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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11. It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the US, It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we should be looking at on this BB. If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I did. Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400 Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta (who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black male in our society. He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people thought like that. When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied them. Absolutely. And when you consider the lack of opportunity, consider the contributions made by the Democrats in many of the most crime-ridden cities: Interesting........ City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29..9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 5. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Democrat mayors. Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961; Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954; Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984; Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989; Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor; St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949; El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor; Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908; Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952; Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907. Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/13/2013 7:31 AM, John H wrote:
JPS Says- Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta (who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black male in our society. He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people thought like that. What was his vision. Television, ankle bracelets? What? When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. The oportunity is there. Statistics prove it. 10:1 ratio B on B vs other It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied them. What we supplied them? Absolutely. And when you consider the lack of opportunity, consider the contributions made by the Democrats in many of the most crime-ridden cities: Interesting........ City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29..9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 5. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Democrat mayors. Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961; Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954; Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984; Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989; Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor; St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949; El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor; Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908; Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952; Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907. Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! "Foster poverty-go democratic". Hey, that would fit nicely on a bumper sticker. |
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:31:44 -0400, John H
wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11. It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the US, It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we should be looking at on this BB. If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I did. Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400 Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta (who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black male in our society. He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people thought like that. When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied them. Absolutely. And when you consider the lack of opportunity, consider the contributions made by the Democrats in many of the most crime-ridden cities: Interesting........ City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29..9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 5. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Democrat mayors. Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961; Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954; Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984; Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989; Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor; St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949; El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor; Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908; Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952; Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907. Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' John H. Can't believe the % rate is any better out in the country where there's little to earn and meth heads abound. |
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote:
When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. ==== Lack of opportunity is due to a lack of marketable skills. Lack of marketable skills is due to lack of strong family role models and support. Lack of strong family role models and support is due to a cultural issue. Until someone can solve the unwed mother issue and the "Uncle Tom" issue, nothing is going to change. Ebonics and a 6th grade education does not cut the mustard in the real world. |
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:45:58 -0700, jps wrote:
Can't believe the % rate is any better out in the country where there's little to earn and meth heads abound. ==== Same problem, different race, different location. |
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:49:48 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote: When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. ==== Lack of opportunity is due to a lack of marketable skills. Lack of marketable skills is due to lack of strong family role models and support. Lack of strong family role models and support is due to a cultural issue. Until someone can solve the unwed mother issue and the "Uncle Tom" issue, nothing is going to change. Ebonics and a 6th grade education does not cut the mustard in the real world. Baloney. |
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:51:19 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:49:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote: When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. ==== Lack of opportunity is due to a lack of marketable skills. Lack of marketable skills is due to lack of strong family role models and support. Lack of strong family role models and support is due to a cultural issue. Until someone can solve the unwed mother issue and the "Uncle Tom" issue, nothing is going to change. Ebonics and a 6th grade education does not cut the mustard in the real world. Baloney. ==== If you think that's baloney then you are not fully conversant with alll of the facts or you are in denial. |
