True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html


====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html



====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I was
about 8, when he taught me to drive.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html




====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I
was about 8, when he taught me to drive.

Hand on the bottom of the wheel and move in the direction you want the
trailer to go?

Duh...that's a big secret??
Everyone knows that. Every instructional uses that procedure.

On 5/31/2013 9:00 PM, Earl wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html




====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I
was about 8, when he taught me to drive.

Hand on the bottom of the wheel and move in the direction you want the
trailer to go?

Actually what he told me was "Know your vehicle and in particular, how
wide it is/how wide your target is. Choose your path, pick a mirror, and
go... (heres the main part) *Do not swivel your head from side to side,
just watch one side of the vehicle and the other side will take care of
itself*".

The idea being if you have an 8 foot vehicle and a 10 foot hole, you
keep your side 1 foot from the side, and you really don't need to look
at the other side... just pay attention to your side. Too many people
get caught up looking from one mirror to another, and end up hitting
something.

"Backing" is kind of a "thing" in our family. I am not sure if any of
you remember ten years ago when I taught my middle daughter to drive. I
took her to a state park, drove all the way down a dirt road (jeep CJ,
standard trans) and told her to back it out. She said "why" and I said
because if you can back this short wheel base vehicle out of the woods,
you can drive it anywhere... She backed it out, drove it back, backed it
out, etc.. a few times, then we hit the road....

In article ,
says...

On 5/31/2013 9:00 PM, Earl wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html




====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I
was about 8, when he taught me to drive.

Hand on the bottom of the wheel and move in the direction you want the
trailer to go?

Actually what he told me was "Know your vehicle and in particular, how
wide it is/how wide your target is. Choose your path, pick a mirror, and
go... (heres the main part) *Do not swivel your head from side to side,
just watch one side of the vehicle and the other side will take care of
itself*".

The idea being if you have an 8 foot vehicle and a 10 foot hole, you
keep your side 1 foot from the side, and you really don't need to look
at the other side... just pay attention to your side. Too many people
get caught up looking from one mirror to another, and end up hitting
something.

"Backing" is kind of a "thing" in our family. I am not sure if any of
you remember ten years ago when I taught my middle daughter to drive. I
took her to a state park, drove all the way down a dirt road (jeep CJ,
standard trans) and told her to back it out. She said "why" and I said
because if you can back this short wheel base vehicle out of the woods,
you can drive it anywhere... She backed it out, drove it back, backed it
out, etc.. a few times, then we hit the road....

Cool story, Bro!

In article , earl9311
@hotmail.com says...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html




====



How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I
was about 8, when he taught me to drive.

Hand on the bottom of the wheel and move in the direction you want the
trailer to go?

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.

On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

On 6/1/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?