[Hank©[_2_]]

On 5/23/2013 10:22 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/23/2013 7:08 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else.

Head Start has proved to have no benefit to the child because by the time they are in 3rd
grade any perceived gain from Head Start is long gone. Head Start give
low-income parents the
abilty to have the public provide baby sitting services cheaply and it
gives the government
flunkies time to mold the children in their images.


Yup, got that right...

Nice to hear from the highly uneducated posters on educational topics.

Nice to have a boating neophyte like you posting on rec.boats. Luckily
you have your father to fall back on as your treasure of boating stories.

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

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says...

On 5/22/2013 4:34 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:



On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter

schools erodes the funds available for public schools.



===



Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.

When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,

the parents are inevitably to blame.



A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have

functioning families.





A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much

time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and

kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,

our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad

at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give

them, they could do a lot more.


Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.


You pathetic old slob. Does telling your harrytales make you feel like
more of a man? I doubt it...

It's not a lie, you owe taxes.

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

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says...

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:24 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.

In DC, 80% of the births are to unwed mothers. Could that have something to do with the problem? I
wonder how Detroit and Chicago compare.

John H.

Did you know that the biggest percentage of teen pregnancies occurs in
that great conservative christian bastion of Texas? Seems that just
telling them to just say no doesn't work so well....

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

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says...

On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

Simple answer from a simple mind. It's like this, if the choose to only
do the minimum required, you are correct, not much homework. BUT, if you
want to excel at a particular subject, the more you study and practice
the better you are at it. Just squeaking by and getting that "diploma"
isn't enough anymore. You need to excel to get into a good college, and
then you need to excel there because the employers are looking for the
cream of the crop.

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

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says...

On 5/22/13 9:03 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 7:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:




On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees a
HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification. Is that
what you are saying?



Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...

Forty hours of homework a semester? We had at least two hours of
homework a night when I was in high school. Ten hours a week, minimum Of
course, we learned how to read and write, and think abstractly.

You have problems writing coherent sentences. That speaks well to your
wonderful education wherever the hell you went to public school, eh?

Leave it to Scotty make statements that there's too much education going
on!!!!

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

In article ,
says...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

And if you hadn't have just done the bare minimum required, you may have
gotten a college education.

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on
private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend
too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the
families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to
be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom
or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we
give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think
graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do
homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40
years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home
town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our
town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be
done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma
is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.

Indeed!

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

In article ,
says...

On 5/22/2013 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.



Bull****.. My mom put it up there some 30 years ago along with a few
trophies and other objects of my childhood? That might be forign to you,
but my mom was pretty proud of me, I do call bull**** that you couldn't
deduce that or something similar all by yourself though. snerk

I bet you have some momemtos on your wall somewhere of things in your
life you are proud of, I bet your mom did too.. Sorry if your "things"
are better than mine... you don't even see... oh forget it.. LOL! Hope
you never do...

Day three of the Scotty circle of insanity, the poor poor victim.

[iBoaterer[_3_]]

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says...

On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

it gives the government
flunkies time to mold the children in their images.


Yup, got that right...

===

That's nonsense.

Of course it is! Scotty has spent the whole morning trying to negate a
good education!

[Wayne B]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:20:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/23/2013 10:07 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

it gives the government
flunkies time to mold the children in their images.


Yup, got that right...

===

That's nonsense.


When was the last time you had a child in a public school system?

====

About 15 years ago. Have things changed since then?