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On 6/14/13 10:13 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:51:19 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:49:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:06:46 -0700, jps wrote: When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. ==== Lack of opportunity is due to a lack of marketable skills. Lack of marketable skills is due to lack of strong family role models and support. Lack of strong family role models and support is due to a cultural issue. Until someone can solve the unwed mother issue and the "Uncle Tom" issue, nothing is going to change. Ebonics and a 6th grade education does not cut the mustard in the real world. Baloney. ==== If you think that's baloney then you are not fully conversant with alll of the facts or you are in denial. Lack of marketable skills certainly is a chiller in terms of getting a job. Your pinning the lack of those skills on "lack of a strong family role model and support" due to "cultural issues," "unwed mother issue, "Uncle Tom" issue and "ebonics" are overly general and put the cart before the horse. The root causes are hundreds of years of racism and poverty. |
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On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. |
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says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. |
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On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. |
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says... On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish out of from time to time. |
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On 6/14/13 2:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish out of from time to time. A. I was unaware you had such a boat and, B. therefore, I haven't made fun of it. I've fished for smallmouth bass from a canoe with no motor. Why would I "make fun" of someone who fishes from a jon boat? Stop looking for arguments, eh? |
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says... On 6/14/13 2:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish out of from time to time. A. I was unaware you had such a boat and, B. therefore, I haven't made fun of it. I've fished for smallmouth bass from a canoe with no motor. Why would I "make fun" of someone who fishes from a jon boat? Stop looking for arguments, eh? You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but I'm a lot more handsome! http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7 |
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On 6/14/13 2:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 6/14/13 2:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish out of from time to time. A. I was unaware you had such a boat and, B. therefore, I haven't made fun of it. I've fished for smallmouth bass from a canoe with no motor. Why would I "make fun" of someone who fishes from a jon boat? Stop looking for arguments, eh? You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but I'm a lot more handsome! http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7 I made fun of Scotty's crappy paint job on that boat, if I recall, and the way he let it deteriorate. I did admire the boarding ladder he built for it. But that's all water under the seats. |
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On 6/14/2013 2:01 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse outboard and fishes for stripers. Um, I do.... Try a 12 foot boat with a 3 horse.... and I love stripers. |
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On 6/14/2013 11:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but I'm a lot more handsome! http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7 I've got one of those I use for fishing steelhead in the lower Deschutes. I've carried it upstream a couple of miles and floated down through some mild class 1-2 rapids. It's a lot of fun and provides access to good spots that can't be reached from the bank. Several tips if you plan on using it in any significant current or rapids. Don't even bother with the foot flippers. Hand paddles of significant size are the way to go. I cut a kayak paddle in two and tethered each to a ring on the float tube with a short cord. If you have to carry it any distance I find that balancing the backrest on my head and letting the tube hang over my back is easier then carrying it by hand. I did get a bad stiff neck doing that several days in a row however. Floating downstream after sunset on a warm summer evening after a good day fishing just can't be beat in my book. |
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On 6/14/2013 11:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote: You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but I'm a lot more handsome! http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7 I've got one of those I use for fishing steelhead in the lower Deschutes. I've carried it upstream a couple of miles and floated down through some mild class 1-2 rapids. It's a lot of fun and provides access to good spots that can't be reached from the bank. Several tips if you plan on using it in any significant current or rapids. Don't even bother with the foot flippers. Hand paddles of significant size are the way to go. I cut a kayak paddle in two and tethered each to a ring on the float tube with a short cord. If you have to carry it any distance I find that balancing the backrest on my head and letting the tube hang over my back is easier then carrying it by hand. I did get a bad stiff neck doing that several days in a row however. Floating downstream after sunset on a warm summer evening after a good day fishing just can't be beat in my book. Thanks for the advice! There are a lot of places here that hold beautiful big trout that get spooked too easily to even think about using my jon boat to get to, and up on the lake I could take it on my bass boat and launch into the small quiet coves for some bass fun! |
