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F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 03:40 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 10:35 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


NY state senator 'torture' tweet spurs controversy

PAWLING, N.Y. (AP) — A New York state senator has spurred controversy
online by asking in a tweet if the Boston Marathon bombing suspect
arrested Friday should be tortured.

(Snip)

Have none of these people ever read "The Witches of Loudon" or, for that
matter "The Crucible?"


These new age Republican legislators only read Marvel superhero comic
books.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 03:40 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 10:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the
muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target
without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front
sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional
aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a
second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25 yards
away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon
as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's
cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?

((Snerk))


Yeah harry, if this is above your pay grade...


What does Greg's training, stance and cover matter to you? And, the
reality is...


None of your business stalker...


F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 03:53 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?



I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s. I had a small grant
to report on a group of college students who went south during spring
break to help rebuild a church that had been set on fire by the klan and
also to help register voters. One night after a day of taking photos and
doing interviews, we were heading back to where we were staying when the
car we were in came under attack. It was a white Oldsmobile driven by a
local official of the black Deacons for Defense and Justice.

The car doors were peppered with bullet holes, but no one was hurt. Our
driver returned fire and thought he had hit someone. The afternoon paper
the next day had an article about a local who had been hit by a "stray
bullet" while night hunting. Right where we were attacked.

I was the real hero in that shooting. I got behind the other side of the
car and stayed low. :)

A group of us were roughed up a bit the next day in town. We weren't
non-violent. I had the school's Nikon F with me, and it was on a wide
web strap. I swung it and smashed it against the side of the head of one
of the good old boys who was swinging at us with his fists. Put a small
dent in the camera.

Ahh, the good old days.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 04:09 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?



I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...


This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro" LOL!


F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 04:16 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 11:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...


This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro" LOL!


What passes for thought in your peabrain exists only to entertain. How's
the racing team doing? Going to win this year or settle for a new hair
color? I hear green is the in color now

iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 04:18 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25 yards away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


((Snerk))


Yeah harry, if this is above your pay grade...


Babbling insanity, typical in the Scotty circle of insanity.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 04:20 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 10:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the
muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target
without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front
sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional
aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a
second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25 yards
away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon
as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's
cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?

((Snerk))


Yeah harry, if this is above your pay grade...


What does Greg's training, stance and cover matter to you? And, the
reality is...


None of your business stalker...


Scotty calling other people stalkers!!!!! Gee, who was it that claimed
to know where Harry lived and was going to send some greasy bikers to
see him? Who was it that showed pictures of Don's house?

iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 04:23 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...


This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro" LOL!


Yeah, kind of like the bull**** you sling here as "evidence"?

F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 04:23 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 11:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25 yards away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?

((Snerk))


Yeah harry, if this is above your pay grade...


Babbling insanity, typical in the Scotty circle of insanity.


Imagine Scotty being interviewed for a payroll job. Now that would be a
video worth watching for chuckles.



iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 04:26 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/13 11:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...


This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro" LOL!


What passes for thought in your peabrain exists only to entertain. How's
the racing team doing? Going to win this year or settle for a new hair
color? I hear green is the in color now


It amazes me that an allegedly thinking person is positive that his
family is going to make it in motocross!! Like musicians, there are
thousands and thousands of very good ones, better than lots that have
made it that never get the chance. It has a lot about luck. But then
again, if you don't have the skills or determination to get a decent job
to take care of your family, all you have is those pipe dreams.

F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 04:30 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 11:26 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/13 11:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...

This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro" LOL!


What passes for thought in your peabrain exists only to entertain. How's
the racing team doing? Going to win this year or settle for a new hair
color? I hear green is the in color now


It amazes me that an allegedly thinking person is positive that his
family is going to make it in motocross!! Like musicians, there are
thousands and thousands of very good ones, better than lots that have
made it that never get the chance. It has a lot about luck. But then
again, if you don't have the skills or determination to get a decent job
to take care of your family, all you have is those pipe dreams.


I'm sure his kid tries hard, but in addition to developing the necessary
skills to win, she has to overcome the handicap of having a moron for a
father. I still think she'll met some decent guy with a decent job
someday and decide her future is in a different direction.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 04:41 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 11:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:26 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/13 11:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could
elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...

This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro"
LOL!


What passes for thought in your peabrain exists only to entertain. How's
the racing team doing? Going to win this year or settle for a new hair
color? I hear green is the in color now


It amazes me that an allegedly thinking person is positive that his
family is going to make it in motocross!!


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard


**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post... LOL!





F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 04:52 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard


**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes, where men and women can compete
together? If so, why not?

There's always the Isle of Man TT races, where women compete:

TT newcomer and Supersport racer, England’s Jenny Tinmouth now owns the
fastest women’s lap record for the Isle of Man at an average speed of
116.483 mph (187 km/h) on her Honda Fireblade. The previous record was
held by the phenomenal Maria Costello, who in 2004 became the fastest
women on the Isle of Man with an average speed of just over 114 mph (183
km/h).

