences.

There also have been recent statistical analyses showing that black
defendants and white defendants who are convicted of similar crimes draw
different sentences. Guess which color skin gets the longer terms.

And no, I am not going to provide cites. If you are interested, the info
is easy enough to find. It's not worth the effort to try to enlighten
the intellectually lazy here.


When you look at the New Haven incident and the lack of people willing
to testify it does make you wonder how many crimes are never
investigated or charged in that community.

Many years ago (late 70s early 80s) a guy I knew in the DC police
department was sent down to 300 Indiana avenue to crunch numbers. He
figured out only one in 260 armed robberies ended with a charge.
They told him to keep that to himself. There was an article in the
Post from his work and you could get to that number by extrapolating
the statistics they cited but it was not specifically stated.

In a lot of cases like this the cops know who did the crimes but they
just can't get any testimony to actually get a conviction so they just
wait until they can catch the guy red handed and they throw the book
at him. These guys still get a fraction of the jail time that their
actual crimes would deserve. Certainly there are people caught up in
the system who do not deserve all they get but it is usually the other
way. That is simply the result of the fear the really bad guys instill
in the citizens of their community.

The guys who need jail time the most are the ones the police are least
likely to get testimony against. Until they find a way to get around
that problem, they will never get those neighborhoods back. The
criminals own them.


Don't listen to harry and his "google".. I am down there all the time
and harry wouldn't drive downtown on Goffe st, any more than he would
step out of his car between the train and police station (in New Haven),
about a block apart... LOL!

iBoaterer[_3_] July 27th 13 05:32 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 7/27/2013 11:55 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:33:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/27/13 10:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:35:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Jails are overcrowded with the majority of inmates being
black.

===

Why is that?

Because blacks commit the majority of the crimes, why?


Properly stated, a majority of the blacks in prisons didn't have the
resources to hire a competent criminal attorney and ended up with a
"deal" made between the prosecutor and underpaid and understaffed public
defenders' offices. Had they been able to hire competent counsel, many
likely would have ended up with the same sort of outcome as whites with
private lawyers, which, at the minimum, would have meant shorter sentences.

There also have been recent statistical analyses showing that black
defendants and white defendants who are convicted of similar crimes draw
different sentences. Guess which color skin gets the longer terms.

And no, I am not going to provide cites. If you are interested, the info
is easy enough to find. It's not worth the effort to try to enlighten
the intellectually lazy here.


When you look at the New Haven incident and the lack of people willing
to testify it does make you wonder how many crimes are never
investigated or charged in that community.

Many years ago (late 70s early 80s) a guy I knew in the DC police
department was sent down to 300 Indiana avenue to crunch numbers. He
figured out only one in 260 armed robberies ended with a charge.
They told him to keep that to himself. There was an article in the
Post from his work and you could get to that number by extrapolating
the statistics they cited but it was not specifically stated.

In a lot of cases like this the cops know who did the crimes but they
just can't get any testimony to actually get a conviction so they just
wait until they can catch the guy red handed and they throw the book
at him. These guys still get a fraction of the jail time that their
actual crimes would deserve. Certainly there are people caught up in
the system who do not deserve all they get but it is usually the other
way. That is simply the result of the fear the really bad guys instill
in the citizens of their community.

The guys who need jail time the most are the ones the police are least
likely to get testimony against. Until they find a way to get around
that problem, they will never get those neighborhoods back. The
criminals own them.


Don't listen to harry and his "google".. I am down there all the time
and harry wouldn't drive downtown on Goffe st, any more than he would
step out of his car between the train and police station (in New Haven),
about a block apart... LOL!


Well, when you first posted this **** you claimed that it was a bunch of
Treyvon Martin protesters who did it. Please tell us about that!

F.O.A.D. July 27th 13 06:24 PM

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On 7/27/13 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:33:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/27/13 10:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:35:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Jails are overcrowded with the majority of inmates being
black.

===

Why is that?

Because blacks commit the majority of the crimes, why?


