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Gadget Disappointment
Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a “computer” handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the “file” system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can’t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a “real” computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It’s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in “the cloud” has little appeal for me. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn’t working for me. Too much “touchy, feely touchscreening” for my taste and patience. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn’t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I’m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. After careful consideration, I put the iPad up for sale on an affinity discussion board for a reasonable price and it was “gone” the same day. So, now, I’m moving back to a “regular” laptop computer. One with a file system I can use and a pointing device that works the way I want it to work. I’ll have to find myself a Luddite tee-shirt. :) |
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says... On 6/27/13 10:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a ?computer? handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the ?file? system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can?t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a ?real? computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It?s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in ?the cloud? has little appeal for me. It is true (somewhat) on an Android tablet as well, that is true. BUT, there is a very easy workaround for it, you can make your own folders similar to a windows folder. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn?t working for me. Too much ?touchy, feely touchscreening? for my taste and patience. Hmm, you can use ANY Bluetooth mouse with my Android tablet, as well as any Bluetooth keyboard. There are also keyboards onto witch you dock the Android tablet. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn?t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I?m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. Well, same with a tablet. But, I am with you, while I LOVE my tablet and take it everywhere because it's much nicer to have a bigger screen than my Android phone, it doesn't come close to taking the place of ANY computer. Mine is a 7" Samsung, and what I really like about it, is it's small enough to hold in one hand, and I use a stylus with it. Much bigger screen than my phone, but if I were to use a 10" one, I'd just have a laptop! Yeah, I used a bluetooth docking keyboard with my iPad. But there was no facility to use a mouse the way you might with a laptop or desktop. That really annoyed me. The screen size was fine...it had what Apple calls a "retina" display, and it was sharp as a tack, even to my old eyes. In any event, the iPad is with its new owner, and I'm getting a new, very lightweight laptop from Apple, direct from the PRC and perhaps with chopsticks. I can go two ways with the keyboard, either a dock, where when you press it into the holder it actually uses the port, OR Bluetooth. And I can use a Bluetooth mouse as well, but it just doesn't operate like a windows computer, and that is a negative for me. But, as a device I love it, I use it for all of my appointment calender stuff, address and phone book, etc. |
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On 6/27/13 1:54 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 6/27/13 10:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a ?computer? handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the ?file? system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can?t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a ?real? computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It?s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in ?the cloud? has little appeal for me. It is true (somewhat) on an Android tablet as well, that is true. BUT, there is a very easy workaround for it, you can make your own folders similar to a windows folder. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn?t working for me. Too much ?touchy, feely touchscreening? for my taste and patience. Hmm, you can use ANY Bluetooth mouse with my Android tablet, as well as any Bluetooth keyboard. There are also keyboards onto witch you dock the Android tablet. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn?t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I?m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. Well, same with a tablet. But, I am with you, while I LOVE my tablet and take it everywhere because it's much nicer to have a bigger screen than my Android phone, it doesn't come close to taking the place of ANY computer. Mine is a 7" Samsung, and what I really like about it, is it's small enough to hold in one hand, and I use a stylus with it. Much bigger screen than my phone, but if I were to use a 10" one, I'd just have a laptop! Yeah, I used a bluetooth docking keyboard with my iPad. But there was no facility to use a mouse the way you might with a laptop or desktop. That really annoyed me. The screen size was fine...it had what Apple calls a "retina" display, and it was sharp as a tack, even to my old eyes. In any event, the iPad is with its new owner, and I'm getting a new, very lightweight laptop from Apple, direct from the PRC and perhaps with chopsticks. I can go two ways with the keyboard, either a dock, where when you press it into the holder it actually uses the port, OR Bluetooth. And I can use a Bluetooth mouse as well, but it just doesn't operate like a windows computer, and that is a negative for me. But, as a device I love it, I use it for all of my appointment calender stuff, address and phone book, etc. Yeah, I've used the iPad I had with a bluetooth keyboard. There wasn't a capability I knew of to plug a keyboard directly into a device port. But I had no problems with the bluetooth keyboards I used. There was a "jailbreak" program that allowed very limited use of a mouse on an iPad, but not enough use to interest me. I'm not familiar with what might be possible on an Android device with a mouse. In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. |
