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JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 16th 13 02:29 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
On 7/16/2013 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 7/15/13 6:31 PM, Eisboch wrote:


You think Martin Bashir is a "mainstream" journalist?

Thanks for the laugh.



He spent years as a newsman for the BBC and for ABC, and hosted
Nightline for a while. That's all pretty mainsteam.

---------------------------------

I guess it all depends on one's point of reference.

Personally, I'd like to see Bashir and Piers Morgan deported back to
the mother country.


I agree on both counts. Come to this country, then tell everyone what's
wrong with this country!!!

--------------------------------------------

Morgan does more than just complain about what's wrong with the USA. He
has become a loud activist for banning the private ownership of handguns
and rudely interrupts or talks over anyone who disagrees with him. I
can't understand why CNN pays him the big bucks for this unless is
purely from a standpoint of ratings.

Bashir is similar in his bashing of American culture and laws. He also
talks over his guests if they don't share his viewpoints. I find it
very difficult to listen to either which is too bad because if they were
more considerate and polite to their guests, I'd probably at listen to
them even if I didn't agree with them.

Both expel a "I am superior to all" attitude.



Seems such a waste of time to listen to them when there is info out
there you are missing...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 16th 13 02:33 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
On 7/16/2013 8:38 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/16/13 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 7/15/13 6:31 PM, Eisboch wrote:


You think Martin Bashir is a "mainstream" journalist?

Thanks for the laugh.



He spent years as a newsman for the BBC and for ABC, and hosted
Nightline for a while. That's all pretty mainsteam.

---------------------------------

I guess it all depends on one's point of reference.

Personally, I'd like to see Bashir and Piers Morgan deported back to
the mother country.


I agree on both counts. Come to this country, then tell everyone what's
wrong with this country!!!

--------------------------------------------

Morgan does more than just complain about what's wrong with the USA. He
has become a loud activist for banning the private ownership of handguns
and rudely interrupts or talks over anyone who disagrees with him. I
can't understand why CNN pays him the big bucks for this unless is
purely from a standpoint of ratings.

Bashir is similar in his bashing of American culture and laws. He also
talks over his guests if they don't share his viewpoints. I find it
very difficult to listen to either which is too bad because if they were
more considerate and polite to their guests, I'd probably at listen to
them even if I didn't agree with them.

Both expel a "I am superior to all" attitude.



Ahh, but no one is forcing you to watch or listen to either of them, right?

------------------------------------------

I'll watch and listen to them for a while because I am interested in
other people's point of view but when they become disrespectful of
others, talk over them (they both have a habit of doing this when their
guest is making a reasonable point from an opposing point of view), I
usually grab the clicker and change the channel.

Both like to climb up on their soapboxes and start sermonizing on what's
wrong with America and what should be done to fix it, usually
referencing Great Britain as a shining example. They don't seem to
understand that there are reasons why we are no longer part of their
country.


Quite frankly, I don't believe you "grab the clicker" as you never come
up with any discussion based on anybody else's point of view but
Commentators at MSNBC... If you ever watch anybody else, it sure must be
a tightly held secret what you watched, if you ever did, you would
sometimes comment on their rhetoric beyond the "msnbc talking points"...
Just my observation.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 03:11 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/16/2013 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 7/15/13 6:31 PM, Eisboch wrote:


You think Martin Bashir is a "mainstream" journalist?

Thanks for the laugh.



He spent years as a newsman for the BBC and for ABC, and hosted
Nightline for a while. That's all pretty mainsteam.

---------------------------------

I guess it all depends on one's point of reference.

Personally, I'd like to see Bashir and Piers Morgan deported back to
the mother country.


I agree on both counts. Come to this country, then tell everyone what's
wrong with this country!!!

--------------------------------------------

Morgan does more than just complain about what's wrong with the USA. He
has become a loud activist for banning the private ownership of handguns
and rudely interrupts or talks over anyone who disagrees with him. I
can't understand why CNN pays him the big bucks for this unless is
purely from a standpoint of ratings.

Bashir is similar in his bashing of American culture and laws. He also
talks over his guests if they don't share his viewpoints. I find it
very difficult to listen to either which is too bad because if they were
more considerate and polite to their guests, I'd probably at listen to
them even if I didn't agree with them.

Both expel a "I am superior to all" attitude.



Seems such a waste of time to listen to them when there is info out
there you are missing...


Such as?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 03:25 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:45:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/15/13 7:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Well, we were discussing "mainstream." His employment record includes
reasonable stints as a journalist at mainstream outlets. He's won a
number of pretty significant journalism awards.

That you apparently don't like him is a separate issue, no?


I could say the same thing about John Stossel but I bet you would not
agree.


