On 6/18/13 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

In the case of the Saturn, one of the displays yields an accurate
reading but the others don't compute. My guess is that the computer
software went hooky falooky. My first response might be to reload the
software and then replace the speedo control module if that didn't solve
the problem.

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My response is to say the hell with it and go for having the only Saturn
on the planet with over a million miles, kilometers or whatever the heck
it is reading on it.


Could be worse. The car could be from Uranus instead of Saturn.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 6/18/13 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

In the case of the Saturn, one of the displays yields an accurate
reading but the others don't compute. My guess is that the computer
software went hooky falooky. My first response might be to reload
the
software and then replace the speedo control module if that didn't
solve
the problem.

-----------------------------------------

My response is to say the hell with it and go for having the only
Saturn
on the planet with over a million miles, kilometers or whatever the
heck
it is reading on it.


Could be worse. The car could be from Uranus instead of Saturn.

-----------------------------

Even worse, we could still be living in Jupiter.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...


But, at least I know the gas gauge and the speedometer readings are
correct.

Now you should see if the speedometer reads correctly as well, don't
want a ticket! Just go 60 mph (96.56kph). It should take one minute to
go one mile.

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Did that. It reads fine So does the trip odometer. It's only the
total mileage odometer that reads crazy.

I am getting to the bottom of this, only because it has me very
curious.
There are two plastic gears buried in the instrument cluster. The
gears apparently rotate mini tachometers that send pulses to the BSM
computer which in turn calculates the mileage displays.

One gear (the smaller of the two) is for the trip odometer which
reads in tenths of kilometers. The larger gear is for the total
mileage odometer which reads whole kilometers only.

My guess is that the gears are fine, simply because both displays
increase in readings while driving. The problem has to be either with
whatever the tach unit is (generating too many pulses) or some
component in the computer itself that is counting too many pulses.

This is about as far as I'll take this investigation. I have no
desire to rip apart the instrument cluster or replace the BSM
computer. Car only cost $2,500.
I really don't care if the mileage reading is correct or not as long
as the speedometer and gas gauges are working, which they are.

BTW ... I've found several cautious on car forums that you should
never "reset" the trip odometer while the car is in motion. It should
only be reset while parked or stopped. Apparently the design of the
odometer/trip odometer system that is in the Saturn is common to those
in cars of many manufacturers.
The small, plastic gear is prone to being stripped if you reset the
reading while it is spinning.

On 6/18/13 8:03 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/18/13 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

In the case of the Saturn, one of the displays yields an accurate
reading but the others don't compute. My guess is that the computer
software went hooky falooky. My first response might be to reload the
software and then replace the speedo control module if that didn't solve
the problem.

-----------------------------------------

My response is to say the hell with it and go for having the only Saturn
on the planet with over a million miles, kilometers or whatever the heck
it is reading on it.


Could be worse. The car could be from Uranus instead of Saturn.

-----------------------------

Even worse, we could still be living in Jupiter.



Drove though it, never spent a moment there beyond that. My mom stayed
with a friend in Jupiter when she moved from New Haven while her condo
in the Palm Beach area was being repainted.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 6/18/13 8:03 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/18/13 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

In the case of the Saturn, one of the displays yields an accurate
reading but the others don't compute. My guess is that the computer
software went hooky falooky. My first response might be to reload
the
software and then replace the speedo control module if that didn't
solve
the problem.

-----------------------------------------

My response is to say the hell with it and go for having the only
Saturn
on the planet with over a million miles, kilometers or whatever the
heck
it is reading on it.


Could be worse. The car could be from Uranus instead of Saturn.

-----------------------------

Even worse, we could still be living in Jupiter.



Drove though it, never spent a moment there beyond that. My mom stayed
with a friend in Jupiter when she moved from New Haven while her condo
in the Palm Beach area was being repainted.

----------------------------------------------

Like most of Florida, Jupiter is over-developed with condos along
the immediate coast line. Had a number of fun and interesting bars
and restaurants though, especially along the ICW. Our place was
about 6-8 miles inland in a gated community, pretty much isolated from
the rest of the world. The community was developed on 1000 acres in
the middle of nowhere and had four major sections, dedicated to
specific interests. One had a couple of golf courses, another had a
full blown working runway for aviation enthusiasts and two were
dedicated to equestrian activities. Of the two equestrian sections,
one had lots that averaged 20 acres each and the other (the section
we were in) had lots that were typically 5-7 acres.

I enjoyed spending the winters there. The weather was absolutely
spectacular with low humidity and temperatures typically in the
mid-70's in the middle of February. But I don't think I could have
handled summers. Too humid.

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


But, at least I know the gas gauge and the speedometer readings are
correct.

Now you should see if the speedometer reads correctly as well, don't
want a ticket! Just go 60 mph (96.56kph). It should take one minute to
go one mile.

----------------------------------------------

Did that. It reads fine So does the trip odometer. It's only the
total mileage odometer that reads crazy.

Now that's just strange as hell to me!

I am getting to the bottom of this, only because it has me very
curious.
There are two plastic gears buried in the instrument cluster. The
gears apparently rotate mini tachometers that send pulses to the BSM
computer which in turn calculates the mileage displays.

Wait, this IS an electronic display, right? I wonder why it has
gears.....

One gear (the smaller of the two) is for the trip odometer which
reads in tenths of kilometers. The larger gear is for the total
mileage odometer which reads whole kilometers only.

My guess is that the gears are fine, simply because both displays
increase in readings while driving. The problem has to be either with
whatever the tach unit is (generating too many pulses) or some
component in the computer itself that is counting too many pulses.

This is about as far as I'll take this investigation. I have no
desire to rip apart the instrument cluster or replace the BSM
computer. Car only cost $2,500.
I really don't care if the mileage reading is correct or not as long
as the speedometer and gas gauges are working, which they are.

