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Califbill June 28th 13 01:21 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

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I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.


I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.

F.O.A.D. June 28th 13 01:29 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 
On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

---------------------------------------

I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.


I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.



The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email and
if you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer.

Eisboch[_8_] June 28th 13 01:43 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 


"Califbill" wrote in message
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I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when
traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in
Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some
stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The
Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB
port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint
printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a
web
page. Not a text do document file.

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Surprised you are satisfied with the pictures the iPad takes. Mine
suck. I think it's an iPad2 or maybe a 3. Can't remember.
My Droid cell phone takes much better pictures. But I rarely carry or
use that either. I think I stopped evolving in the instant
communications world.
I like my laptops. I can turn them on and turn them off at will,
nobody can call me when I want peace and quiet and I don't live in a
world of some goofy tone or noise going off every 5 minutes with an
incoming text or email. My wife has become an iPhone addict though.
Stupid thing is constantly beeping, chirping or making some weird
sound and her nose is constantly to the screen, communicating with
someone. The other day it fell into our pool and I thought, "At
last !!! Relief !!! The damn thing is dead !!!" No such luck.
She put it in the sun for about 15 minutes and it works fine. Damn.

I am going to design some kind of holder for it that attaches to her
sun glasses. It will hold it about six inches from her nose. Maybe
that will get a point across.


F.O.A.D. June 28th 13 02:50 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 
On 6/27/13 8:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:35:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/27/13 6:22 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:19:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Perhaps you are comparing your MP3 player to an Apple hardware device,
such as an iPhone or iPad. In that case, you'd be wrong.


I assume he is comparing it to an I-pod, that is appropriate.
The I tunes software is free but the songs are not.



I have an iPod. I can play music and videos on it. It has 55 GBs of
content on it, and probably less than 100 tunes are tunes I bought and
paid for via iTunes. The rest are CDs I own I uploaded to iTunes and
MP3s from various sources, mostly free or near free. I manage it all
easily via iTunes.


Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on
your I pod?
I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3.
It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell.


I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But
I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to
my server, not to Apple.

F.O.A.D. June 28th 13 02:52 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 
On 6/27/13 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:21:11 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.


My wife has an ap on her Galaxy Note that lets her print directly to
any network printer you can see on WiFi. (our house printer and that
big honker they have in her office)


I have a similar app on my iPhone.

F.O.A.D. June 28th 13 10:59 AM

Gadget Disappointment
 
On 6/27/13 11:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:50:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/27/13 8:59 PM,
wrote:


Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on
your I pod?
I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3.
It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell.


I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But
I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to
my server, not to Apple.


What kind of "managing" do you have to do. I have subsets of mine
scattered across a dozen platforms but it is all backed up on my
mirrored set, a laptop and again on a working drive.
The laptop is just my traveling machine but I keep all of the master
drives synced via my network with File Synchronizer, a fairly simple
but useful program. The last time I looked I had about 5,000 song cuts
and another 1500 comedy cuts. It is about 33 gig.
Some is very obscure stuff like Bessie Smith and Billie Holliday with
comedy including some early Lenny Bruce, the old Shelley Berman and
Bob Newhart albums. I have the original First Family album too.
Have you heard the Stan Freberg "United States" album? That is comedy
that still holds up 50 years later


My wife's music, my music, our music, different collections, different
versions, some on portable devices, all on the server. iTunes makes it
easy for me.

BAR[_2_] June 28th 13 12:50 PM

Gadget Disappointment
 
In article , says...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:21:11 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.


My wife has an ap on her Galaxy Note that lets her print directly to
any network printer you can see on WiFi. (our house printer and that
big honker they have in her office)


iOS devices will let you print to an Apple printer, if you have an Apple printer.

Apple wants you to use their Cloud and charge you a monthly fee to keep your data alive.

Hank©[_3_] June 28th 13 01:29 PM

Gadget Disappointment
 
On 6/28/2013 5:59 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 11:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:50:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/27/13 8:59 PM,
wrote:


Why should you need to upload a CD to I tunes just to get it back on
your I pod?
I have several ripper programs that will convert a CD directly to MP3.
It sounds like a cheap way for Apple to get music they can sell.


I don't have to do that. I can use third party software to do that. But
I manage my music through iTunes and the music I lift off my CDs goes to
my server, not to Apple.


What kind of "managing" do you have to do. I have subsets of mine
scattered across a dozen platforms but it is all backed up on my
mirrored set, a laptop and again on a working drive.
The laptop is just my traveling machine but I keep all of the master
drives synced via my network with File Synchronizer, a fairly simple
but useful program. The last time I looked I had about 5,000 song cuts
and another 1500 comedy cuts. It is about 33 gig.
Some is very obscure stuff like Bessie Smith and Billie Holliday with
comedy including some early Lenny Bruce, the old Shelley Berman and
Bob Newhart albums. I have the original First Family album too.
Have you heard the Stan Freberg "United States" album? That is comedy
that still holds up 50 years later


My wife's music, my music, our music, different collections, different
versions, some on portable devices, all on the server. iTunes makes it
easy for me.


Thank god for $$$$Itunes$$$$ eh?

iBoaterer[_3_] June 28th 13 03:56 PM

Gadget Disappointment
 
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/27/13 2:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:


I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain
in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software.
It used to be Windows that had that reputation.



Apple does update its mainline OS every year or so, but not frequent
enough to be annoying, and usually the upgrades are minor and
incremental.

The IO used on the phones and iPads seems to get a major update about
every eight months. The updates can be installed easily.

------------------------------------------

I guess I am referring more to iTunes. It seems to be either
updating or trying to get me to buy something constantly.


I hate iTunes. So much so, that I steer clear of iAnything.

iBoaterer[_3_] June 28th 13 03:57 PM

Gadget Disappointment
 
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...



The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive.
That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop
computer
but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets.

Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera.
But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is.

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What kind of storage capacity do they offer? I think getting away
from spinning hard drives is a great idea.


Absolutely, especially in a portable device like a laptop.


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