My take
 

On 7/16/13 12:22 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/16/2013 10:39 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:10:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Here's my take on the Zimmerman/Martin thing.

Zimmerman is a well intentioned law enforcement wannabe civilian who
overstepped the boundaries of the recommended procedures established
in the "Neighborhood Crime Watch" organizational structure,
established in concert with the local police department. What he
did was not illegal, but was contrary to recommended procedure
recommended by the Neighborhood Crime Watch representative from the
police department. (She is also a civilian and not a cop).

Really doesn't matter when he left his car or if he "followed" Martin.
Both actions are not illegal.

When he confronted Martin, some words were exchanged. Martin then
clobbered Zimmerman with a haymaker to the nose.

Zimmerman fell to the ground, Martin jumped on top of him and either
threw some more punches and/or started smacking Zimmerman's head on
the concrete.

Zimmerman tried to resist and started screaming for help.

The beating continued. Zimmerman found his gun and shot
Martin.

Martin fell backwards and then onto the ground.

That's it.

The rest of the bull**** being promoted in the media with regard to
race issues, hate crime, etc., is nothing but that ..... pure
bull****.



Supported by evidence, and probably what the jury saw also. Don't know about the falling backwards
though.

John (Gun Nut) H.


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

Oh, so now anyone who doesn't conform to your idea of right and good can
be killed without ramification?


Snotty is more of a "thug" than Martin was.

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On 7/16/13 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:54 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"These assholes always get away". Yep, meek and timid.
Answer to "are you following him"..... "YES". Very meek.
He DID go after him.

They were about 10-15 feet apart when he first saw Martin. If he was
"going after" Martin, the confrontation would have happened several
feet from the front gate, 15 seconds later not down in the middle of
the community 4 minutes later..
It is clear he tried to keep his distance and "watch" Martin until the
police arrived.


You mean, he was stalking Martin.

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On 7/16/13 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:34:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Snotty is more of a "thug" than Martin was.

And you sought a CCW so you could shoot him.
Ironic if nothing else


Shooting Scotty, unless he was in the act of home invasion, would be a
waste of a bullet.

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wrote in message ...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.

--------------------------------------

I disagree with your assertion of Martin having an "increasing
criminal record". He doesn't have a criminal police record period.
He was under suspension from school for having some pot residue in his
locker, but he doesn't have a criminal police record.

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On 7/16/2013 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.


Or, if it had not happened right when a POTUS was involved in scandal
and looking for an "out"...

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On 7/16/2013 1:34 PM, Eisboch wrote:


wrote in message ...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.

--------------------------------------

I disagree with your assertion of Martin having an "increasing criminal
record". He doesn't have a criminal police record period.
He was under suspension from school for having some pot residue in his
locker, but he doesn't have a criminal police record.



He was "under suspicion" for a lot more than that... but I am not doing
your homework for you... then add what he "admitted freely", you know
the thousand pieces of evidence the prosecution kept from us until after
the defense closed it's case, you have a clear picture of exactly what
Treyvon was all about.

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On 7/16/2013 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:54 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"These assholes always get away". Yep, meek and timid.
Answer to "are you following him"..... "YES". Very meek.
He DID go after him.

They were about 10-15 feet apart when he first saw Martin. If he was
"going after" Martin, the confrontation would have happened several
feet from the front gate, 15 seconds later not down in the middle of
the community 4 minutes later..
It is clear he tried to keep his distance and "watch" Martin until the
police arrived.


And the ****ing bragging days earlier about some guy he beat the ****
out of and saying "the next guy won't get off so easy", the films on his
phone of his friends gang beating a homeless man.. Asll we would need to
do is find out which one of his freinds was filming when he got in on
it.. The kid was by his own words a fighter and a badass, he proved it
every day and he got killed for it... period...

My take
 

On 7/16/13 1:44 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/16/2013 1:34 PM, Eisboch wrote:


wrote in message ...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.

--------------------------------------

I disagree with your assertion of Martin having an "increasing criminal
record". He doesn't have a criminal police record period.
He was under suspension from school for having some pot residue in his
locker, but he doesn't have a criminal police record.



He was "under suspicion" for a lot more than that...


Under suspicion? Any arrests? No? Then, bull****.

My take
 

On 7/16/13 1:47 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/16/2013 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:54 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"These assholes always get away". Yep, meek and timid.
Answer to "are you following him"..... "YES". Very meek.
He DID go after him.

They were about 10-15 feet apart when he first saw Martin. If he was
"going after" Martin, the confrontation would have happened several
feet from the front gate, 15 seconds later not down in the middle of
the community 4 minutes later..
It is clear he tried to keep his distance and "watch" Martin until the
police arrived.


And the ****ing bragging days earlier about some guy he beat the ****
out of and saying "the next guy won't get off so easy", the films on his
phone of his friends gang beating a homeless man.. Asll we would need to
do is find out which one of his freinds was filming when he got in on
it.. The kid was by his own words a fighter and a badass, he proved it
every day and he got killed for it... period...


Are you claiming Martin was a "tough guy,"as you claim to be?

My take
 

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...

It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.

Yeah, those "thugs" they aren't worth anything, so **** it, kill 'em
all. I notice you've added color (black and white). Is it just open
season on all "thugs" or just black ones?