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On Jun 1, 12:52*pm, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 1:38 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 1, 12:08 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" *wrote in message ... I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... ---------------------------------- Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36' fifth wheel. * You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a minimum. I agree with Rich. a 1500 is a 'heavy half' tone truck. and is light for the load. I've never seen a 1500 set up for a 5th wheel, and the 5.3 will pull it but it'd have to work at it. Git up and go is only half of it. Slow down and whoa is the other part. True, but pulling that size of a trailer , the thing should have its own electric or surge brakes on it anyhow. |
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On 6/1/2013 4:59 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 12:52 pm, Hank© wrote: On 6/1/2013 1:38 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 1, 12:08 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... ---------------------------------- Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36' fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a minimum. I agree with Rich. a 1500 is a 'heavy half' tone truck. and is light for the load. I've never seen a 1500 set up for a 5th wheel, and the 5.3 will pull it but it'd have to work at it. Git up and go is only half of it. Slow down and whoa is the other part. True, but pulling that size of a trailer , the thing should have its own electric or surge brakes on it anyhow. I think brakes are required by law over 3000 lbs. There might be some law differences between jurisdictions especially with surge brakes. |
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"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control and stop a 36' trailer. ------------------------------------------------ Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes designed to handle it's weight. The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine, transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small 5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck. Yeah, we looked at a few trailers today. The truck is rated 5000 and the 17 foot Cub we looked at today comes in at 3400... The 23 foot Jayco Ultralight was real sweet but would butt right up against the limits at 4400 pounds and even used was pretty expensive. We are considering the 17 footer used, it has everything I need. Two seperate bedrooms for me and Jess. Bath, shower, toilet. Propane stove, fridge, heat.... weighs in at 3200 ponds. --------------------------- IIRC, you should use 80% of your truck's published capacity as a realistic guide. Sounds like you found a perfect match. |
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On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it. |
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On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it. Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap... Just found this... Hummmmmm... http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html ... That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1 trick pony. When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around them and moss creeping up the north side. Probably due to lack of interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as much as their dreams said they could. Annual license and ins. is much more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be really heavy. Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life. low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. And this isn't counting the plumbing on the inside... But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you couldn't handle. On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer and make 200 +/- one-way jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. and you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem. The thing is to to use it, IF you have a use for it Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city. Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc. Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car. Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed. |
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On Jun 1, 8:40*pm, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim *wrote: On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it. Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap... Just found this... Hummmmmm... http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html ... That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1 trick pony. *When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around them and moss creeping up the north side. *Probably *due to lack of interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as much as their dreams said they could. *Annual license and ins. is much more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be really heavy. Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life. low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. *And this isn't counting the plumbing on the inside... But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you couldn't handle. On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer and make 200 +/- one-way *jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. *and you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem. The thing is to *to use it, IF you *have a use for it Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city. Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc. Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car. Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed. Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge or later with the 454 GM's. Was it by chance one of these? http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg |
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On 6/1/2013 4:16 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 3:51 PM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control and stop a 36' trailer. ------------------------------------------------ Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes designed to handle it's weight. The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine, transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small 5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck. Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you. ------------------------------- True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus a 12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed. Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82 Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the trailer. I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I tried to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the intersection. I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs. Scotty, are you listening? ;-) I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... |
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On 6/1/2013 8:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 3:33 pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it. Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap... Just found this... Hummmmmm... http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html ... That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1 trick pony. When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around them and moss creeping up the north side. Probably due to lack of interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as much as their dreams said they could. Annual license and ins. is much more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be really heavy. Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life. low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. And this isn't counting the plumbing on the inside... But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you couldn't handle. On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer and make 200 +/- one-way jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. and you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem. The thing is to to use it, IF you have a use for it Well, a typical race season is 22 weekends... and that's just the local stuff... Still leaning toward the pull behind anyway, if we get another truck Jess will have a vehicle too. |
