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F.O.A.D. July 20th 13 08:13 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On 7/20/13 2:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.

There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.


Yeah, we attacked ourselves in Pearl Harbor and ran our blitzkriegs in Europe.


Japan was forced in to war with the USA. We embargoed all oil from them.
They were already in a nasty war in China, but FDR forced them to war with
us. We violated lots of the neutrality rules in helping Europe/Russia.



Thank you for your entertaining revisionism.

The reality is that the Japanese were planning major military actions
in Southeast Asia against overseas territories of the Netherlands, the
United States and the United Kingdom. At the same time the Japanese were
going after Pearl Harbor, they attacked Malaya, Singapore, and Hong
Kong. The Japanese captured all three about two months after they bombed
Pearl Harbor.



iBoaterer[_3_] July 20th 13 08:51 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:08:32 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:19 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


A lot of talk was raised about a depraved mind.
In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.
At that moment, who had the depraved mind?
Who was in mortal fear?
That is the definition of self defense.

Yes, Martin was self defending himself, true enough.

The first punch was self defense (perhaps)
The continued beating after the threat was abated was aggravated
assault. That is the danger of defending yourself with your fists.
You are required by law to stop as soon as you are no longer
threatened.


As long as Zimmerman was still trying to get to his gun, or get up, or
such, the threat is still there.


Where is the evidence of any of that?
You are making **** up again.


I'm making **** up?? YOU wrote a whole paragraph above that is not
shrouded in one bit of evidence!!!

You had the due process you wanted, the state lost, get over it.




iBoaterer[_3_] July 20th 13 08:52 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/20/13 12:09 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 7/20/2013 11:32 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 07:45:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 1:24 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:19:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


A terrorist makes war upon civilians. Cheney qualifies as a terrorist.

By that definition the biggest terrorists in history are FDR, Truman
and Winston Churchill.
We talk a lot about the nukes but daytime fire bombing of cities
killed far more civilians.


Nice try defending CheneySlime.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


How many children have been killed and maimed in Chicago since the start
of Jessi Jackson's war?


WHAT the **** is "Jessi Jackson's war?" That jawbone giving you trouble
again today?



Actually, it is *Jesse* Jackson, not *Jessi* Jackson. I think Jessi is a
shortened version of Jessica. Snotty is confused about genders...what a
surprise.


I know this.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 20th 13 08:52 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/20/2013 12:46 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/20/2013 12:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:09 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 7/20/2013 11:32 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 07:45:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 1:24 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:19:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


A terrorist makes war upon civilians. Cheney qualifies as a
terrorist.

By that definition the biggest terrorists in history are FDR, Truman
and Winston Churchill.
We talk a lot about the nukes but daytime fire bombing of cities
killed far more civilians.


Nice try defending CheneySlime.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


How many children have been killed and maimed in Chicago since the
start
of Jessi Jackson's war?

WHAT the **** is "Jessi Jackson's war?" That jawbone giving you trouble
again today?



Actually, it is *Jesse* Jackson, not *Jessi* Jackson. I think Jessi is a
shortened version of Jessica. Snotty is confused about genders...what a
surprise.


Jesse Jackson-Jesse James I think I can remember it now.


He didn't want to answer the question... no problem...


You didn't ask a question, idiot! Or was it your jawbone making you say
that?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 20th 13 08:54 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.


There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.

"I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and
again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars."
- FDR, Speech in Boston, October 30, 1940.
Violations of the neutrality pledge. The blockade of Japan etc

Cheney and his
neocon crowd lied us into wars with Iraq and Afghanistan. And please,
let's not have that unfrosted yellowcake again, eh? It was all bull****
so the Bush Admin could say it had a serious response to 9-11.


Why did Clinton continue to prosecute the war against Iraq for the
entire 8 years he was in office? Was it WMD or was it just to defend
Israel?
The invasion was simply the logical conclusion to the 10 years we
waged war on Iraq. It was only a question of when. Clinton was
threatening ground attack for most of the time he was in office.

For the record, I would not have even got involved in Kuwait because
we did not have a viable exit plan. We were just propping up one of
those dictatorships you seem to hate.
Powell did have the right idea in 1991 but we did not make the clean
break he wanted, Everything else was just the logical end of staying
in there. In the end, he was the cheerleader for the invasion.


Incredible........ Stick up for Cheney till the bitter end!

iBoaterer[_3_] July 20th 13 08:56 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
In article 1604542971396039361.912401bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:21 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.

There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.


Yeah, we attacked ourselves in Pearl Harbor and ran our blitzkriegs in Europe.


Japan was forced in to war with the USA. We embargoed all oil from them.
They were already in a nasty war in China, but FDR forced them to war with
us. We violated lots of the neutrality rules in helping Europe/Russia.


There were/was other avenues to resolution than war. They weren't
"forced" into war, that's the approach they CHOSE.

Califbill July 20th 13 11:24 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1604542971396039361.912401bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:21 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.

There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.

Yeah, we attacked ourselves in Pearl Harbor and ran our blitzkriegs in Europe.


Japan was forced in to war with the USA. We embargoed all oil from them.
They were already in a nasty war in China, but FDR forced them to war with
us. We violated lots of the neutrality rules in helping Europe/Russia.


