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Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
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TS ANDREA
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:23:59 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:11:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:49:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message .. . ------------------------ Been following your progress on the "Wayne Spot". Looks like you are well away from any effects of "Andrea". Getting to be a dicey area down there this time of year. ==== We altered our return route to keep us out of harms way. Right now we're in the mid-Exumas (eastern Bahamas), getting some rain but the wind is manageable. Storm is already going up the coast at this point but some of the outer bands are still swirling around here. I had originally planned to go up Old Bahamas Channel, off the Cuban coast, directly to the Keys. Unfortunately that would have taken us directly towards the storm and with no place to hide. Discretion being the better part of valor, we opted for the more conventional route. Do you plan your trips so that every night you'll be in safe harbor? ==== Ideally yes but it is not always possible. We end up making all night runs once in a while and have even made a few 2 1/2 day runs but always with a good reason. You have some situations where you can't cover the needed distance between ports during the number of daylight hours available. Rather than arrive at an unfamiliar port in the dark, the sensible thing to do is leave in the afternoon, run all night offshore, and arrive after sunrise next day. There have been other situations where we had a lot of distance to cover with problematic weather conditions. When a good weather window does open up it pays to run with it for a few days. My wife and I are not getting younger however and multi-day runs do take a lot of stamina. Sounds like you need a little crew (to help eat the mahi mahi). John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
TS ANDREA
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 19:12:45 -0400, John H
wrote: Do you plan your trips so that every night you'll be in safe harbor? ==== Ideally yes but it is not always possible. We end up making all night runs once in a while and have even made a few 2 1/2 day runs but always with a good reason. You have some situations where you can't cover the needed distance between ports during the number of daylight hours available. Rather than arrive at an unfamiliar port in the dark, the sensible thing to do is leave in the afternoon, run all night offshore, and arrive after sunrise next day. There have been other situations where we had a lot of distance to cover with problematic weather conditions. When a good weather window does open up it pays to run with it for a few days. My wife and I are not getting younger however and multi-day runs do take a lot of stamina. Sounds like you need a little crew (to help eat the mahi mahi). ==== We've still got some Mahi in the freezer, come on down. My wife cooked the last of the Skipjack Tuna for dinner tonight - chunked it up and stir fried with rice, various veggies, soy sauce and ginger. Very tasty. |
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On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 20:33:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 19:12:45 -0400, John H wrote: Do you plan your trips so that every night you'll be in safe harbor? ==== Ideally yes but it is not always possible. We end up making all night runs once in a while and have even made a few 2 1/2 day runs but always with a good reason. You have some situations where you can't cover the needed distance between ports during the number of daylight hours available. Rather than arrive at an unfamiliar port in the dark, the sensible thing to do is leave in the afternoon, run all night offshore, and arrive after sunrise next day. There have been other situations where we had a lot of distance to cover with problematic weather conditions. When a good weather window does open up it pays to run with it for a few days. My wife and I are not getting younger however and multi-day runs do take a lot of stamina. Sounds like you need a little crew (to help eat the mahi mahi). ==== We've still got some Mahi in the freezer, come on down. My wife cooked the last of the Skipjack Tuna for dinner tonight - chunked it up and stir fried with rice, various veggies, soy sauce and ginger. Very tasty. There goes my cook's job! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
On 6/8/2013 11:20 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:16:01 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: On 6/5/2013 2:53 PM, wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:33:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: This thing would be eco friendly and should last a lifetime. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ472874840 I move my boat around with the golf cart That'll work! I move my around the back with my lawn tractor. That is how I mow under the boat (pull it out with the lawn tractor, mow and push it back). Talking to Tim this morning.. He suggested one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...result?q=winch mounted to the front of the trailer. Run a cable to your boat battery or outlet. Hook the other end where ever you want to go... Saw something a bit bizarre at Princess Auto yesterday and had to ask the clerk how it worked. Seems it's a combination tongue jack and dolly. Has two small 8"?? wheels with a chain wrapped around a sprocket on the axle and leading back to a crank handle. You can use it to raise & lower or to crawl along. I'm sure you'd be tired cranking the handle before you got two far. Did you ever answer why you don't back it in with the truck. Another option if you are not comfortable backing is a couple hundred bucks and put a hitch on the front of your truck... Some say it's easier to drive trailers around, could work... |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects
it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
On 6/8/2013 1:04 PM, True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Are you planning on bring it in backwards, or are you gonna' spin it at the end of the drive? Still might take a look at a front hitch. They make hidden ones and you would avoid not being able to see where you are putting the trailer... You should be able to see enough facing the boat as opposed to backwards out the back window... |
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On 6/8/2013 1:04 PM, True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. |
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True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:16:01 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: On 6/5/2013 2:53 PM, wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:33:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: This thing would be eco friendly and should last a lifetime. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ472874840 I move my boat around with the golf cart That'll work! I move my around the back with my lawn tractor. That is how I mow under the boat (pull it out with the lawn tractor, mow and push it back). Talking to Tim this morning.. He suggested one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...result?q=winch mounted to the front of the trailer. Run a cable to your boat battery or outlet. Hook the other end where ever you want to go... Saw something a bit bizarre at Princess Auto yesterday and had to ask the clerk how it worked. Seems it's a combination tongue jack and dolly. Has two small 8"?? wheels with a chain wrapped around a sprocket on the axle and leading back to a crank handle. You can use it to raise & lower or to crawl along. I'm sure you'd be tired cranking the handle before you got two far. "two far"? Please refrain from posting your spellcheck posts until you are capable of posting perfectly every time. |
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True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife? |
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: This thing would be eco friendly and should last a lifetime. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ472874840 Holy crap. You got 100 entries on this thread. Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. |
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On Jun 8, 1:09*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 6/8/2013 1:04 PM, True North wrote: Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Are you planning on bring it in backwards, or are you gonna' spin it at the end of the drive? Still might take a look at a front hitch. They make hidden ones and you would avoid not being able to see where you are putting the trailer... You should be able to see enough facing the boat as opposed to backwards out the back window... Cockhole Donnie is just too ****ing stupid to know how to backup anything. |
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On Jun 9, 2:31*am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: This thing would be eco friendly and should last a lifetime. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...ft-parts-trail... Holy crap. *You got 100 entries on this thread. Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. ....and once again, jps...you add NOTHING of ANY use...**** off. |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
I backed you up pretty darn quick when I travelled to your neck of the woods last September.