Properly stated, a majority of the blacks in prisons didn't have the
resources to hire a competent criminal attorney and ended up with a
"deal" made between the prosecutor and underpaid and understaffed public
defenders' offices. Had they been able to hire competent counsel, many
likely would have ended up with the same sort of outcome as whites with
private lawyers, which, at the minimum, would have meant shorter sentences.

There also have been recent statistical analyses showing that black
defendants and white defendants who are convicted of similar crimes draw
different sentences. Guess which color skin gets the longer terms.

And no, I am not going to provide cites. If you are interested, the info
is easy enough to find. It's not worth the effort to try to enlighten
the intellectually lazy here.


When you look at the New Haven incident and the lack of people willing
to testify it does make you wonder how many crimes are never
investigated or charged in that community.


You haven't looked at the New Haven incident, you missed the reports
about the conflicting witness reports, and you have no idea whether
anyone has talked to the police about the identity of possible
perpetrators.

F.O.A.D. July 27th 13 06:24 PM

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On 7/27/13 12:24 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/27/2013 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:33:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/27/13 10:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:35:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Jails are overcrowded with the majority of inmates being
black.

===

Why is that?

Because blacks commit the majority of the crimes, why?


Properly stated, a majority of the blacks in prisons didn't have the
resources to hire a competent criminal attorney and ended up with a
"deal" made between the prosecutor and underpaid and understaffed public
defenders' offices. Had they been able to hire competent counsel, many
likely would have ended up with the same sort of outcome as whites with
private lawyers, which, at the minimum, would have meant shorter
sentences.

There also have been recent statistical analyses showing that black
defendants and white defendants who are convicted of similar crimes draw
different sentences. Guess which color skin gets the longer terms.

And no, I am not going to provide cites. If you are interested, the info
is easy enough to find. It's not worth the effort to try to enlighten
the intellectually lazy here.


When you look at the New Haven incident and the lack of people willing
to testify it does make you wonder how many crimes are never
investigated or charged in that community.

Many years ago (late 70s early 80s) a guy I knew in the DC police
department was sent down to 300 Indiana avenue to crunch numbers. He
figured out only one in 260 armed robberies ended with a charge.
They told him to keep that to himself. There was an article in the
Post from his work and you could get to that number by extrapolating
the statistics they cited but it was not specifically stated.

In a lot of cases like this the cops know who did the crimes but they
just can't get any testimony to actually get a conviction so they just
wait until they can catch the guy red handed and they throw the book
at him. These guys still get a fraction of the jail time that their
actual crimes would deserve. Certainly there are people caught up in
the system who do not deserve all they get but it is usually the other
way. That is simply the result of the fear the really bad guys instill
in the citizens of their community.

The guys who need jail time the most are the ones the police are least
likely to get testimony against. Until they find a way to get around
that problem, they will never get those neighborhoods back. The
criminals own them.


Don't listen to harry and his "google".. I am down there all the time
and harry wouldn't drive downtown on Goffe st, any more than he would
step out of his car between the train and police station (in New Haven),
about a block apart... LOL!



Goffe Street isn't "downtown," moron.

F.O.A.D. July 27th 13 06:44 PM

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On 7/27/13 12:24 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/27/2013 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:33:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/27/13 10:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:35:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Jails are overcrowded with the majority of inmates being
black.

===

Why is that?

Because blacks commit the majority of the crimes, why?


Properly stated, a majority of the blacks in prisons didn't have the
resources to hire a competent criminal attorney and ended up with a
"deal" made between the prosecutor and underpaid and understaffed public
defenders' offices. Had they been able to hire competent counsel, many
likely would have ended up with the same sort of outcome as whites with
private lawyers, which, at the minimum, would have meant shorter
sentences.

There also have been recent statistical analyses showing that black
defendants and white defendants who are convicted of similar crimes draw
different sentences. Guess which color skin gets the longer terms.

And no, I am not going to provide cites. If you are interested, the info
is easy enough to find. It's not worth the effort to try to enlighten
the intellectually lazy here.


When you look at the New Haven incident and the lack of people willing
to testify it does make you wonder how many crimes are never
investigated or charged in that community.