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:02:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:23:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Seriously Don... Get to craigs list and get a 6 hp rototiller... Remove the blade and have sombody bolt or weld a ball on the thing... Just find one for a couple hundred bucks that is self propelled and look up anybody locally with a set of end wrenches and a welder, another 35 dollars and maybe even a case of beer and you are golden... I was really thinking you could make something. Use something like a garage door opener motor for power. They are usually gear head with a pretty good reduction and they end up with a sprocket chain drive. These show up at garage sales and on Craigs List for $20 or less. Put a big sprocket gear on the wheel drive to get a little more mechanical advantage. Then is just a question of fabricating the dolly. Garage door opener won't work, they won't pull that hard before the safety mechanism cuts it out. I've got a 16' wooden door that is heavy as hell, with two torsion springs to make it seem light enough to easily pick up. One of the springs broke and the opener was useless. You can hit your garage door opener, and when it's going up, grab the door and it doesn't take very much effort at all to stop the opener. Springs are adjusted properly when you can raise the door with the opener disengaged and where ever you stop the door, it should stay. I would just jumper out those switches ------------------- Dang, Harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...e/winches.html Less than 1/2 the price of an old mechanical winch. |
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11. It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the US, It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we should be looking at on this BB. If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I did. Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400 Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta (who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black male in our society. He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people thought like that. When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied them. ------------------- They have opportunity! The blacks in the innercity seem to think education is bad. Chicago, has what a 70% black male school dropout rate? Without an education, they are not even qualified to ask " Want fries with that?". What is sad is when we were in Soweto earlier this year, the uprising was started because the black children were being prevented from having an education! Was not because of living conditions, lack of meaningful jobs, but because they were going to be required to be taught in Afrikan's (15th century Dutch). |
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Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
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... In article , says... On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back. Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with sal****er. Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun. But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests. -------------- T do not ever remember Gretwell mocking a small boat. Heck, I ocean fish at times out of Hobie Outback. More comfortable trolling for salmon out of the Jetcraft. |
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On 6/16/2013 6:03 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. --------------------- I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8 kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see if the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough to empty out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but only about 20 gallons in the tank. You need to use it more... ;-) If you just filled it with fresh or added another 20 gallons or so it should be OK. I've never run my T-8 dry and it's been fine since new although the longest it's sat was maybe 8-10 weeks and I add Stabil before idle periods. Today a neighbor asked if I had a chain-saw so I pulled it out and found a note I'd left in the case that said "last used 11/19/07". I never thought it would run on the little bit of old gas in the tank but it fired up after ~6 pulls...! |
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On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:29:09 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:49:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message . .. ------------------------ Been following your progress on the "Wayne Spot". Looks like you are well away from any effects of "Andrea". Getting to be a dicey area down there this time of year. ==== We altered our return route to keep us out of harms way. Right now we're in the mid-Exumas (eastern Bahamas), getting some rain but the wind is manageable. Storm is already going up the coast at this point but some of the outer bands are still swirling around here. I had originally planned to go up Old Bahamas Channel, off the Cuban coast, directly to the Keys. Unfortunately that would have taken us directly towards the storm and with no place to hide. Discretion being the better part of valor, we opted for the more conventional route. It has been cloudy and raining here for over 2 weeks with a couple days off last weekend and they are predicting the same next week. We may get a decent Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning before it starts again. Andrea was a non event here. It was raining before and it is still raining. We didn't really get a dry season this year. ------------------- We are still under normal on rainfall. Probably will not get anymore for 4 or 5 months. |
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"thumper" wrote in message ...
On 6/16/2013 6:03 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote: Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. You have to read it this way: "If I had a boat, I would buy a __________." ... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?. --------------------- I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8 kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see if the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough to empty out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but only about 20 gallons in the tank. You need to use it more... ;-) If you just filled it with fresh or added another 20 gallons or so it should be OK. I've never run my T-8 dry and it's been fine since new although the longest it's sat was maybe 8-10 weeks and I add Stabil before idle periods. Today a neighbor asked if I had a chain-saw so I pulled it out and found a note I'd left in the case that said "last used 11/19/07". I never thought it would run on the little bit of old gas in the tank but it fired up after ~6 pulls...! ------------------- Been a dry spell on using the boat. Fell off the roof end of june, which cut down on boating for a lot of the summer, broken wrist and then we went to Yellowstone with friends for a couple weeks. Took the Kayak and used that. This year we have traveled a lot. South Africa for 3+ weeks and then St. Thomas and then Costa Rica. Life is tough sometimes. Was going out this week, but new window install was postponed until today and tomorrow. Plus F'n wind is up. Ocean is forecast 3-5 wind waves on top of 8' swells. |
