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Hank©[_3_] July 3rd 13 02:43 PM

What a joke
 
On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who
has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman
has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it
relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a
friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial
charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to
"resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he
agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge.
An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a
counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of
that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The
only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his
family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension
when this whole affair occurred.


I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.

Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was
no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:22 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article
,
says...


So now the court is in a 15 minute break. The MSNBC crew are all
excitedly discussing this "conflicting expert testimony" and about
how the doc said Zimmerman only got hit a couple of times.

You gotta be kidding me.


http://newsone.com/2001237/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-
guilty/
It's nearly all racial/ethnic. Blacks on TV universally
cast the worst light on anything about Zimmerman.
CNN black "analysts/commentators" do it too.
Same with the rabid anti-gun whites.
Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white.
"Normal" people who rely on the scales of justice being
fair and impartial are disturbed that justice is being
made a circus by the racists and other nut jobs.
Not too much different than the OJ trial.
Personally, I think both shooter and victim were punks.
I'll go with the trial outcome.
But I can't see any way in the world that "depraved
mind" can be proved against Zimmerman - unless the jury
is incompetent. And that wouldn't surprise me at all.
They might find him guilty of manslaughter.
I wouldn't, given the evidence I've seen.
Seems clearly self-defense from all evidence I've heard.
But the selected jury will decide.
That's all that matters, barring appeals.



Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic with some African-American in his background? This makes him a brown
person and not a whitey.


So? Does that mean that he can't be prejudiced?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:23 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who
has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman
has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it
relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a
friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial
charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to
"resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he
agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge.
An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a
counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of
that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The
only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his
family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension
when this whole affair occurred.


I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.


Was it also dishonest for FOX to show pictures of a young suit wearing
Zimmerman?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:25 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 7:27 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of
their son.


Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye?


Maybe the state of Florida got justice for the parents not raising their
kid properly....


What makes you think that the parent's raised there kid any other way
than "properly"? Do you raise your kids properly? What is the proper way
to raise a kid? One would say to ensure that they have enough self value
to want to go to college, get a decent education and be something other
than a bar tender.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:26 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 7:29 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.


So what if Trey grabbed Zimm's gun and killed Zimm like he promised to
do? How would you call that scenario?


That would be fine with Al Sharpton and harry... Hell, even if Martin
had killed Zimm with the stolen gun he was trying to buy earlier, it
would have been ok with the racists here....


You calling someone else a racist is just stupid, everyone here
remembers your racial slurs.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:26 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 7:36 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:56 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates
to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and
acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of
"resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an
officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an
alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An
ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter
restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A
"domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only
one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is
the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this
whole affair occurred.



I'm sorry...when was Martin arrested or served with a restraining order?

When was Zimm suspended from school on several occasions for drug
possession among other things. Introducing Trev's and Zimm's history
into the record might tip the scales in favor of Zimm. Maybe not.


I think it would be great if their past were both included... Martin was
a thug, he was up to no good, he got shot.... period.


How do you know he was "up to no good", idiot?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 03:27 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 7:49 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:24:25 AM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...



On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:





Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.





"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.

No need for a trial. "



------------------------------------



Tim, your attributes are off. Harry didn't say that. I did.


That's one thing about Google Groups and you and Harry using the same fake email address. Sometimes it can't distinguish who is who.

According to Google Groups Iresoponded to F.O.A.D.


It has been noted several times to both.. I think it's a way to keep
both out of kill files.. If you want one read the posts of one partner,
you gotta' take the whole democratic team.... :)


Insane Scotty!! Yes, it's a conspiracy by Harry and Eisboch..... they
want to get into you head and leave voices telling you to do
things...... BOO!

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 3rd 13 04:14 PM

What a joke
 
On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who
has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman
has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it
relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a
friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial
charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to
"resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he
agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge.
An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a
counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of
that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The
only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his
family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension
when this whole affair occurred.


I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.


It was huge in this case. The news made this case by convincing everyone
including one witness (who later recanted based on real photos) who
initially thought Zimmerman was "on top" but later realized the false
representation with a old picture of Martin, made her think "Zimmerman"
was the one on top. She later changed her testimony, even in court
here.... but by now of course, that picture got Sharpton on top and
started all of this... It was the drooling MSM that did this...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 3rd 13 04:14 PM

What a joke
 
On 7/3/2013 9:43 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who
has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman
has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it
relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a
friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial
charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to
"resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he
agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge.
An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a
counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of
that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The
only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his
family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension
when this whole affair occurred.


I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also
waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious
message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.

Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was
no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was.


If they play it in court, it's all over...

iBoaterer[_3_] July 3rd 13 04:58 PM

What a joke
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 9:43 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'.
No need for a trial."


I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who
has
a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots
an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman
has
a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave
Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the
situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin.

--------------------------------------------

May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you
reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it
relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a
friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial
charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to
"resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he
agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program.

As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge.
An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a
counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of
that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either.

If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are
several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the
portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The
only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his
family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension
when this whole affair occurred.

I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also
waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious
message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.

Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was
no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was.


If they play it in court, it's all over...


Holy **** you are stupid!!!!


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