Many years ago (late 70s early 80s) a guy I knew in the DC police
department was sent down to 300 Indiana avenue to crunch numbers. He
figured out only one in 260 armed robberies ended with a charge.
They told him to keep that to himself. There was an article in the
Post from his work and you could get to that number by extrapolating
the statistics they cited but it was not specifically stated.

In a lot of cases like this the cops know who did the crimes but they
just can't get any testimony to actually get a conviction so they just
wait until they can catch the guy red handed and they throw the book
at him. These guys still get a fraction of the jail time that their
actual crimes would deserve. Certainly there are people caught up in
the system who do not deserve all they get but it is usually the other
way. That is simply the result of the fear the really bad guys instill
in the citizens of their community.

The guys who need jail time the most are the ones the police are least
likely to get testimony against. Until they find a way to get around
that problem, they will never get those neighborhoods back. The
criminals own them.


Don't listen to harry and his "google".. I am down there all the time
and harry wouldn't drive downtown on Goffe st, any more than he would
step out of his car between the train and police station (in New Haven),
about a block apart... LOL!


There is no police station a block away from the train station, moron,
nor is it two blocks away, or three blocks away. The closest police
station is in the Hill neighborhood, about a mile away.

Oh, the last time I was in New Haven, not so long ago, I drove from the
station along Union Avenue to Water Street, and to the location where my
father had his first boat and motorcycle store in the 1940s. There's a
little coffee shop near the site now. Got out and walked around.

I'm not an obstreperous little pussy like you, PsychoSnotty.

[email protected] July 27th 13 06:44 PM

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On Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:24:35 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/27/13 8:27 AM, wrote:

On Friday, July 26, 2013 8:57:23 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...








On 7/26/13 8:11 PM,
wrote:







It's amazing what peeps can get away with when the community at


large agrees with what they are doing. "I didn't see nothing".






Same thing you say happens in Florida.
















Interesting that you would come to that conclusion, since I was merely




speculating on what happened in New Haven, and you think the community




around there agrees with assault and theft or robbery.








Why not just come out and say it, Jack Goff? You're a white, racist




p.o.s.








-----------------------------------------








The picture I saw showed the victim sitting on the road, blood




everywhere, and two or three black females near him who appeared to




be coming to his aid. Just guessing, but that's what it looks like.




My statement had nothing to do with the pic. Middle of the day, busy area, traffic and shops with people, and the police can't seem to get a straight story from anyone on what they saw. The news story stated that.




harry said he doesn't travel in that area. "I don't drive on that part of Goffe Street." That's how bad it is, bad area, bad people. They are covering for the perps, or are afraid to say.




"I didn't see nothing." BS








Actually, thanks to Google, I took a video tour of that part of Goffe

Street from my old high school to downtown, and I see that it has been

extensively redeveloped in the decades since I left New Haven. I

wouldn't have the slightest hesitancy driving down Goffe Street now, and

I will do so on one of my upcoming trips this year to New Haven.



Just checked crime stats, state by state. South Carolina is much, much

more dangerous than Connecticut.


And SC is in a virtual tie with Maryland, with Maryland having a higher murder rate.

Califbill July 28th 13 06:24 AM

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/26/13 8:11 PM, wrote:
On Friday, July 26, 2013 5:44:40 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/26/13 4:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:





"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

...



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater





---------------------------------------



There are several newspaper accounts of this. Some claim he was

beaten. Some claim he may have been hit by a car.

Apparently there are no eye-witnesses, so nobody knows for sure.



But you know what is a little strange? The victim has been identified

as Brooks MacQuarrie. He works at New Haven Power Sports.

This happened last Friday, which would be the 19th.



He has a Facebook page which I found, thinking there might be more

information available as to what really happened.



Nope.



In fact, there are no references to it at all and MacQuarrie has updated

his page *since* the event .... during this week.



Doesn't really mean anything but I thought that for a guy who has so

many serious injuries that no mention of them have been made on his FB

page was a little unusual.







Hard to believe there are no witnesses, since that part of Goffe Street

has housing, small businesses, lots of pedestrian traffic. Even the

Shell station where I worked part time one semester after high school

was over for the day is still there, amazingly, though the building has

been redone into a convenience store.


It's amazing what peeps can get away with when the community at large
agrees with what they are doing. "I didn't see nothing".