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On 6/18/2013 8:16 PM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ... On 6/16/2013 6:03 PM, Califbill wrote: I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8 kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see if the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough to empty out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but only about 20 gallons in the tank. You need to use it more... ;-) If you just filled it with fresh or added another 20 gallons or so it should be OK. I've never run my T-8 dry and it's been fine since new although the longest it's sat was maybe 8-10 weeks and I add Stabil before idle periods. Today a neighbor asked if I had a chain-saw so I pulled it out and found a note I'd left in the case that said "last used 11/19/07". I never thought it would run on the little bit of old gas in the tank but it fired up after ~6 pulls...! ------------------- Been a dry spell on using the boat. Fell off the roof end of june, which cut down on boating for a lot of the summer, broken wrist and then we went to Yellowstone with friends for a couple weeks. Took the Kayak and used that. This year we have traveled a lot. South Africa for 3+ weeks and then St. Thomas and then Costa Rica. Life is tough sometimes. Was going out this week, but new window install was postponed until today and tomorrow. Plus F'n wind is up. Ocean is forecast 3-5 wind waves on top of 8' swells. Ouch, sorry to hear about the fall but the travels sure sound interesting. Maybe there's a nice responsible young family in the area that would be willing to put a few hours on the clock for you every month or so. I'm bound and determined to wear mine out before I die. |
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On 6/18/13 11:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:29:09 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:49:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message . .. ------------------------ Been following your progress on the "Wayne Spot". Looks like you are well away from any effects of "Andrea". Getting to be a dicey area down there this time of year. ==== We altered our return route to keep us out of harms way. Right now we're in the mid-Exumas (eastern Bahamas), getting some rain but the wind is manageable. Storm is already going up the coast at this point but some of the outer bands are still swirling around here. I had originally planned to go up Old Bahamas Channel, off the Cuban coast, directly to the Keys. Unfortunately that would have taken us directly towards the storm and with no place to hide. Discretion being the better part of valor, we opted for the more conventional route. It has been cloudy and raining here for over 2 weeks with a couple days off last weekend and they are predicting the same next week. We may get a decent Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning before it starts again. Andrea was a non event here. It was raining before and it is still raining. We didn't really get a dry season this year. ------------------- We are still under normal on rainfall. Probably will not get anymore for 4 or 5 months. Move out of the disaster area known as California. ------------------ Unfortunately, I like the area. Born and raised in the Berkeley area. I love California. So much to see, so much to do, natural and manmade. San Francisco and environs are great places to visit and live, in the city itself and north and south of it, and I'm fond of San Diego, too. Like every place, it has its downsides. |
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"thumper" wrote in message ...
On 6/18/2013 8:16 PM, Califbill wrote: "thumper" wrote in message ... On 6/16/2013 6:03 PM, Califbill wrote: I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8 kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see if the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough to empty out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but only about 20 gallons in the tank. You need to use it more... ;-) If you just filled it with fresh or added another 20 gallons or so it should be OK. I've never run my T-8 dry and it's been fine since new although the longest it's sat was maybe 8-10 weeks and I add Stabil before idle periods. Today a neighbor asked if I had a chain-saw so I pulled it out and found a note I'd left in the case that said "last used 11/19/07". I never thought it would run on the little bit of old gas in the tank but it fired up after ~6 pulls...! ------------------- Been a dry spell on using the boat. Fell off the roof end of june, which cut down on boating for a lot of the summer, broken wrist and then we went to Yellowstone with friends for a couple weeks. Took the Kayak and used that. This year we have traveled a lot. South Africa for 3+ weeks and then St. Thomas and then Costa Rica. Life is tough sometimes. Was going out this week, but new window install was postponed until today and tomorrow. Plus F'n wind is up. Ocean is forecast 3-5 wind waves on top of 8' swells. Ouch, sorry to hear about the fall but the travels sure sound interesting. Maybe there's a nice responsible young family in the area that would be willing to put a few hours on the clock for you every month or so. I'm bound and determined to wear mine out before I die. ----------------- I have had to repower because of the hours I have run over the years. The boat was originally built in 1991. I bought it in '95. Repowered in about 2001, repainted twice now. Is 3/16 Aluminum and should last for a lot more years. |
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On 6/20/2013 11:05 AM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ... Ouch, sorry to hear about the fall but the travels sure sound interesting. Maybe there's a nice responsible young family in the area that would be willing to put a few hours on the clock for you every month or so. I'm bound and determined to wear mine out before I die. ----------------- I have had to repower because of the hours I have run over the years. The boat was originally built in 1991. I bought it in '95. Repowered in about 2001, repainted twice now. Is 3/16 Aluminum and should last for a lot more years. I had mine built in 2000 but only have about 800 hours on the main engine. I hate to think how many hours have been spent anchored up and trolling on the kicker. The .25" bottom has some pretty good dings and creases and as far as I'm concerned the paint can slowly wear off. It does need a new top pretty soon but it's a utility boat at this point. No worries... How many hours did you get before the re-power? |
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