[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/22/13 1:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.


I agree 100% with this part of your post:

They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame.

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:19:43 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I agree 100% with this part of your post:

They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame.

===

You can add all the funding you want but without parental commitment
it will largely be wasted. We need some *serious* national leadership
on this issue. I had hoped that your president would do more but so
far I've been disappointed.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:24 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.

===

I understand that part of the issue very well. It is just about
impossible to have parental commitment without a functioning family.

Any ideas on how to fix it?

[True North[_2_]]

On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:



On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter

schools erodes the funds available for public schools.



===



Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.

When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,

the parents are inevitably to blame.



A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have

functioning families.





A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much

time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and

kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,

our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad

at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give

them, they could do a lot more.


Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.

[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/22/13 4:34 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:



On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter

schools erodes the funds available for public schools.



===



Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.

When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,

the parents are inevitably to blame.



A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have

functioning families.





A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much

time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and

kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,

our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad

at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give

them, they could do a lot more.


Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.



What are mom and pop doing at night? Even if one works at night, the
other should be home some of the time while the kids are home and awake,
especially when the kids are in grammar school or middle school or
junior high.

I wonder what teachers could do "a lot more" of in times where
classrooms are packed, resources are thin, and teachers have more
classes each day than they did when I was in public school.

Of course, if you are a kid and home with PsychoSnotty, what could you
learn? Certainly not reading, writing, math or social skills.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

On 5/22/2013 4:34 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:



On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter

schools erodes the funds available for public schools.



===



Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.

When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,

the parents are inevitably to blame.



A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have

functioning families.





A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much

time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and

kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,

our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad

at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give

them, they could do a lot more.


Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.


You pathetic old slob. Does telling your harrytales make you feel like
more of a man? I doubt it...

[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/22/13 4:53 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 4:34 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:



On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter

schools erodes the funds available for public schools.



===



Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.

When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,

the parents are inevitably to blame.



A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have

functioning families.





A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much

time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and

kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,

our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad

at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give

them, they could do a lot more.


Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.


You pathetic old slob. Does telling your harrytales make you feel like
more of a man? I doubt it...


It would be unique for you to be a man, eh?

[John H[_2_]]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

Add the inability to fire worthless union teachers, and I'd wholeheartedly agree with you.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[John H[_2_]]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:24 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.

In DC, 80% of the births are to unwed mothers. Could that have something to do with the problem? I
wonder how Detroit and Chicago compare.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!