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That old heavy duty winch was in jest, but if there was a suitable, reasonable alternative I'd be interested.
The $400 model I first considered might be the most practical, assuming the made in China dolly is reliable. |
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On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:45:00 -0400, Earl wrote:
True North wrote: Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife? I've got one across the street that I use. She's about 26, great body, beautiful face, etc. Is that what you mean? :) John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 10:04:47 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. I back my 33' fifth wheel into the driveway every time we go out. Once I get positioned to begin backing, it never takes long to get the whole rig off the street. My advice - try backing in a few times on a quiet Sunday morning while everyone's still in bed. After a few trys, you'll pull up, crank the wheel a bit, and put it where you want it. Yeah, you may get yourself jacked a time or two, or have to pull up to pull over, but you'll very soon get very good at it, especially with the Highlander. Quit worrying about the neighbors. They'll understand. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 23:31:52 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: This thing would be eco friendly and should last a lifetime. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ472874840 Holy crap. You got 100 entries on this thread. Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything. Wait until he asks for ideas on how to arm himself for self-defense on the boat. Personally, I'd recommend the Sig Sauer P250 sub-compact in 9mm. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.
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On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? |
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On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale. I just responded that none was needed. |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale. I just responded that none was needed. It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I stated several months ago. |
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On Monday, 10 June 2013 12:02:03 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote: On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale. I just responded that none was needed. It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I stated several months ago. I do recall you talking about 'trigger pull'. |
Solution for pulling boat in driveway?
On 6/10/13 11:24 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 June 2013 12:02:03 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote: On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale. I just responded that none was needed. It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I stated several months ago. I do recall you talking about 'trigger pull'. Was that it? Trigger pull? Yeah, I'm not a fan of the triggers on double action semi-autos. I don't know anyone who shoots competitively with a trigger like that who hasn't spent a few hundred bucks to a grand on trigger work. |
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On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. |
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On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to... |
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On 6/10/13 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to... If you are referring to Herring, I apparently have not seen his post second hand. I don't see them first hand because he is down in the Bozo Bin with his buddies Hank, Earl, and a few others. |
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In article ,
says... On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to... Why are real, true statistics "straw man"? |
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On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
use he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality, methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed. |
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On 6/10/2013 12:24 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: use he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality, methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed. The stats didn't address the context of the post he answered, that's all I meant. |
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In article ,
says... On 6/10/2013 12:24 PM, Hank© wrote: On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: use he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality, methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed. The stats didn't address the context of the post he answered, that's all I meant. It sure as hell DID! |
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On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:45:00 -0400, Earl wrote: True North wrote: Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife? I've got one across the street that I use. She's about 26, great body, beautiful face, etc. Is that what you mean? :) John H. That would certainly work if you can keep your eyes on the trailer! |
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:09:59 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H wrote: On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:45:00 -0400, Earl wrote: True North wrote: Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects it can get a bit tricky. Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable. Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife? I've got one across the street that I use. She's about 26, great body, beautiful face, etc. Is that what you mean? :) John H. That would certainly work if you can keep your eyes on the trailer! What trailer? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:28:17 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote: Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it. I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times higher in the United States than it is in Canada. Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. According to the NRA, you're always safer with a gun. You could shoot a boat out of the water that was threatening you, after all. Or sink it before it got to you, if you have a fully automatic machine gun. Bullet holes in a hull dampen lift dramatically. |
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote: Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics about which to brag, eh? The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those statistics and those victims http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1 I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun would make me safer. My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem, because the majority of recipients are...white. The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my posit. Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out of wedlock births, eh? Silliness in the extremis. It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11. It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the US, It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we should be looking at on this BB. If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I did. Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400 Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta (who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black male in our society. He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people thought like that. When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of opportunity and you'll have your answer. It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied them. |
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