BTW ... I've found several cautious on car forums that you should
never "reset" the trip odometer while the car is in motion. It should
only be reset while parked or stopped. Apparently the design of the
odometer/trip odometer system that is in the Saturn is common to those
in cars of many manufacturers.
The small, plastic gear is prone to being stripped if you reset the
reading while it is spinning.

Interesting. Must be some kind of weird hybrid ******* type of thing.

On 6/18/2013 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

In the case of the Saturn, one of the displays yields an accurate
reading but the others don't compute. My guess is that the computer
software went hooky falooky. My first response might be to reload the
software and then replace the speedo control module if that didn't solve
the problem.

-----------------------------------------

My response is to say the hell with it and go for having the only Saturn
on the planet with over a million miles, kilometers or whatever the heck
it is reading on it.


May I suggest taping a KMH to MPH chart on your steering wheel.;-)

On 6/18/2013 12:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:47:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Like most of Florida, Jupiter is over-developed with condos along
the immediate coast line. Had a number of fun and interesting bars
and restaurants though, especially along the ICW. Our place was
about 6-8 miles inland in a gated community, pretty much isolated from
the rest of the world. The community was developed on 1000 acres in
the middle of nowhere and had four major sections, dedicated to
specific interests. One had a couple of golf courses, another had a
full blown working runway for aviation enthusiasts and two were
dedicated to equestrian activities. Of the two equestrian sections,
one had lots that averaged 20 acres each and the other (the section
we were in) had lots that were typically 5-7 acres.

I enjoyed spending the winters there. The weather was absolutely
spectacular with low humidity and temperatures typically in the
mid-70's in the middle of February. But I don't think I could have
handled summers. Too humid.


That is why I like the west coast. There are long stretches of the
Gulf coast with no development at all.
Close to me I have 2 beach parks that are about 3 miles each of open
beach. The one closest to me is pretty much deserted for 8 months a
year. Unless someone wants to walk a mile or so, a lot of it is boat
access only.
We also have miles of undisturbed estuary and mangrove forests.

Being from DC originally, heat and humidity don't really bother me
that much. There are plenty of summer days when we are cooler than
what they report in the North East.
I would not trade my weather for the sleet and freezing rain I had in
DC.


I did my mileage average during the start of the race season so about
half city, half highway, a third with a trailer... I did about 700 miles
and averaged about 17 per gallon with the 3.7 Jeep Liberty.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:23:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


But, at least I know the gas gauge and the speedometer readings are
correct.

Now you should see if the speedometer reads correctly as well, don't
want a ticket! Just go 60 mph (96.56kph). It should take one minute to
go one mile.

----------------------------------------------

Did that. It reads fine So does the trip odometer. It's only the
total mileage odometer that reads crazy.

I am getting to the bottom of this, only because it has me very
curious.
There are two plastic gears buried in the instrument cluster. The
gears apparently rotate mini tachometers that send pulses to the BSM
computer which in turn calculates the mileage displays.

One gear (the smaller of the two) is for the trip odometer which
reads in tenths of kilometers. The larger gear is for the total
mileage odometer which reads whole kilometers only.

My guess is that the gears are fine, simply because both displays
increase in readings while driving. The problem has to be either with
whatever the tach unit is (generating too many pulses) or some
component in the computer itself that is counting too many pulses.

This is about as far as I'll take this investigation. I have no
desire to rip apart the instrument cluster or replace the BSM
computer. Car only cost $2,500.
I really don't care if the mileage reading is correct or not as long
as the speedometer and gas gauges are working, which they are.

BTW ... I've found several cautious on car forums that you should
never "reset" the trip odometer while the car is in motion. It should
only be reset while parked or stopped. Apparently the design of the
odometer/trip odometer system that is in the Saturn is common to those
in cars of many manufacturers.
The small, plastic gear is prone to being stripped if you reset the
reading while it is spinning.


Thanks. Wonder if that's true for Chevy trucks also. Haven't heard about it.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

In article , says...

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:23:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


But, at least I know the gas gauge and the speedometer readings are
correct.

Now you should see if the speedometer reads correctly as well, don't
want a ticket! Just go 60 mph (96.56kph). It should take one minute to
go one mile.

----------------------------------------------

Did that. It reads fine So does the trip odometer. It's only the
total mileage odometer that reads crazy.

I am getting to the bottom of this, only because it has me very
curious.
There are two plastic gears buried in the instrument cluster. The
gears apparently rotate mini tachometers that send pulses to the BSM
computer which in turn calculates the mileage displays.

One gear (the smaller of the two) is for the trip odometer which
reads in tenths of kilometers. The larger gear is for the total
mileage odometer which reads whole kilometers only.

My guess is that the gears are fine, simply because both displays
increase in readings while driving. The problem has to be either with
whatever the tach unit is (generating too many pulses) or some
component in the computer itself that is counting too many pulses.

This is about as far as I'll take this investigation. I have no
desire to rip apart the instrument cluster or replace the BSM
computer. Car only cost $2,500.
I really don't care if the mileage reading is correct or not as long
as the speedometer and gas gauges are working, which they are.

BTW ... I've found several cautious on car forums that you should
never "reset" the trip odometer while the car is in motion. It should
only be reset while parked or stopped. Apparently the design of the
odometer/trip odometer system that is in the Saturn is common to those
in cars of many manufacturers.
The small, plastic gear is prone to being stripped if you reset the
reading while it is spinning.


Thanks. Wonder if that's true for Chevy trucks also. Haven't heard about it.

John H.

I recently had my fuel pump replaced in my F-150 SuperCrew. Now the gas gauge reads empty
when I have about 4 gallons left and the low fuel light comes on at 5 gallons left.