British Supersport rider Jenny Tinmouth is the latest in a long line of
talented young riders who raced and made their débuts at 2009 Isle of
Man TT Races.

Jenny, 30-years of age works is a motorcycle mechanic by trade and works
for “Two Wheel Workshop”. She’s already got the reputation for being the
fastest female rider in the UK—the Isle of Man is now part of her
accomplishments as well as being the first woman to compete in the TT’s
solo classes since France's Fabienne Migout rode in the Supersport and
Production 600cc races in 2004.

Tinmouth comes from England’s North, Ellesmere Port, Cheshire and
started racing in 2000 in the 125cc class. She soon progressed to
Britain’s MRO (Motorcycle Racing Organisation) Championship and by 2003
was a regular in the 125cc British Championship grabbing her first
points in 2004 at Mallory Park. That year also saw her become the first
female rider to lead a British Championship solo race, however briefly
during Brands Hatch round. When Maria Costello heard of Jenny’s new
record she was very complimentary yet also expressed that she intends a
comeback on her Kawasaki ZX6.

http://tinyurl.com/chkl78q





iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 04:53 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 11:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:26 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/13 11:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 10:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:26:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could
elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


I am not sure if I hit the guy or not. He did stop shooting.
I didn't see anything in the paper.

That is what made me want to upgrade my equipment (a .22 SNS at the
time) and work on some better training.


The first time I was shot at was in the early ...

This is as far as I got, then realized it was a harry story.. So,
although I didn't read it I will go ahead and say, "cool story bro"
LOL!


What passes for thought in your peabrain exists only to entertain. How's
the racing team doing? Going to win this year or settle for a new hair
color? I hear green is the in color now

It amazes me that an allegedly thinking person is positive that his
family is going to make it in motocross!!


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard


**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post... LOL!


Kevin's a loser? Is he unemployed like you? Does he not provide for his
family in a decent way like you? Does he talk to his kids about "sucking
dick"? Does he act like a low class, vulgar dolt like you?

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 04:56 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard


**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes


look it up...


J Herring April 22nd 13 05:03 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


More Krause bull****.

Was this a 'special circumstance', ESAD?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 05:04 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard


**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes,


Here's a hint asshat. That's what the guys in your hobby called you,
"asshat" right? Anyway, Jess rides for a "mens" team in both of her
disciplines... Jess took second in her class yesterday, running first
all race until she made a mistake working lap traffic with three corners
to go and Gina passed her for first... I am a happy dad, the sponsors
love it since this is her first race back in almost 6 mos... :) There
were experts, pros, and over thirty vets on the track with them, it was
a good race for Jess on one of her favorite tracks.


F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 05:06 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/13 11:56 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard

**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes


look it up...


I'm not that interested. The only motorcycle racing that interests me
are the isle of man TT's and the old-style flat track racing.

Hank©[_2_] April 22nd 13 05:07 PM

The Bush-Cheney Legacy
 
On 4/22/2013 10:35 AM, J Herring wrote:
On 22 Apr 2013 14:28:16 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25 yards away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?


((Snerk))


Do you outshoot all the Maryland cops, or just 'most'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Harry's training to be a pistol sniper.

Hank©[_2_] April 22nd 13 05:14 PM

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On 4/22/2013 11:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 10:13 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:00:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 9:43 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/22/2013 12:46 AM,
wrote:


You should train at fairly short ranges trying to develop the
muscle
memory to be able to hit the center of mass on a B-21 target
without
really aiming. It is a point and shoot exercise more like
claybird
than traditional bullseye. You are really only using the front
sight
and starting from the retention position. I also do this from the
decocked condition. Your follow up shots are more traditional
aimed
fire but these days, you probably have legal problems with a
second
shot if your first one hit at all..

I agree with Hank to some degree. If you shoot someone 25
yards away,
you are going to have a hard time claiming self defense..


Yup, and every bit of that training goes out the window as soon
as the
perp shoots back and you turn away from him... But I guess it's
cool to
pretend:)

I have been shot at.


Ok, were you shooting back at the time or taking cover or both?

Shooting back. The over riding emotion was anger, not fear


Ok... how did your training work out for you. Without getting into
trouble, did you hit your target? Also wondering if you could
elaborate
on your stance and cover at the time?

((Snerk))


Yeah harry, if this is above your pay grade...


Babbling insanity, typical in the Scotty circle of insanity.


Imagine Scotty being interviewed for a payroll job. Now that would be a
video worth watching for chuckles.


You need to see that shrink in Dunkirk, and maybe you could take your
bride out to lunch after.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 05:19 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


More Krause bull****.

Was this a 'special circumstance', ESAD?