There were/was other avenues to resolution than war. They weren't
"forced" into war, that's the approach they CHOSE.


They were forced in to war with us!

Califbill July 20th 13 11:24 PM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 2:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.

There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.

Yeah, we attacked ourselves in Pearl Harbor and ran our blitzkriegs in Europe.


Japan was forced in to war with the USA. We embargoed all oil from them.
They were already in a nasty war in China, but FDR forced them to war with
us. We violated lots of the neutrality rules in helping Europe/Russia.



Thank you for your entertaining revisionism.

The reality is that the Japanese were planning major military actions in
Southeast Asia against overseas territories of the Netherlands, the
United States and the United Kingdom. At the same time the Japanese were
going after Pearl Harbor, they attacked Malaya, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
The Japanese captured all three about two months after they bombed Pearl Harbor.


Yup. But we were supposedly neutral. Which FDR did not want. He knew if
we did what he planned, we would have to be drawn in to the war actively.
We were going to be in the war anyway, but FDR made sure. Nothing right
wing about it. Is the facts of history.

F.O.A.D. July 21st 13 12:33 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On 7/20/13 6:24 PM, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1604542971396039361.912401bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:21 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:39:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 11:32 AM,
wrote:
e.

Thanks,
It is accurate ... or do you think we didn't kill millions of
civilians in the "good war".

I am not really defending Cheney, only pointing out he did what we do
when we engage in wars.

How many civilians do you figure we killed when we were enforcing
Clinton's "no fly zones". The Iraqis say it approached 50,000, we say
it was 10% of that, still a big number.


FDR, Truman and Churchill did not lie us into WW II.

There were plenty of lies in the run up to WWII.

Yeah, we attacked ourselves in Pearl Harbor and ran our blitzkriegs in Europe.

Japan was forced in to war with the USA. We embargoed all oil from them.
They were already in a nasty war in China, but FDR forced them to war with
us. We violated lots of the neutrality rules in helping Europe/Russia.


There were/was other avenues to resolution than war. They weren't
"forced" into war, that's the approach they CHOSE.


They were forced in to war with us!


No one in the U.S. government forced the Japanese to attack Pearl
Harbor. Further, Japan attacked while it was engaged in negotiations
with us. No one in our government forced that on the Japanese, either.

[email protected] July 21st 13 01:48 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:34:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/20/13 5:38 PM, wrote:

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:49:32 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:



The black racists have embraced the incident quite readily, yes?


Not as readily as the white racists on rec.boats.


There are what... five that you consider white racists here? There are 100's of thousands, perhaps millions out there that are black racists.

The world is larger than your rec.boats basement domain.

F.O.A.D. July 21st 13 02:09 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On 7/20/13 8:48 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:34:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/20/13 5:38 PM,
wrote:

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:49:32 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:



The black racists have embraced the incident quite readily, yes?


Not as readily as the white racists on rec.boats.


There are what... five that you consider white racists here? There are 100's of thousands, perhaps millions out there that are black racists.



Right, because you say so, and they are all targeting you, right?

[email protected] July 21st 13 02:13 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:09:00 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/20/13 8:48 PM, wrote:

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:34:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 7/20/13 5:38 PM,
wrote:



On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:49:32 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:






The black racists have embraced the incident quite readily, yes?




Not as readily as the white racists on rec.boats.




There are what... five that you consider white racists here? There are 100's of thousands, perhaps millions out there that are black racists.



Right, because you say so, and they are all targeting you, right?


Not at all. The news reports of the protest show the numbers. And they aren't "targeting" me, as I haven't done anything to be targeted for. Hell, I don't even have a CWP, unlike you.

Califbill July 21st 13 08:16 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this...
 
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:46:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 12:53 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:59:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

See what differently? Clinton didn't lie us into ground wars with Iraq

So now we are defining "war" as troops on the ground?

I bet the people under the bombs think they are in a war.



Yeah, I see war pretty much as troops on the ground.


So we were not at war in Europe until 6/6/44?

You are in denial.

Cheney is a weasel but he did not prosecute this 20 year war all on
his own.


We invaded Italy in Sept. 43. Clinton was waging war in Iraq with the
bombings. Somalia was another Clinton disaster. Why did we have to be the
ones in Bosnia. Seems as if that was a European problem and sphere of
influence region.

F.O.A.D. July 21st 13 11:54 AM

I'd bet it wasn't a liberal that did this.....
 
On 7/20/13 11:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:46:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 12:53 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:59:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

See what differently? Clinton didn't lie us into ground wars with Iraq

So now we are defining "war" as troops on the ground?

I bet the people under the bombs think they are in a war.



Yeah, I see war pretty much as troops on the ground.


So we were not at war in Europe until 6/6/44?

You are in denial.

Cheney is a weasel but he did not prosecute this 20 year war all on
his own.


Your revisionist history is laughable. We were at war with Japan in
December, 1941, and landed troops in Africa and Italy in 1942-43. That
we didn't land troops in France until 1944 is not relevant to the fact
that we were at war on several fronts.

Save your silly hair splitting for iloogy.


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