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On 7/3/2013 3:15 AM, Glaasgok wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

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In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

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The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this," and
shot the kid.

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Who knows? I am not taking sides and don't have a clue if he's telling
the truth. I find the trial fascinating though.

But I find it interesting that you also automatically assume Zimmerman was
referring to blacks with his "those guys" comment. Why?
In all the interviews and written statements, he talks about break
ins/home invasions and never (to my knowledge) refers to blacks, whites,
Latinos, Asians or any specific race as being responsible. He refers to
them as "burglars". So, when he says "those guys", I take it as being
"those guys" that are committing the burglaries.

So why did he get out of his car and start following Martin? Martin have
"BURGLAR" printed on the back of his hoodie? Zimmerman is guilty of
manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, reckless endangerment -
something - but, according to Florida's definition of 2nd degree murder, not
that. Incidentally, immediately after the shooting happened, TV news
reported the first detective on the scene wanted to charge him with 2nd
degree murder.



OH NOOOOOOO, "the news reported it"... Yeah, the news also changed a
recording of the initial 911 call to make Zimmermann look racist...

Zimm trial
 

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On 7/3/2013 3:15 AM, Glaasgok wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this," and
shot the kid.

---------------------------------------

Who knows? I am not taking sides and don't have a clue if he's telling
the truth. I find the trial fascinating though.

But I find it interesting that you also automatically assume Zimmerman was
referring to blacks with his "those guys" comment. Why?
In all the interviews and written statements, he talks about break
ins/home invasions and never (to my knowledge) refers to blacks, whites,
Latinos, Asians or any specific race as being responsible. He refers to
them as "burglars". So, when he says "those guys", I take it as being
"those guys" that are committing the burglaries.

So why did he get out of his car and start following Martin? Martin have
"BURGLAR" printed on the back of his hoodie? Zimmerman is guilty of
manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, reckless endangerment -
something - but, according to Florida's definition of 2nd degree murder, not
that. Incidentally, immediately after the shooting happened, TV news
reported the first detective on the scene wanted to charge him with 2nd
degree murder.



OH NOOOOOOO, "the news reported it"... Yeah, the news also changed a
recording of the initial 911 call to make Zimmermann look racist...

WTF are you talking about, moron?