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On 7/14/13 1:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was
not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury
never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George"
either...
but it's obviously what they believed...

So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right?

Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk?

John (Gun Nut) H.


My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him
*innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we
accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago...


Accepting the verdict and believing justice was done are not the same
thing. I was at a conference in Chicago, attending regional meetings of
a mostly black labor union, when the OJ verdict was announced in the
murder trial. No one at our lunch table, and I was the only "whitey"
there, thought OJ should have walked. He was found not guilty but
justice was not done.

Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

In article ,
says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,

says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking
INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about
the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope
he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone
constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch
of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from
the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say
a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was
in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any
number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal
TV cable channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".

On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking
INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number
of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable
channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".


The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand
holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,

says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still
out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking

INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not
suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about
the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope
he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone
constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch
of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from
the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say
a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to
civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he
was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any
number
of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV
cable
channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".


The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand
holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff.

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According to Kruidbos, there was a lot more found. Over 1,000 items
(photos and text messages) that were "deleted" were able to be
retrieved.

"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...

On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking
INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number
of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable
channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".


The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand
holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff.

-----------------------------------------------------

According to Kruidbos, there was a lot more found. Over 1,000 items
(photos and text messages) that were "deleted" were able to be retrieved.

Doesn't necessarily mean a thing. On another note so you remember mike
lender from amity? He became a veterinarian. He was the grandson of the
founder of lenders bagels died last week pancreatic cancer. 😟

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says...
Ben Kruidbos


This one?

http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Ben Kruidbos


This one?

http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj

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One of many. There's also an interview (after he was fired) in which
he comments on the number of files that were deleted (approximately
1000).
They apparently were accessible when the phone was taken into state
custody but were mysteriously deleted later. That's what all the
fuss is about.

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:29:04 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Ben Kruidbos


This one?

http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj

Fired for doing the right thing, sounds right for this particular
prosecutor.
There should be sanctions and perhaps a few heads rolling in that DA's
office.
They never had a case and resorted to illegal activities to make it
look like they did.
Our local DA said he never thought that case should proceed and was
not surprised at all with the verdict. Bear in mind the DA's office
refused to prosecute based on the evidence they had that night and
that is why Zimmerman was sent home.
It wasn't until this became a political witch hunt that the case went
forward. Outright lies by the media fed the frenzy.
Weeks after they had the pictures of Zimmerman's injuries Chris
Matthews was still saying he was not injured at all.

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When all the dust settles it will become clear that this unfortunate
event evolve into another attempt at changing gun laws.
The pro-gun control groups are already past civil and/or federal suits
and want another "conversation" about gun laws in general.

I am getting tired of hearing that expression, "we need to have a
conversation". It's overused and is meaningless. Either get your
ass in gear and propose something or shut up and go home.