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John H[_2_]

July 7th 13 02:04 PM

Some trip comments

Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_]

July 7th 13 03:32 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

HankÂ©[_3_]

July 7th 13 06:46 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/7/2013 1:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 10:32:30 -0400, HankÂ©
wrote:

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

I have made that trip many times, before and after I-95. The
interstate is about it. You can do 301 or the 15/17 coastal route but
both are slow with a town every few miles.
I suppose you could take 85 out of Richmond, to Atlanta and 75 down to
the Fla Turnpike to Mouseville but that is a lot longer.

Oh well! I do have air ride. Hope it keeps the DVD where it belongs.

Eisboch[_9_]

July 7th 13 07:43 PM

Some trip comments

"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot
is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of
the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass
95?
I don't see one on the map.

-----------------------------------------

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

[email protected]

July 7th 13 08:14 PM

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John H[_2_]

July 7th 13 08:40 PM

Some trip comments

On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 10:32:30 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

I didn't even take a camera. On the trip down I stayed at New Green Acres campground, Walterboro,
SC. It was just at 500 miles from home, which is what I figured was a decent day's drive.

http://www.newgreenacres.com/

The campground wasn't anything special, but the sites were all pull-through, and quite level. I just
left the trailer hooked up so I could get an early start.

There was a group of bicyclists staying there for the night - maybe fifteen or so, male and female,
late teens or early twenties. They were in tents, and I commented to one of them that it was going
to be mighty hot in the tents. She told me they were headed to San Diego, by bike. This was their
first night on the road. They were going to take the southern route the whole way across because it
was flatter than heading up north.

More power to 'em!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[email protected]

July 7th 13 10:22 PM

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Hank©[_3_]

July 7th 13 11:18 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/7/2013 2:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is
great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the
cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

-----------------------------------------

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

It's something to consider. We have time to make a stop at either
Charleston or Myrtle Beach.

Eisboch[_9_]

July 7th 13 11:34 PM

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"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 7/7/2013 2:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and
stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with
a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

It's something to consider. We have time to make a stop at either
Charleston or Myrtle Beach.

---------------------------------------

It was .... shall we say .... Interesting? Not a route I'd take
everyday but it was different. Glad we did it once.
I am still planning a trip down to the Isle of Palms area in South
Carolina to see my son and his family. Mrs.E. flies down, but I don't
do airplanes anymore unless absolutely necessary and even then with
much hesitation. Haven't made the drive south on I-95 for a few
years now and am not sure I am looking forward to it. I've heard
horror stories.

John H[_2_]

July 8th 13 12:55 PM

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On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:18:54 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 7/7/2013 2:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is
great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the
cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

-----------------------------------------

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

It's something to consider. We have time to make a stop at either
Charleston or Myrtle Beach.

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must
be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the
middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_]

July 8th 13 12:57 PM

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On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:34:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Hank©" wrote in message
web.com...

On 7/7/2013 2:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and
stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with
a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

It's something to consider. We have time to make a stop at either
Charleston or Myrtle Beach.

---------------------------------------

It was .... shall we say .... Interesting? Not a route I'd take
everyday but it was different. Glad we did it once.
I am still planning a trip down to the Isle of Palms area in South
Carolina to see my son and his family. Mrs.E. flies down, but I don't
do airplanes anymore unless absolutely necessary and even then with
much hesitation. Haven't made the drive south on I-95 for a few
years now and am not sure I am looking forward to it. I've heard
horror stories.

Try to hit the stretch between DC and Richmond between 2 and 4 AM. It's gotten to be a real bitch.
Took us almost three hours to get here from Richmond. It used to be a 90 minute trip.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_]

July 8th 13 12:58 PM

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On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:12:19 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:43:58 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

The last 2 times we drove up we went 75 to Atlanta and then went up
through the mountains bailing out in Virginia through Richmond and up
301
We made a week out of the mountain part

If I were going further north, I'd seriously consider 301.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[email protected]

July 8th 13 01:17 PM

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On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

Hank©[_3_]

July 8th 13 01:20 PM

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On 7/8/2013 7:57 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:34:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 7/7/2013 2:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:

We did the Rt. 17 Coastal route one time in an RV heading back from
Florida. Picked it up south of SC and followed it north. I forget
where we re-connected to I-95 but it was probably in Virginia.

