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On 7/17/2013 9:52 AM, amdx wrote:
On 7/16/2013 12:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/16/2013 1:27 PM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/16/2013 12:13 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/16/13 12:02 PM, Eisboch wrote: "Weed don't make him go crazy, it just make him go hungry." .... Rachel Jeantel acknowledging in last night's CNN interview with Piers Morgan that Martin was a pot user. I haven't seen any body of reputable scientific evidence that shows a strong connection between between smoking marijuana and violent behavior. Have you? ----------------------------------- Of course not. I agree with her. I thought it was funny as hell. Given the mood of this country, we need a little levity in our lives right now. Some of the **** that's out now is pretty strong, I have seen or at least heard of kids getting nuts on it. Not to mention if you run out, and go looking for a quick score, "pot" can make you crazy, can even make you look into cars and punch someone when they ask you why... OH, so NOW Martin was looking to score some pot and went crazy and attacked Zimmerman??? Damn, you ARE insane. ---------------------------------- There's no medical evidence that the *trace* amount of THC found in Martin's blood tests would have contributed to any kind of altered behavior, one way or the other. Yes, subjective but yes I heard the same thing. I was suggesting that "crazy" with any "drug" can go way beyond the immediate effects of the drug, and into the lifestyle of someone who needs "drugs" guns, gold teeth, and in particular, the money to live that lifestyle... However, I was not saying I had any new facts about Treyvon Martin, I was commenting on the statement by somebody that there is no credible evidence that folks get "crazy" on pot.. that it does go a bit deeper thatn just the two hour high... Sorry I was not more specific, let me be clear here I am not saying Treyvon was "crazy" based on the pot in his system, although I was suggesting that with the **** that's out now, and if you expand the term "effects", someone *could* get "crazy" on pot.... ugh........ Is there any possibility at all that Treyvon is product of his culture and as a young black male feels that society is stacked against him, causing him to to be angry and lash out at any wrong, real or not? These feelings may have a real basis but that is not a good reason not to defend yourself. I like the show Bait Car, where the police setup a car for stealing. They often have a girl driving and friend stops her with a big commotion, the car is then left parked with the keys. When one young black man was caught taking the Cadillac Escalade, he was ask why did you take it, he said " just to punish them". Meaning those rich white girls needed punishing, I wonder how wide spread this is. The show always amazes me that within minutes of parking their bait car, someone is there to steal it. What a mentality, the crooks have no moral sense. Mikek You shouldn't *ALWAYS* judge a book by its cover. I have a friend who goes to work in a suit and crisp white shirt. He wants to retire next year from his IT position and projects his pension to be just shy of 100K anum. His favorite passtimes are flying models, motorcycling, and hunting. He has a son who is in the middle officer ranks in the Army. Major, I think he said. He came from a culture that doesn't generally lead to the life he has enjoyed. |
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On 7/17/2013 10:06 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/17/13 9:49 AM, wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:27:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: But (just let me guess) you don't think Zimmerman's past troubles have anything to do with HIS character..... You are trying to compare 2 minor incidents many years ago with the spiraling down of Martin in the months before he attacked Zimmerman. Assaulting a law enforcement official and beating up your S.O. are not minor incidents. Charges like that just don't go away if they have any merit. |
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On 7/17/2013 10:31 AM, True North wrote:
... On Wednesday, 17 July 2013 10:37:21 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/16/13 3:15 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/16/2013 2:02 PM, Hank� wrote: On 7/16/2013 1:53 PM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 7/16/2013 1:27 PM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/16/2013 12:13 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/16/13 12:02 PM, Eisboch wrote: "Weed don't make him go crazy, it just make him go hungry." .... Rachel Jeantel acknowledging in last night's CNN interview with Piers Morgan that Martin was a pot user. I haven't seen any body of reputable scientific evidence that shows a strong connection between between smoking marijuana and violent behavior. Have you? ----------------------------------- Of course not. I agree with her. I thought it was funny as hell. Given the mood of this country, we need a little levity in our lives right now. Some of the **** that's out now is pretty strong, I have seen or at least heard of kids getting nuts on it. Not to mention if you run out, and go looking for a quick score, "pot" can make you crazy, can even make you look into cars and punch someone when they ask you why... OH, so NOW Martin was looking to score some pot and went crazy and attacked Zimmerman??? Damn, you ARE insane. ---------------------------------- There's no medical evidence that the *trace* amount of THC found in Martin's blood tests would have contributed to any kind of altered behavior, one way or the other. Yes, subjective but yes I heard the same thing. I was suggesting that "crazy" with any "drug" can go way beyond the immediate effects of the drug, and into the lifestyle of someone who needs "drugs" guns, gold teeth, and in particular, the money to live that lifestyle... However, I was not saying I had any new facts about Treyvon Martin, I was commenting on the statement by somebody that there is no credible evidence that folks get "crazy" on pot.. that it does go a bit deeper thatn just the two hour high... Sorry I was not more specific, let me be clear here I am not saying Treyvon was "crazy" based on the pot in his system, although I was suggesting that with the **** that's out now, and if you expand the term "effects", someone *could* get "crazy" on pot.... ugh........ ------------------------------- Take a deep breath. You can get the thought out. He got it out. You need to figure out how to put it together. ;-) Yes, it's the way I speak in person too... It has roots in several events including re-learning to speak and swallow after major reconstructive mouth and jaw surgery at about age 12. Unfortunately, every once in a while I used to run into intolerant folks who use it as a weapon against me... I do have to admit though, the last time I remember that was in High School... until now... Folks who care to hear what I say, take the time to figure it out, the rest, well, **** 'em. I get it. Your jaw bone is connected to your brain bone. ...and a flimsy connection it is.. You don't want it too rigid. You'll end up like Harry. |