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On 6/27/13 2:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. Apple does update its mainline OS every year or so, but not frequent enough to be annoying, and usually the upgrades are minor and incremental. The IO used on the phones and iPads seems to get a major update about every eight months. The updates can be installed easily. |
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:47:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:47:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... |
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On 6/27/13 4:12 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:47:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... It's sort of hard for something to be more versatile for the dollar than iTunes, which Apple gives away at no cost. Perhaps you are comparing your MP3 player to an Apple hardware device, such as an iPhone or iPad. In that case, you'd be wrong. |
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On 6/27/2013 10:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a “computer” handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the “file” system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can’t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a “real” computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It’s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in “the cloud” has little appeal for me. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn’t working for me. Too much “touchy, feely touchscreening” for my taste and patience. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn’t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I’m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. After careful consideration, I put the iPad up for sale on an affinity discussion board for a reasonable price and it was “gone” the same day. So, now, I’m moving back to a “regular” laptop computer. One with a file system I can use and a pointing device that works the way I want it to work. I’ll have to find myself a Luddite tee-shirt. :) Trust me. You won't need the tee shirt to be recognized. |
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says... On 6/27/13 1:54 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/27/13 10:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a ?computer? handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the ?file? system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can?t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a ?real? computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It?s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in ?the cloud? has little appeal for me. It is true (somewhat) on an Android tablet as well, that is true. BUT, there is a very easy workaround for it, you can make your own folders similar to a windows folder. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn?t working for me. Too much ?touchy, feely touchscreening? for my taste and patience. Hmm, you can use ANY Bluetooth mouse with my Android tablet, as well as any Bluetooth keyboard. There are also keyboards onto witch you dock the Android tablet. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn?t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I?m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. Well, same with a tablet. But, I am with you, while I LOVE my tablet and take it everywhere because it's much nicer to have a bigger screen than my Android phone, it doesn't come close to taking the place of ANY computer. Mine is a 7" Samsung, and what I really like about it, is it's small enough to hold in one hand, and I use a stylus with it. Much bigger screen than my phone, but if I were to use a 10" one, I'd just have a laptop! Yeah, I used a bluetooth docking keyboard with my iPad. But there was no facility to use a mouse the way you might with a laptop or desktop. That really annoyed me. The screen size was fine...it had what Apple calls a "retina" display, and it was sharp as a tack, even to my old eyes. In any event, the iPad is with its new owner, and I'm getting a new, very lightweight laptop from Apple, direct from the PRC and perhaps with chopsticks. I can go two ways with the keyboard, either a dock, where when you press it into the holder it actually uses the port, OR Bluetooth. And I can use a Bluetooth mouse as well, but it just doesn't operate like a windows computer, and that is a negative for me. But, as a device I love it, I use it for all of my appointment calender stuff, address and phone book, etc. Yeah, I've used the iPad I had with a bluetooth keyboard. There wasn't a capability I knew of to plug a keyboard directly into a device port. But I had no problems with the bluetooth keyboards I used. There was a "jailbreak" program that allowed very limited use of a mouse on an iPad, but not enough use to interest me. I'm not familiar with what might be possible on an Android device with a mouse. In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. Yes, I agree. My android worked well as a GPS too! |
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On 6/27/13 4:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 6/27/13 1:54 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/27/13 10:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Some of you may recall I got an iPad III about a year ago, after selling my Mac laptop to a friend. I figured the iPad would be a decent replacement for the laptop I only used on occasion for work-related purposes while traveling. I did like the iPad, and thought it was more than sufficient for informal web browsing and to write or answer emails, and for entertainment, too, but the few times I needed a ?computer? handy while traveling to write or edit a text for work, I found it a colossal pain in the ass for two main reasons: 1. the ?file? system on these tablets is counterintuitive and you can?t simply store or retrieve files from folders the way you do on a ?real? computer. I recall this was true on Android OS systems, too. It?s a real hassle for someone like me who has dozens of text files he is juggling at one time, and for several clients, too. Storing working files in ?the cloud? has little appeal for me. It is true (somewhat) on an Android tablet as well, that is true. BUT, there is a very easy workaround for it, you can make your own folders similar to a windows folder. 