Not a time saver by any stretch of the imagination. Lights and
stops
all along the way. But, it was a refreshing change from I-95 with
a
lot of local "stuff" to view.

It's something to consider. We have time to make a stop at either
Charleston or Myrtle Beach.

---------------------------------------

It was .... shall we say .... Interesting? Not a route I'd take
everyday but it was different. Glad we did it once.
I am still planning a trip down to the Isle of Palms area in South
Carolina to see my son and his family. Mrs.E. flies down, but I don't
do airplanes anymore unless absolutely necessary and even then with
much hesitation. Haven't made the drive south on I-95 for a few
years now and am not sure I am looking forward to it. I've heard
horror stories.

Try to hit the stretch between DC and Richmond between 2 and 4 AM. It's gotten to be a real bitch.
Took us almost three hours to get here from Richmond. It used to be a 90 minute trip.

John (Gun Nut) H.

I don't plan on using I95 between Richmond and north of NYC,,,,EVER.

iBoaterer[_3_]

July 8th 13 01:34 PM

Some trip comments

In article ,
says...

On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

I like it because it's a small city, easy to get around, etc. I
especially like the City Market. Also, go over the the bridge and eat at
The Wreck, if you can find it as there is no sign.

John H[_2_]

July 8th 13 01:46 PM

Some trip comments

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

I think a couple weeks to see Myrtle Beach and Charleston might be some fun. I'll make mention if we
do it next year (this year's full) and try to solicit some tips. I'm really into all-you-can-eat
seafood places!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[email protected]

July 8th 13 03:34 PM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:46:22 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

I think a couple weeks to see Myrtle Beach and Charleston might be some fun. I'll make mention if we

do it next year (this year's full) and try to solicit some tips. I'm really into all-you-can-eat

seafood places!

John (Gun Nut) H.

Myrtle Beach has a ton of golf courses and is OK, but is a huge tourist trap. For a good beach experience Hilton Head is great, and if you're into a quiet, family beach Edisto Island is good. There's a nice course at Edisto, and Charleston is about an hour away. Charleston to Myrtle Beach is about 2 hours.

If you decide to do it let me know and I'll be happy to help. Might even drive down for a day to play a round!

iBoaterer[_3_]

July 8th 13 04:53 PM

Some trip comments

In article ,
says...

On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:46:22 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

I think a couple weeks to see Myrtle Beach and Charleston might be some fun. I'll make mention if we

do it next year (this year's full) and try to solicit some tips. I'm really into all-you-can-eat

seafood places!

John (Gun Nut) H.

Myrtle Beach has a ton of golf courses and is OK, but is a huge tourist trap. For a good beach experience Hilton Head is great, and if you're into a quiet, family beach Edisto Island is good. There's a nice course at Edisto, and Charleston is about an hour away. Charleston to Myrtle Beach is about 2 hours.

If you decide to do it let me know and I'll be happy to help. Might even drive down for a day to play a round!

Pawley's Island was nice when I went there about 15 years ago. Is it
still away from the crowds of Myrtle?

F.O.A.D.

July 8th 13 04:55 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/7/13 1:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 10:32:30 -0400, HankÂ©
wrote:

On 7/7/2013 9:04 AM, John H wrote:
Disney World is still there. The food at the German place in Epcot is great, but the price has gone
up to $39.50 each.

Universal Studios sucks.

I-95 in South Carolina sucks. Bounced the DVD player right out of the cabinet.

Georgia did a nice job on I-95.

North Carolina golf can be very muggy in July.

Shooting at ProShots with brother, his and my wives, was fun.

I'm getting much better at backing the 5th wheel.

Truck got 11.8 mpg pulling the trailer (about 10,500 lbs)

Just can't wait to download all the nice stuff on rec.boats.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Cant wait to see the full detailed report, complete with photos. ;-)
Where did you camp, and what did you think of it?

Is SC 95 really that bad? Is there a good alternate route to bypass 95?
I don't see one on the map.

