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here you go JPS...
On 6/27/13 6:23 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 3:59 PM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:42:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/27/13 11:29 AM, wrote: None of this is necessary, of course, if you come across a kid on the street carrying a soft drink and a bag of candy. Just shoot him. Make sure you are in Florida, of course. You keep leaving out the "punch in the nose" and "beat your head on the concrete" part There are no witnesses to testify that Martin inflicted those alleged injuries. --------------------------------------------------- The injuries are not alleged. Zimmerman's claim that they were inflicted by Martin is what is alleged. The police arrived, Zimmerman confessed to shooting Martin and, as I understand it, the injuries to Zimmerman were fresh at the time. I don't think you need a witness to make a case of self defense. That said though, if Zimmerman instigated the altercation by pursuing Martin and challenging or harassing him in any way, then I suspect his "stand your ground" defense will go out the window and he'll be found guilty. Just my guess. The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. I have a feeling Zimmerman is going to have to take the stand. That should be interesting. |
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here you go JPS...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message news 
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. |
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#4
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here you go JPS...
On 6/27/13 7:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. I'll bet the jury doesn't give a **** about that and probably won't understand it, either. There are many ways the two shirts could be up close and personal to each other, or separated by an inch. However the jury decides, that ain't gonna be a critical factor. I have a growing feeling that Zimmerman is going to take the stand. Hope so. The Florida stand your ground law is a piece of **** and perhaps a conviction will sink it. |
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here you go JPS...
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:32:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
The Florida stand your ground law is a piece of **** === [Not] The right to defend yourself is self evident. |
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#6
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here you go JPS...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 7:26 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. I'll bet the jury doesn't give a **** about that and probably won't understand it, either. There are many ways the two shirts could be up close and personal to each other, or separated by an inch. However the jury decides, that ain't gonna be a critical factor. I have a growing feeling that Zimmerman is going to take the stand. Hope so. The Florida stand your ground law is a piece of **** and perhaps a conviction will sink it. -------------------------------- Just to clarify, I am not talking about spaces between Martin's and Zimmerman's shirts. I am talking about a 1 to 2 inch space between Martin's shirt and his chest. That would be hard to exist if Martin was on his back on the ground with Zimmerman on top of him. But, if Martin was on top, leaning forward somewhat, the space would exist. That's powerful evidence if I were a jury member, absent any eye witness who knew with certainty who was on top. So far, there aren't any. |
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here you go JPS...
On 6/27/2013 7:32 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 7:26 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. I'll bet the jury doesn't give a **** about that and probably won't understand it, either. There are many ways the two shirts could be up close and personal to each other, or separated by an inch. However the jury decides, that ain't gonna be a critical factor. I have a growing feeling that Zimmerman is going to take the stand. Hope so. The Florida stand your ground law is a piece of **** and perhaps a conviction will sink it. I doubt if you could be seated on ANY jury. You're just too bat**** crazy, racist and over the edge leftist. |
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#9
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On 6/28/2013 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:44:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. If some stranger accosted me in the middle of the night for no reason and I had a chance, he'd get his ass kicked. So now the racist Martin did kick Zimmerman's ass. That is aggravated battery, a forcible felony and Zimmerman had every right to shoot him, Racist? I think the Cracker line shows that. Does anybody remember that it was Sharpton and his gang that turned this into an issue? Does anybody remember what Sharpton and Jackson do for a living. Especially Sharpton, a known witness coach...? |
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here you go JPS...
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says... On 6/28/2013 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:44:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
The witnesses so far seem to indicate that Zimmerman started the altercation, that the screaming seemed to be coming from Martin, that Zimmerman was on top of Martin after the gunshot, et cetera. ------------------------------------------- There's one piece of forensic evidence and also witness testimony regarding the color of the shirts or jackets that were worn that may convince the jury that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. The forensic evidence was introduced by the defense the first day of the trial and indicates that there was about an inch to two inches of space between Martin's shirt and where Zimmerman's bullet entered his body. It was determined by powder residue and burns. If Zimmerman was on top of Martin, it's unlikely any space would exist between Martin's shirt and his chest. However, if Martin was on top, leaning forward, the space would exist. I'll bet the defense focuses on that in their summation. If some stranger accosted me in the middle of the night for no reason and I had a chance, he'd get his ass kicked. So now the racist Martin did kick Zimmerman's ass. That is aggravated battery, a forcible felony and Zimmerman had every right to shoot him, Racist? I think the Cracker line shows that. Does anybody remember that it was Sharpton and his gang that turned this into an issue? Does anybody remember what Sharpton and Jackson do for a living. Especially Sharpton, a known witness coach...? You think some vigilante accosting and shooting someone isn't an "issue"???? |
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