2. though I had a nice ZAGG external keyboard and cover for the device, there was no way to use a mouse and therefore cutting, pasting, clipping, saving, inserting, deleting - the whole catastrophe involved in serious writing and editing - wasn?t working for me. Too much ?touchy, feely touchscreening? for my taste and patience. Hmm, you can use ANY Bluetooth mouse with my Android tablet, as well as any Bluetooth keyboard. There are also keyboards onto witch you dock the Android tablet. Another aspect of the device that annoyed me was that you really couldn?t see much of its screen out in daylight. This is pretty much true of all these portable devices. I?m not sure why it is, because even relatively inexpensive screen devices for boats - GPSs, fish finders, et cetera - are pretty much easily readable in sunlight. Well, same with a tablet. But, I am with you, while I LOVE my tablet and take it everywhere because it's much nicer to have a bigger screen than my Android phone, it doesn't come close to taking the place of ANY computer. Mine is a 7" Samsung, and what I really like about it, is it's small enough to hold in one hand, and I use a stylus with it. Much bigger screen than my phone, but if I were to use a 10" one, I'd just have a laptop! Yeah, I used a bluetooth docking keyboard with my iPad. But there was no facility to use a mouse the way you might with a laptop or desktop. That really annoyed me. The screen size was fine...it had what Apple calls a "retina" display, and it was sharp as a tack, even to my old eyes. In any event, the iPad is with its new owner, and I'm getting a new, very lightweight laptop from Apple, direct from the PRC and perhaps with chopsticks. I can go two ways with the keyboard, either a dock, where when you press it into the holder it actually uses the port, OR Bluetooth. And I can use a Bluetooth mouse as well, but it just doesn't operate like a windows computer, and that is a negative for me. But, as a device I love it, I use it for all of my appointment calender stuff, address and phone book, etc. Yeah, I've used the iPad I had with a bluetooth keyboard. There wasn't a capability I knew of to plug a keyboard directly into a device port. But I had no problems with the bluetooth keyboards I used. There was a "jailbreak" program that allowed very limited use of a mouse on an iPad, but not enough use to interest me. I'm not familiar with what might be possible on an Android device with a mouse. In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. Yes, I agree. My android worked well as a GPS too! The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive. That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop computer but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets. Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera. But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 2:47 PM, Eisboch wrote: I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. Apple does update its mainline OS every year or so, but not frequent enough to be annoying, and usually the upgrades are minor and incremental. The IO used on the phones and iPads seems to get a major update about every eight months. The updates can be installed easily. ------------------------------------------ I guess I am referring more to iTunes. It seems to be either updating or trying to get me to buy something constantly. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive. That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop computer but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets. Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera. But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is. ----------------------------------------- What kind of storage capacity do they offer? I think getting away from spinning hard drives is a great idea. |
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On 6/27/13 5:10 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 2:47 PM, Eisboch wrote: I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. Apple does update its mainline OS every year or so, but not frequent enough to be annoying, and usually the upgrades are minor and incremental. The IO used on the phones and iPads seems to get a major update about every eight months. The updates can be installed easily. ------------------------------------------ I guess I am referring more to iTunes. It seems to be either updating or trying to get me to buy something constantly. Indeed, iTunes does get updated more often. Apple uses the program for many purposes, including managing the music on various devices, selling music and videos, selling software, as the front end for software buying for its phones and tablets and increasingly as the way to distribute software for its desktop and laptop machines. Everytime there is a new or updated function, the suite gets an update. |
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On 6/27/13 5:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive. That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop computer but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets. Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera. But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is. ----------------------------------------- What kind of storage capacity do they offer? I think getting away from spinning hard drives is a great idea. The current laptops now offer storage SSDs from 128 GBs to 768 GBs, and you get get hybrid drives on the desktops that combine spinning drives and SSDs. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 5:13 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive. That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop computer but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets. Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera. But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is. ----------------------------------------- What kind of storage capacity do they offer? I think getting away from spinning hard drives is a great idea. The current laptops now offer storage SSDs from 128 GBs to 768 GBs, and you get get hybrid drives on the desktops that combine spinning drives and SSDs. --------------------------------------- Wow. That's more than enough for me. I don't permanently store a lot of stuff on my computer hard drives. I have a couple of external drives that I use to store stuff I want to keep but only hook them up and run them when I need them. I just checked this computer that I've had for about 3 years. Hard drive capacity is 450Gb of which 362Gb are free. I'll never come close to filling it up. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:12:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote: iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... It certainly is and Amazon is a lot easier to get music from than I-tunes. It is a one click thing. Of course using UseNet is even easier and a whole lot cheaper ;-) ----------------------------------------------------- What I do is a little different than just getting published music. There are tons of guitar instructional videos including full backing tracks (minus the melody) on YouTube. I do a search for a song I'd like to have and then record the audio from it using a simple but very good program called "Audacity". Audacity is a audio recording and editing program similar to Pro Tools except it's much simpler to use. Once I've recorded it, cleaned it up a bit (and even change the key it's in if I want) I export it as a mp3. From there I can transfer it to my music library on the iPad. The iPad (being so portable) is great to play the backing track from with it's audio output connected to a Fishman SoloAmp PA. Works great and keeps me off the streets. |
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On 6/27/13 6:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:12:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote: iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... It certainly is and Amazon is a lot easier to get music from than I-tunes. It is a one click thing. Of course using UseNet is even easier and a whole lot cheaper ;-) ----------------------------------------------------- What I do is a little different than just getting published music. There are tons of guitar instructional videos including full backing tracks (minus the melody) on YouTube. I do a search for a song I'd like to have and then record the audio from it using a simple but very good program called "Audacity". Audacity is a audio recording and editing program similar to Pro Tools except it's much simpler to use. Once I've recorded it, cleaned it up a bit (and even change the key it's in if I want) I export it as a mp3. From there I can transfer it to my music library on the iPad. The iPad (being so portable) is great to play the backing track from with it's audio output connected to a Fishman SoloAmp PA. Works great and keeps me off the streets. I don't go through any of that trouble, but there's certainly no problem importing tunes via iTunes or other software onto an Apple device that plays music. |
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On 6/27/2013 6:41 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 6:36 PM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:12:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote: iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... It certainly is and Amazon is a lot easier to get music from than I-tunes. It is a one click thing. Of course using UseNet is even easier and a whole lot cheaper ;-) ----------------------------------------------------- What I do is a little different than just getting published music. There are tons of guitar instructional videos including full backing tracks (minus the melody) on YouTube. I do a search for a song I'd like to have and then record the audio from it using a simple but very good program called "Audacity". Audacity is a audio recording and editing program similar to Pro Tools except it's much simpler to use. Once I've recorded it, cleaned it up a bit (and even change the key it's in if I want) I export it as a mp3. From there I can transfer it to my music library on the iPad. The iPad (being so portable) is great to play the backing track from with it's audio output connected to a Fishman SoloAmp PA. Works great and keeps me off the streets. I don't go through any of that trouble, but there's certainly no problem importing tunes via iTunes or other software onto an Apple device that plays music. You two are on completely different wavelengths. You don't have an inkling of what he's talking about. |
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:47:12 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 6/27/2013 6:41 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/27/13 6:36 PM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:12:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote: iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish I'd never done it. John (Gun Nut) H. My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar.... It certainly is and Amazon is a lot easier to get music from than I-tunes. It is a one click thing. Of course using UseNet is even easier and a whole lot cheaper ;-) ----------------------------------------------------- What I do is a little different than just getting published music. There are tons of guitar instructional videos including full backing tracks (minus the melody) on YouTube. I do a search for a song I'd like to have and then record the audio from it using a simple but very good program called "Audacity". Audacity is a audio recording and editing program similar to Pro Tools except it's much simpler to use. Once I've recorded it, cleaned it up a bit (and even change the key it's in if I want) I export it as a mp3. From there I can transfer it to my music library on the iPad. The iPad (being so portable) is great to play the backing track from with it's audio output connected to a Fishman SoloAmp PA. Works great and keeps me off the streets. I don't go through any of that trouble, but there's certainly no problem importing tunes via iTunes or other software onto an Apple device that plays music. You two are on completely different wavelengths. You don't have an inkling of what he's talking about. Hush. Don't tell him. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling, and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills. Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud". Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web page. Not a text do document file. |