I have made that trip many times, before and after I-95. The
interstate is about it. You can do 301 or the 15/17 coastal route but
both are slow with a town every few miles.
I suppose you could take 85 out of Richmond, to Atlanta and 75 down to
the Fla Turnpike to Mouseville but that is a lot longer.

I try to avoid I-95 between Fairfax County and Richmond, Virginia. We
take 301 south from Waldorf and then pick up the Richmond bypass and get
on I-95 south of Richmond. Route 301 is a pretty decent drive. I-95
through North Carolina isn't bad. We gas up and hit the pit stops before
we get into South Carolina so, hopefully, we don't have to spend a
dollar in that state. It also seems that I-95 in South Carolina is not
well-maintained.

[email protected]

July 8th 13 05:49 PM

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On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:53:02 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:46:22 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 7:55:43 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:

We'd initially planned to stop at Charleston on the way back and catch the fireworks. But, that must

be a popular 4 July destination, 'cause all the campgrounds were full. We started looking about the

middle of June. Too late.

John (Gun Nut) H.

It's popular all the time. Great food, lots of history, just a very cool city. It's only 1.5 hours for us, we go down several times a year. The Market Pavilion Hotel is very nice, and if you just have to eat something other than seafood Grill 225 in the lobby is a killer steak place.

I think a couple weeks to see Myrtle Beach and Charleston might be some fun. I'll make mention if we

do it next year (this year's full) and try to solicit some tips. I'm really into all-you-can-eat

seafood places!

John (Gun Nut) H.

Myrtle Beach has a ton of golf courses and is OK, but is a huge tourist trap. For a good beach experience Hilton Head is great, and if you're into a quiet, family beach Edisto Island is good. There's a nice course at Edisto, and Charleston is about an hour away. Charleston to Myrtle Beach is about 2 hours.

If you decide to do it let me know and I'll be happy to help. Might even drive down for a day to play a round!

Pawley's Island was nice when I went there about 15 years ago. Is it

still away from the crowds of Myrtle?

The sprawl has gotten closer, but it's still out far enough it's not bad. Seems that most of the expansion has been north of MB, not as much south.

[email protected]

July 8th 13 05:54 PM

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On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:55:56 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I try to avoid I-95 between Fairfax County and Richmond, Virginia. We

take 301 south from Waldorf and then pick up the Richmond bypass and get

on I-95 south of Richmond. Route 301 is a pretty decent drive. I-95

through North Carolina isn't bad. We gas up and hit the pit stops before

we get into South Carolina so, hopefully, we don't have to spend a

dollar in that state. It also seems that I-95 in South Carolina is not

well-maintained.

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

F.O.A.D.

July 8th 13 07:33 PM

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On 7/8/13 12:54 PM, wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:55:56 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I try to avoid I-95 between Fairfax County and Richmond, Virginia. We

take 301 south from Waldorf and then pick up the Richmond bypass and get

on I-95 south of Richmond. Route 301 is a pretty decent drive. I-95

through North Carolina isn't bad. We gas up and hit the pit stops before

we get into South Carolina so, hopefully, we don't have to spend a

dollar in that state. It also seems that I-95 in South Carolina is not

well-maintained.

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

While traveling the I-95 corridor, we gas up and stop for meals and
sometimes lodging just about everywhere *except* South Carolina. I
wouldn't spend a dime in Texas, either.

[email protected]

July 8th 13 08:05 PM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 2:33:46 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

While traveling the I-95 corridor, we gas up and stop for meals and

sometimes lodging just about everywhere *except* South Carolina. I

wouldn't spend a dime in Texas, either.

As I said, for you, politics trumps compassion. You want to think you're hurting those state governments. You don't give a damn about the people and communities struggling to make it, depending on the very businesses you don't patronize.

It defines you. A smug, arrogant, and shortsighted liberal.

F.O.A.D.

July 8th 13 08:16 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/8/13 3:05 PM, wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 2:33:46 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

While traveling the I-95 corridor, we gas up and stop for meals and

sometimes lodging just about everywhere *except* South Carolina. I

wouldn't spend a dime in Texas, either.