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"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... --------------------------------------------- You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration. That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply trying to be helpful. |
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On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... --------------------------------------------- You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration. That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply trying to be helpful. Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just asking... |
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On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... --------------------------------------------- You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration. That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply trying to be helpful. Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just asking... Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known. |
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On 6/2/2013 6:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... --------------------------------------------- You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration. That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply trying to be helpful. Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just asking... Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known. This thread has lost it's value as an on topic discussion of the subject line. As the sharks would say, "I'm out". |
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On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 8:40*pm, True North wrote: On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim *wrote: On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it. Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap... Just found this... Hummmmmm... http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html ... That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1 trick pony. *When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around them and moss creeping up the north side. *Probably *due to lack of interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as much as their dreams said they could. *Annual license and ins. is much more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be really heavy. Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life.. low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. *And this isn't counting the plumbing on the inside... But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you couldn't handle. On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer and make 200 +/- one-way *jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. *and you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem. The thing is to *to use it, IF you *have a use for it Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city. Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc. Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car. Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed. Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge or later with the 454 GM's. Was it by chance one of these? http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg Another link in case the first didn't work.. embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvidmg.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fv252%2Fwhited%2FMVI_0492_1_zps5cdb9fa0 ..mp4" |
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On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge or later with the 454 GM's. Was it by chance one of these? http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg Doh! PhotoBucket seems to be updating again. Try this.. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whit...b9fa0.mp4.html |
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On 6/2/13 9:50 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote: Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge or later with the 454 GM's. Was it by chance one of these? http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg Doh! PhotoBucket seems to be updating again. Try this.. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whit...b9fa0.mp4.html That link works. I'm wondering if I should switch from photobucket to something else, but I'm not wondering enough to spend time researching it. Photobucket keeps making "improvements" I find annoying. |
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On 6/2/2013 9:43 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Jun 1, 8:40 pm, True North wrote: On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Jun 1, 3:33 pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote: On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3... I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it. Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap... Just found this... Hummmmmm... http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html ... That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1 trick pony. When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around them and moss creeping up the north side. Probably due to lack of interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as much as their dreams said they could. Annual license and ins. is much more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be really heavy. Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life.. low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. And this isn't counting the plumbing on the inside... But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you couldn't handle. On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer and make 200 +/- one-way jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. and you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem. The thing is to to use it, IF you have a use for it Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city. Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc. Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car. Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed. Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge or later with the 454 GM's. Was it by chance one of these? http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg Another link in case the first didn't work.. embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvidmg.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fv252%2Fwhited%2FMVI_0492_1_zps5cdb9fa0 ..mp4" Don't you test your links before you post them? |
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On 6/2/2013 6:23 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/2/2013 6:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down, even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels, locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger vehicle to tow his rig... --------------------------------------------- You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration. That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply trying to be helpful. Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just asking... Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known. This thread has lost it's value as an on topic discussion of the subject line. As the sharks would say, "I'm out". Maybe for you but I got a hint from harry, and don got a hint from me.. First "useful" posts here in a while.. I still have more questions as we are going back to look at a Dodge Dakota sxt with the 4.0, rated to tow 6800 pounds, that way we might be able to move up (eventually) to the 4400 pound trailer we were looking at... Eventually the Dakota would be Jessi's truck and I would get something else for me. One of the biggest problems with the Jeep is it's so uncomortable on long trips, the seats are made of wood and dig into the back of my legs so bad I fear blood clots... def get cramps from it all the time... Anyway, for now we may be towing a 1500 pound trailer with a truck rated for 7000:) |
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On Sunday, 2 June 2013 11:29:54 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
What lake is that? Porters Lake.. about a half hour drive east of here. |
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It is at the upper 3rd, although there is a small boat club and a permanent style campground where large older style travel trailers go to die.