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On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note. --------------------------------------- I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5 people at the same time. I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously. Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to transfer to the iPad listed device. I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore. Gave up. The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it. I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed. I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players. Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad. That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there. I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It used to be Windows that had that reputation. I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling, and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills. Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud". Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web page. Not a text do document file. The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email and if you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer. |
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"Califbill" wrote in message ... I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling, and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills. Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud". Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web page. Not a text do document file. ------------------------------------- Surprised you are satisfied with the pictures the iPad takes. Mine suck. I think it's an iPad2 or maybe a 3. Can't remember. My Droid cell phone takes much better pictures. But I rarely carry or use that either. I think I stopped evolving in the instant communications world. I like my laptops. I can turn them on and turn them off at will, nobody can call me when I want peace and quiet and I don't live in a world of some goofy tone or noise going off every 5 minutes with an incoming text or email. My wife has become an iPhone addict though. Stupid thing is constantly beeping, chirping or making some weird sound and her nose is constantly to the screen, communicating with someone. The other day it fell into our pool and I thought, "At last !!! Relief !!! The damn thing is dead !!!" No such luck. She put it in the sun for about 15 minutes and it works fine. Damn. I am going to design some kind of holder for it that attaches to her sun glasses. It will hold it about six inches from her nose. Maybe that will get a point across. |
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On 6/27/13 8:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:35:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/27/13 6:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:19:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Perhaps you are comparing your MP3 player to an Apple hardware device, such as an iPhone or iPad. In that case, you'd be wrong. I assume he is comparing it to an I-pod, that is appropriate. The I tunes software is free but the songs are not. I have an iPod. I can play music and videos on it. It has 55 GBs of content on it, and probably less than 100 tunes are tunes I bought and paid for via iTunes. The rest are CDs I own I uploaded to iTunes and MP3s from various sources, mostly free or near free. I manage it all easily via iTunes. Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on your I pod? I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3. It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell. I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to my server, not to Apple. |
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On 6/27/13 11:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:50:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/27/13 8:59 PM, wrote: Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on your I pod? I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3. It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell. I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to my server, not to Apple. What kind of "managing" do you have to do. I have subsets of mine scattered across a dozen platforms but it is all backed up on my mirrored set, a laptop and again on a working drive. The laptop is just my traveling machine but I keep all of the master drives synced via my network with File Synchronizer, a fairly simple but useful program. The last time I looked I had about 5,000 song cuts and another 1500 comedy cuts. It is about 33 gig. Some is very obscure stuff like Bessie Smith and Billie Holliday with comedy including some early Lenny Bruce, the old Shelley Berman and Bob Newhart albums. I have the original First Family album too. Have you heard the Stan Freberg "United States" album? That is comedy that still holds up 50 years later My wife's music, my music, our music, different collections, different versions, some on portable devices, all on the server. iTunes makes it easy for me. |
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On 6/28/2013 5:59 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 11:07 PM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:50:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/27/13 8:59 PM, wrote: Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on your I pod? I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3. It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell. I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to my server, not to Apple. What kind of "managing" do you have to do. I have subsets of mine scattered across a dozen platforms but it is all backed up on my mirrored set, a laptop and again on a working drive. The laptop is just my traveling machine but I keep all of the master drives synced via my network with File Synchronizer, a fairly simple but useful program. The last time I looked I had about 5,000 song cuts and another 1500 comedy cuts. It is about 33 gig. Some is very obscure stuff like Bessie Smith and Billie Holliday with comedy including some early Lenny Bruce, the old Shelley Berman and Bob Newhart albums. I have the original First Family album too. Have you heard the Stan Freberg "United States" album? That is comedy that still holds up 50 years later My wife's music, my music, our music, different collections, different versions, some on portable devices, all on the server. iTunes makes it easy for me. Thank god for $$$$Itunes$$$$ eh? |
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