As I said, for you, politics trumps compassion. You want to think you're hurting those state governments. You don't give a damn about the people and communities struggling to make it, depending on the very businesses you don't patronize.

It defines you. A smug, arrogant, and shortsighted liberal.

Aren't you good old boys seceding, or at least talking about it? Well,
hell, get on with it.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 02:14 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 3:16:06 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 3:05 PM, wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 2:33:46 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

While traveling the I-95 corridor, we gas up and stop for meals and

sometimes lodging just about everywhere *except* South Carolina. I

wouldn't spend a dime in Texas, either.

As I said, for you, politics trumps compassion. You want to think you're hurting those state governments. You don't give a damn about the people and communities struggling to make it, depending on the very businesses you don't patronize.

It defines you. A smug, arrogant, and shortsighted liberal.

Aren't you good old boys seceding, or at least talking about it? Well,

hell, get on with it.

Don't try to change the subject. Why aren't you supporting the good folk along the I-95 SC corridor, the liberal voting base? Oh yeah, because you hate the minority, female governor that the voters put in place. Don't want to live here, and pay your taxes (~snerk) into a conservative state? I'm all for that. Fail to support your liberal voting base? Shame on you.

Put your (non-tax) paying money where your mouth is.

Tim	July 9th 13 02:27 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

F.O.A.D.

July 9th 13 02:32 AM

Some trip comments

On 7/8/13 9:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.
anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with
tourism business.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 02:35 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:27:24 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

The area of SC that I-95 passes through is an economically depressed area. It's pretty much an interstate highway with nothing around it. To intentionally pass through it without spending any money is withholding dollars from people that need it, and rely on it for their livelihood. To do that because of some misplaced political alignment is heartless.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 02:37 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:32:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 9:27 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.

anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with

tourism business.

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 02:39 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:32:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 9:27 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.

anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with

tourism business.

Oh, and you have no problem supporting union slobs that help pay your salary (although you pay no taxes, eh?), but you won't help support the exact people you pretend to want to help? Typical liberal.

F.O.A.D.

July 9th 13 02:54 AM

Some trip comments

wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:32:54 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 9:27 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:54:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Funny (strange) that you claim that lefties are the ones that have a
heart and want to help their fellow man, but when you purposefully
don't spend your tourist dollars on that I-95 corridor, you're hurting
exactly the ones that need help the most.

For you, politics trumps compassion.

Odd, I've never seen anyone (business) in a 'busy' tourist trap that
was hurting for lack of tourist dollars...

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.

anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with

tourism business.

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

Actually, you don't but it doesn't matter.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 03:45 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:54:43 PM UTC-4, F. O. A. D. wrote:
wrote:

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

Actually, you don't but it doesn't matter.

So tell us why you hate the underclass workers so much on the I-95 corridor through SC so much that you won't spend your money there. The liberal voting base. After all, you'd be supporting Jim Clyburn.

[email protected]

July 9th 13 03:47 AM

Some trip comments

On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:39:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:32:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.

anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with

tourism business.

Humm... I don't seem to remember Maryland ever electing a female

governor or a person of any ethnic minority for that office.

They were all white guys and more than a few were corrupt.

He's chosen a "team" and it doesn't matter how corrupt they are.

Hank©[_3_]

July 9th 13 10:25 AM

Some trip comments

On 7/8/2013 10:47 PM, wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:39:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:32:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.

anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with

tourism business.

Humm... I don't seem to remember Maryland ever electing a female

governor or a person of any ethnic minority for that office.

They were all white guys and more than a few were corrupt.

He's chosen a "team" and it doesn't matter how corrupt they are.

Loyalty is a powerful force.
Remember how loyal O'Bama was to The Rev.Jerramiah Wright. He stuck with
him wright up until the time he realized that Wright might cost him the
election.

F.O.A.D.

July 9th 13 11:15 AM

Some trip comments

On 7/8/13 10:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:32:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.
anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with
tourism business.

Humm... I don't seem to remember Maryland ever electing a female
governor or a person of any ethnic minority for that office.
They were all white guys and more than a few were corrupt.