On the first section which is best for sailboats, are a number of nice homes and a provincial campground. My brother-in-laws property is between a third and a half of the way up...no electricity or roads unless you make your own. He does have a rails to trails path running right through. Directly across the lake is a seaplane hanger. |
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) |
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On Sunday, 2 June 2013 11:29:22 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
I like the 70's model Ford dump truck! That dump truck was a bit of a family joke for a while. Went down to help my brother-in-law partially clear the lot as he found it tiring jumping back and forth between the Kubota tractor and the dump truck. I got three dumps in before it broke. Couldn't control the hydraulic ram that lifts the back. Then we couldn't even get it started.. thought I was going to have to fly Tim in for a consult. Turns out it was a hose problem on the ram and they were able to find a new starter and some other electrical component locally. Kids did sneak onto the lot winter of 2010/2011 and smash the windshield. A person should be allowed to set up leg hold traps for two legged pests. Anyway the truck is still running, although everyone who drives it tends to hit a rock or something... it's getting beat up. |
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/3/2013 11:37 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. Yeah, we usually bring in a couple cases of water and a 35 gallon plastic barrel as most of the places we camp are not "camping" areas, just parking lots with no hookups, or fresh water available... The 640 pound figure was based on a full tank although for a single weekend I think we could do with half a tank at about 300 pounds. We looked at a few with the master bedroom and a nice couch but we still like the separate "rooms" with walls at either end and no having to go by someone to get to the potty at night. I snore and Jess is a light sleeper... There are a few other considerations that are specific to "our sport" that are probably not as important to "campers"... As to air matresses I have the Queen size, double height Coleman... It's nearly as comfortable as my home mattress and the height being normal bed height is a big plus... |
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:12:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/3/2013 11:37 AM, John H wrote: On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. Yeah, we usually bring in a couple cases of water and a 35 gallon plastic barrel as most of the places we camp are not "camping" areas, just parking lots with no hookups, or fresh water available... The 640 pound figure was based on a full tank although for a single weekend I think we could do with half a tank at about 300 pounds. We looked at a few with the master bedroom and a nice couch but we still like the separate "rooms" with walls at either end and no having to go by someone to get to the potty at night. I snore and Jess is a light sleeper... There are a few other considerations that are specific to "our sport" that are probably not as important to "campers"... As to air matresses I have the Queen size, double height Coleman... It's nearly as comfortable as my home mattress and the height being normal bed height is a big plus... In our 5er, as in most, the bathroom is accessible from the front bedroom or the living room with separate doors for each. In other words, it's between the BR and the LR. The air mattress I'm talking about came from Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It's unlike any I've ever seen before, but it does require 110 volts to use. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/3/2013 2:05 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:12:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/3/2013 11:37 AM, John H wrote: On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. Yeah, we usually bring in a couple cases of water and a 35 gallon plastic barrel as most of the places we camp are not "camping" areas, just parking lots with no hookups, or fresh water available... The 640 pound figure was based on a full tank although for a single weekend I think we could do with half a tank at about 300 pounds. We looked at a few with the master bedroom and a nice couch but we still like the separate "rooms" with walls at either end and no having to go by someone to get to the potty at night. I snore and Jess is a light sleeper... There are a few other considerations that are specific to "our sport" that are probably not as important to "campers"... As to air matresses I have the Queen size, double height Coleman... It's nearly as comfortable as my home mattress and the height being normal bed height is a big plus... In our 5er, as in most, the bathroom is accessible from the front bedroom or the living room with separate doors for each. In other words, it's between the BR and the LR. The air mattress I'm talking about came from Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It's unlike any I've ever seen before, but it does require 110 volts to use. John H. Nice, I will look into it. The mattresses in most of the ones we looked at sucked. |
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On Jun 3, 7:19*am, True North wrote:
Kids did sneak onto the lot winter of 2010/2011 and smash the windshield. That's a pathetic shame! Even as a kid i never saw much profit in wrecking out somebody's stuff just for some cheap laughs. Of course,After doing something like that, they'd be the first to scream if vandalized their car/truck. |
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On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:02:51 +0100, BountyHunter97 wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute;967621 Wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. I would be concerned about the roof leak. It could cause more problems down the road. I think he's already written off this fifth wheel. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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