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says... On 7/17/2013 10:06 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/17/13 9:49 AM, wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:27:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: But (just let me guess) you don't think Zimmerman's past troubles have anything to do with HIS character..... You are trying to compare 2 minor incidents many years ago with the spiraling down of Martin in the months before he attacked Zimmerman. Assaulting a law enforcement official and beating up your S.O. are not minor incidents. Charges like that just don't go away if they have any merit. Harry may be speaking fom personal experience. |
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On 7/17/2013 10:44 AM, BAR wrote:
In article m, says... On 7/17/2013 10:06 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/17/13 9:49 AM, wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:27:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: But (just let me guess) you don't think Zimmerman's past troubles have anything to do with HIS character..... You are trying to compare 2 minor incidents many years ago with the spiraling down of Martin in the months before he attacked Zimmerman. Assaulting a law enforcement official and beating up your S.O. are not minor incidents. Charges like that just don't go away if they have any merit. Harry may be speaking fom personal experience. I don't know, maybe. |
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On 7/17/2013 9:15 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/17/2013 9:52 AM, amdx wrote: On 7/16/2013 12:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/16/2013 1:27 PM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/16/2013 12:13 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/16/13 12:02 PM, Eisboch wrote: "Weed don't make him go crazy, it just make him go hungry." .... Rachel Jeantel acknowledging in last night's CNN interview with Piers Morgan that Martin was a pot user. I haven't seen any body of reputable scientific evidence that shows a strong connection between between smoking marijuana and violent behavior. Have you? ----------------------------------- Of course not. I agree with her. I thought it was funny as hell. Given the mood of this country, we need a little levity in our lives right now. Some of the **** that's out now is pretty strong, I have seen or at least heard of kids getting nuts on it. Not to mention if you run out, and go looking for a quick score, "pot" can make you crazy, can even make you look into cars and punch someone when they ask you why... OH, so NOW Martin was looking to score some pot and went crazy and attacked Zimmerman??? Damn, you ARE insane. ---------------------------------- There's no medical evidence that the *trace* amount of THC found in Martin's blood tests would have contributed to any kind of altered behavior, one way or the other. Yes, subjective but yes I heard the same thing. I was suggesting that "crazy" with any "drug" can go way beyond the immediate effects of the drug, and into the lifestyle of someone who needs "drugs" guns, gold teeth, and in particular, the money to live that lifestyle... However, I was not saying I had any new facts about Treyvon Martin, I was commenting on the statement by somebody that there is no credible evidence that folks get "crazy" on pot.. that it does go a bit deeper thatn just the two hour high... Sorry I was not more specific, let me be clear here I am not saying Treyvon was "crazy" based on the pot in his system, although I was suggesting that with the **** that's out now, and if you expand the term "effects", someone *could* get "crazy" on pot.... ugh........ Is there any possibility at all that Treyvon is product of his culture and as a young black male feels that society is stacked against him, causing him to to be angry and lash out at any wrong, real or not? These feelings may have a real basis but that is not a good reason not to defend yourself. I like the show Bait Car, where the police setup a car for stealing. They often have a girl driving and friend stops her with a big commotion, the car is then left parked with the keys. When one young black man was caught taking the Cadillac Escalade, he was ask why did you take it, he said " just to punish them". Meaning those rich white girls needed punishing, I wonder how wide spread this is. The show always amazes me that within minutes of parking their bait car, someone is there to steal it. What a mentality, the crooks have no moral sense. Mikek You shouldn't *ALWAYS* judge a book by its cover. I have a friend who goes to work in a suit and crisp white shirt. He wants to retire next year from his IT position and projects his pension to be just shy of 100K anum. His favorite passtimes are flying models, motorcycling, and hunting. He has a son who is in the middle officer ranks in the Army. Major, I think he said. He came from a culture that doesn't generally lead to the life he has enjoyed. I fully understand that, I only ask "is it possible" judging by the protests many don't think so. And I'm happy your friend saved and invested for his future. Are there any angry black males left? Is if possible Treyvon was one? Again, there is some basis for their anger, but that doesn't mean Zimmerman should be found guilty. Mikek Mikek |
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