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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:16:20 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
@googlegroups.com, says... On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:35:53 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote: Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white. Zimm is not white. Looks like you just got off the boat. Maybe that's your problem. You've been drinking the kool-aide for too long. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:56 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I'm sorry...when was Martin arrested or served with a restraining order? ---------------------------------------- I'm sorry...where exactly did I say he was? |
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On 7/3/13 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. ------------------------------------- Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that might indicate otherwise. Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one shy of half the country. Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems. It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person, precipitate an argument, and then shoot and kill that person. That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh. ------------------------------------------- The "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country specifically forbid any action as you have described. What actually happened in the Zimmerman case will be determined by a jury after giving consideration to all the evidence presented in the trial. I have little confidence in southern, white juries deliberating on whether a white man killed a black man, but we shall see. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. ------------------------------------- Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that might indicate otherwise. Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one shy of half the country. Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems. It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person, precipitate an argument, and then shoot and kill that person. That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh. ------------------------------------------- The "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country specifically forbid any action as you have described. What actually happened in the Zimmerman case will be determined by a jury after giving consideration to all the evidence presented in the trial. I have little confidence in southern, white juries deliberating on whether a white man killed a black man, but we shall see. --------------------------------------- There's no argument as to whether Zimmerman killed Martin. Zimmerman admits that. The question is was he justified in doing so. But, I understand your point even though I don't agree with your all inclusive, predetermined views on the subject. |
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On 7/3/13 7:22 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. ------------------------------------- Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that might indicate otherwise. Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one shy of half the country. Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems. It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person, precipitate an argument, and then shoot and kill that person. That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh. ------------------------------------------- The "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country specifically forbid any action as you have described. What actually happened in the Zimmerman case will be determined by a jury after giving consideration to all the evidence presented in the trial. I have little confidence in southern, white juries deliberating on whether a white man killed a black man, but we shall see. --------------------------------------- There's no argument as to whether Zimmerman killed Martin. Zimmerman admits that. The question is was he justified in doing so. But, I understand your point even though I don't agree with your all inclusive, predetermined views on the subject. I have no requirement that you agree with my preconceived notions! You're a better than reasonable guy, even when you are completely wrong (from my point of view). |
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On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of their son. Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye? |
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On 7/3/2013 6:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. So what if Trey grabbed Zimm's gun and killed Zimm like he promised to do? How would you call that scenario? |
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On 7/3/2013 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:56 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I'm sorry...when was Martin arrested or served with a restraining order? When was Zimm suspended from school on several occasions for drug possession among other things. Introducing Trev's and Zimm's history into the record might tip the scales in favor of Zimm. Maybe not. |
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On 7/3/2013 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. ------------------------------------- Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that might indicate otherwise. Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one shy of half the country. Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems. Often, Harry has lunch With Al and they have long conversations on thing that matter. Snicker. ;-) |
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