John Stossel is a sensationalist that really stretches the truth. But
then, most of them do.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 03:29 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:51:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:44:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



During that drinking episode, he assaulted a sworn officer. And as for
his bout with the court order, my guess is that he counterfiled after
his gal of that time filed against him.

But, hey, I'm guessing "justice" will catch up with Zimmerman. He's
going to pull that gun on the wrong guy at some point.


Years ago Zimmerman argued with a cop, dumb but the charge was dropped
and both he and his girlfriend were issued matching restraining
orders. That sounds more like a redneck date in Florida ;-)


The charge was dropped because of an intervention. Of COURSE you would
condone Zimmerman ASSAULTING a cop, not "arguing", as oh, just a dumb
little thing, but that Martin, he smoked POT, therefore should be
dead.....



You forgot the guns, I thought you people were against illegal
trafficking in guns and the illegal posession by prohibited people.

He is dead because he beat up Zimmerman. The court agrees with me.


No the court doesn't agree with you! There was even expert testimony to
the contrary.

F.O.A.D. July 16th 13 04:52 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
On 7/16/13 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:05 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:51:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:44:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



During that drinking episode, he assaulted a sworn officer. And as for
his bout with the court order, my guess is that he counterfiled after
his gal of that time filed against him.

But, hey, I'm guessing "justice" will catch up with Zimmerman. He's
going to pull that gun on the wrong guy at some point.


Years ago Zimmerman argued with a cop, dumb but the charge was dropped
and both he and his girlfriend were issued matching restraining
orders. That sounds more like a redneck date in Florida ;-)

The charge was dropped because of an intervention. Of COURSE you would
condone Zimmerman ASSAULTING a cop, not "arguing", as oh, just a dumb
little thing, but that Martin, he smoked POT, therefore should be
dead.....


You forgot the guns, I thought you people were against illegal
trafficking in guns and the illegal posession by prohibited people.

He is dead because he beat up Zimmerman. The court agrees with me.


No the court doesn't agree with you! There was even expert testimony to
the contrary.


What was the verdict? Did you hear the juror? They all agreed that
Martin attacked Zimmerman.


Which proves not a thing, other than a jury of five white people and one
who wasn't, and living in a "cracker" town with a history of racism,
sanctioned the murder of a black kid. But this is America...what else
would you expect?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 05:03 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:05 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:51:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:44:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



During that drinking episode, he assaulted a sworn officer. And as for
his bout with the court order, my guess is that he counterfiled after
his gal of that time filed against him.

But, hey, I'm guessing "justice" will catch up with Zimmerman. He's
going to pull that gun on the wrong guy at some point.


Years ago Zimmerman argued with a cop, dumb but the charge was dropped
and both he and his girlfriend were issued matching restraining
orders. That sounds more like a redneck date in Florida ;-)

The charge was dropped because of an intervention. Of COURSE you would
condone Zimmerman ASSAULTING a cop, not "arguing", as oh, just a dumb
little thing, but that Martin, he smoked POT, therefore should be
dead.....


You forgot the guns, I thought you people were against illegal
trafficking in guns and the illegal posession by prohibited people.

He is dead because he beat up Zimmerman. The court agrees with me.


No the court doesn't agree with you! There was even expert testimony to
the contrary.


What was the verdict? Did you hear the juror? They all agreed that
Martin attacked Zimmerman.


cite?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 05:03 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:25:34 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:45:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/15/13 7:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:

Well, we were discussing "mainstream." His employment record includes
reasonable stints as a journalist at mainstream outlets. He's won a
number of pretty significant journalism awards.

That you apparently don't like him is a separate issue, no?

I could say the same thing about John Stossel but I bet you would not
agree.


John Stossel is a sensationalist that really stretches the truth. But
then, most of them do.


Just like the rant Harry linked.


Yep.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 16th 13 06:05 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:03:20 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


What was the verdict? Did you hear the juror? They all agreed that
Martin attacked Zimmerman.


cite?


Why don't you track down that juror interview and listen yourself.


That's not true. Show me.

F.O.A.D. July 16th 13 06:11 PM

A bit of reality for the...
 
On 7/16/13 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:52:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


What was the verdict? Did you hear the juror? They all agreed that
Martin attacked Zimmerman.


Which proves not a thing, other than a jury of five white people and one
who wasn't, and living in a "cracker" town with a history of racism,
sanctioned the murder of a black kid. But this is America...what else
would you expect?



Yet you felt obligated to arm yourself and potentially "murder"
someone.
Your argument simply does not wash



I wasn't patrolling anyone's neighborhood, looking for someone to stalk,
confront and shoot. Zimmerman was.


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