You don't have to be a woman politician to not be anti-woman, or a black
politician to not be anti-black. Further, I don't expect all the players
in our political system to be pure as the driven snow in corruption.
Maryland is not particularly backwards, racist, anti-government,
anti-woman, or anti voters' rights.

F.O.A.D.

July 9th 13 11:33 AM

Some trip comments

On 7/8/13 10:45 PM, wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:54:43 PM UTC-4, F. O. A. D. wrote:
wrote:

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

Actually, you don't but it doesn't matter.

So tell us why you hate the underclass workers so much on the I-95 corridor through SC so much that you won't spend your money there. The liberal voting base. After all, you'd be supporting Jim Clyburn.

You can always depend on some of the right-wingers here to try to
personalize their obvious hatred for those whose political opinions
differ from theirs, eh? In my comments about South Carolina, I directed
nothing towards you personally or, in fact, any other poster here.

And always with the accusations of "hate."

[email protected]

July 9th 13 12:48 PM

Some trip comments

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:33:49 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 10:45 PM, wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:54:43 PM UTC-4, F. O. A. D. wrote:

wrote:

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

Actually, you don't but it doesn't matter.

So tell us why you hate the underclass workers so much on the I-95 corridor through SC so much that you won't spend your money there. The liberal voting base. After all, you'd be supporting Jim Clyburn.

You can always depend on some of the right-wingers here to try to

personalize their obvious hatred for those whose political opinions

differ from theirs, eh? In my comments about South Carolina, I directed

nothing towards you personally or, in fact, any other poster here.

And always with the accusations of "hate."

"their obvious hatred" Pot-kettle.

You pointed out what you personally did. I pointed out the obvious hypocrisy of your actions.

Tim	July 9th 13 12:53 PM

Some trip comments

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:33:49 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

You can always depend on some of the right-wingers here to try to

personalize their obvious hatred for those whose political opinions

differ from theirs, eh? ...
And always with the accusations of "hate."

Your statement also applies well for the left-wingers, bro.

F.O.A.D.

July 9th 13 01:21 PM

Some trip comments

On 7/9/13 7:48 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:33:49 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/8/13 10:45 PM, wrote:

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:54:43 PM UTC-4, F. O. A. D. wrote:

wrote:

So you hate Nikki Haley, the minority woman Governor of SC? Ah, got it.

Actually, you don't but it doesn't matter.

So tell us why you hate the underclass workers so much on the I-95 corridor through SC so much that you won't spend your money there. The liberal voting base. After all, you'd be supporting Jim Clyburn.

You can always depend on some of the right-wingers here to try to

personalize their obvious hatred for those whose political opinions

differ from theirs, eh? In my comments about South Carolina, I directed

nothing towards you personally or, in fact, any other poster here.

And always with the accusations of "hate."

"their obvious hatred" Pot-kettle.

You pointed out what you personally did. I pointed out the obvious hypocrisy of your actions.

Please point out in this exchange where I have singled you out beyond
pointing out the fallacy in your Nikki Haley claim.

Oh, and being "female" puts Ms. Haley in the majority in this country.
Perhaps you are referring to her ethnic background...her ancestry from
India? Or her Sikh religion? What is your reference? When I see photos
or video clips of her, I see a physically attractive woman who looks as
if she has a decent tan. I certainly cannot determine what "race" she
might be, nor do I care.

I don't like Governor Haley's right-wing politics, but I certainly don't
"hate" her or even "dislike" her.

John H[_2_]

July 9th 13 01:29 PM

Some trip comments

On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:15:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/8/13 10:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:32:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I see no reason to support backwards, racist, anti-government.
anti-woman, anti voters' rights states like South Carolina or Texas with
tourism business.

Humm... I don't seem to remember Maryland ever electing a female
governor or a person of any ethnic minority for that office.
They were all white guys and more than a few were corrupt.

You don't have to be a woman politician to not be anti-woman, or a black
politician to not be anti-black. Further, I don't expect all the players
in our political system to be pure as the driven snow in corruption.
Maryland is not particularly backwards, racist, anti-government,
anti-woman, or anti voters' rights.

The fact that the sky is not blue does not mean that it's not going to rain.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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