Same thing you say happens in Florida.



Interesting that you would come to that conclusion, since I was merely
speculating on what happened in New Haven, and you think the community
around there agrees with assault and theft or robbery.

Why not just come out and say it, Jack Goff? You're a white, racist p.o.s.


They must agree with the criminal behavior. Rarely any witness to the
hundreds of murders in Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit .

F.O.A.D. July 28th 13 12:04 PM

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On 7/28/13 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/26/13 8:11 PM, wrote:
On Friday, July 26, 2013 5:44:40 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/26/13 4:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:





"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

...



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater





---------------------------------------



There are several newspaper accounts of this. Some claim he was

beaten. Some claim he may have been hit by a car.

Apparently there are no eye-witnesses, so nobody knows for sure.



But you know what is a little strange? The victim has been identified

as Brooks MacQuarrie. He works at New Haven Power Sports.

This happened last Friday, which would be the 19th.



He has a Facebook page which I found, thinking there might be more

information available as to what really happened.



Nope.



In fact, there are no references to it at all and MacQuarrie has updated

his page *since* the event .... during this week.



Doesn't really mean anything but I thought that for a guy who has so

many serious injuries that no mention of them have been made on his FB

page was a little unusual.







Hard to believe there are no witnesses, since that part of Goffe Street

has housing, small businesses, lots of pedestrian traffic. Even the

Shell station where I worked part time one semester after high school

was over for the day is still there, amazingly, though the building has

been redone into a convenience store.

It's amazing what peeps can get away with when the community at large
agrees with what they are doing. "I didn't see nothing".

Same thing you say happens in Florida.



Interesting that you would come to that conclusion, since I was merely
speculating on what happened in New Haven, and you think the community
around there agrees with assault and theft or robbery.

Why not just come out and say it, Jack Goff? You're a white, racist p.o.s.


They must agree with the criminal behavior. Rarely any witness to the
hundreds of murders in Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit .


My guess is that there rarely are eyewitnesses to murders who testify at
trials anywhere in this country, so, using your logic, that must mean
that everyone must agree with that sort of criminal behavior, right?

[email protected] July 28th 13 01:02 PM

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On Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:04:27 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/28/13 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote:

They must agree with the criminal behavior. Rarely any witness to the
hundreds of murders in Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit .



My guess is that there rarely are eyewitnesses to murders who testify at
trials anywhere in this country, so, using your logic, that must mean
that everyone must agree with that sort of criminal behavior, right?


Your guess would be wrong. When there are witnesses, they typically testify. On that crowded street in your old home town, there were witnesses. According to the news reports, they told wildly varying stories about what happened.

You aren't really that naive, are you? That *is* your liberal voting base, so you'll protect them at all cost, eh?

F.O.A.D. July 28th 13 01:43 PM

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On 7/28/13 8:02 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:04:27 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/28/13 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote:

They must agree with the criminal behavior. Rarely any witness to the
hundreds of murders in Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit .



My guess is that there rarely are eyewitnesses to murders who testify at
trials anywhere in this country, so, using your logic, that must mean
that everyone must agree with that sort of criminal behavior, right?


Your guess would be wrong. When there are witnesses, they typically testify. On that crowded street in your old home town, there were witnesses. According to the news reports, they told wildly varying stories about what happened.

You aren't really that naive, are you? That *is* your liberal voting base, so you'll protect them at all cost, eh?



1. There rarely are eyewitnesses to murders.
2. Therefore, there rarely are eyewitnesses to murders who testify at
trials.
3. The incident in New Haven was not a murder.
4. It is not unusual for witnesses to report different versions of what
they witnessed.
5. I have no knowledge of whether the witnesses were liberal,
conservative, or, most likely, apolitical, and, of course, neither do you.

Until it began to go whack-o in the 1980s, the Republican Party was
reasonably successful in Connecticut and elsewhere in New England, and
even in New York State. When I was in high school and my mother was a
minor functionary in the city GOP, I actually was a volunteer worker for
the re-election of a Republican congressman, and spent a number of
Saturdays in GOTV activities. Of course, he wasn't a latter-day
Republican whack-o.


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