Salmonbait


How do you know it's bull****? Please show how you know he wasn't shot
at.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 22nd 13 05:20 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard

**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes,


Here's a hint asshat. That's what the guys in your hobby called you,
"asshat" right? Anyway, Jess rides for a "mens" team in both of her
disciplines... Jess took second in her class yesterday, running first
all race until she made a mistake working lap traffic with three corners
to go and Gina passed her for first... I am a happy dad, the sponsors
love it since this is her first race back in almost 6 mos... :) There
were experts, pros, and over thirty vets on the track with them, it was
a good race for Jess on one of her favorite tracks.


Cool story, bro.

Hank©[_2_] April 22nd 13 05:22 PM

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On 4/22/2013 12:03 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


More Krause bull****.

Was this a 'special circumstance', ESAD?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Krause was shot at and missed and **** at and hit. ;-)

F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 05:23 PM

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On 4/22/13 12:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


More Krause bull****.

Was this a 'special circumstance', ESAD?


Salmonbait


How do you know it's bull****? Please show how you know he wasn't shot
at.


It wasn't me personally, it was the car I was in with our college group
and a local driver. Might have been at the same time Herring the Racist
was in Vietnam, helping to slaughter non-combatant civilians.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 06:03 PM

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On 4/22/2013 12:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:56 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard

**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes


look it up...


I'm not that interested. The only motorcycle racing that interests me
are the isle of man TT's and the old-style flat track racing.


Yes, we know... you are just being an asshole...

True North[_2_] April 22nd 13 06:08 PM

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On Monday, 22 April 2013 13:04:51 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:






Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from


motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year


there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to


the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't


understand...




I'm sure his kid tries hard




**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...


LOL!






Aren't there open racing classes,




Here's a hint asshat. That's what the guys in your hobby called you,

"asshat" right? Anyway, Jess rides for a "mens" team in both of her

disciplines... Jess took second in her class yesterday, running first

all race until she made a mistake working lap traffic with three corners

to go and Gina passed her for first... I am a happy dad, the sponsors

love it since this is her first race back in almost 6 mos... :) There

were experts, pros, and over thirty vets on the track with them, it was

a good race for Jess on one of her favorite tracks.



Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd better supply verifiable sites to confirm.

Eisboch[_8_] April 22nd 13 06:18 PM

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


-------------------------------

The "first" time? You've been shot at a least one more time since?


F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 06:28 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


-------------------------------

The "first" time? You've been shot at a least one more time since?


Three times in total, twice in the USA, once in Central America. The first
was, as I stated, while in a car; it wasn't "personal."

Eisboch[_8_] April 22nd 13 06:38 PM

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

"Eisboch" wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


-------------------------------

The "first" time? You've been shot at a least one more time since?


Three times in total, twice in the USA, once in Central America. The
first
was, as I stated, while in a car; it wasn't "personal."

--------------------------------------

I guess I was safer in the military. I was only shot at once in 9
years.


Eisboch[_8_] April 22nd 13 06:54 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

"Eisboch" wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


-------------------------------

The "first" time? You've been shot at a least one more time since?


Three times in total, twice in the USA, once in Central America. The
first
was, as I stated, while in a car; it wasn't "personal."

--------------------------------------

I guess I was safer in the military. I was only shot at once in 9
years.

--------------------------------------

Actually, I should correct that. I've been shot at twice. The
first time I damn near shot myself and I still shudder when I think
about it.

I was working for a Bekins Moving & Storage agent during the summer
after graduating from high school and before starting school in the
fall.
We were moving the household furnishings of an old guy's house (he
had passed away) and while breaking down a bed I found a slender,
steel tube between the mattress and the box spring. Didn't have a
clue what it was. It had a clip of sorts on one end that was spring
loaded.

I stood there holding it in one hand and playing with the spring clip
with the other trying to figure out what it was. A couple of times I
looked right down the hollow tube. After inspecting it for a while I
gave the clip a stronger pull and released it. BAMM! Thing went off
and blew a hole in the ceiling. Scared the crap out of me. Turns
out it was some form of a "zip" gun that probably dated back to the
1920's.



J Herring April 22nd 13 07:25 PM

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:23:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/22/13 12:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.

More Krause bull****.

Was this a 'special circumstance', ESAD?


Salmonbait


How do you know it's bull****? Please show how you know he wasn't shot
at.


It wasn't me personally, it was the car I was in with our college group
and a local driver. Might have been at the same time Herring the Racist
was in Vietnam, helping to slaughter non-combatant civilians.


Your support of the Vietnam war is appreciated.

And, for Kevin - ESAD is too big a target to miss.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 22nd 13 09:36 PM

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On 4/22/13 1:03 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 12:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:56 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from
motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year
there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her
talent to
the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't
understand...

I'm sure his kid tries hard

**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your
post...
LOL!


Aren't there open racing classes

look it up...


I'm not that interested. The only motorcycle racing that interests me
are the isle of man TT's and the old-style flat track racing.


Yes, we know... you are just being an asshole...


Sorry, I'm just not a fan of your style of motorcycle racing.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 09:36 PM

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On 4/22/2013 1:08 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 22 April 2013 13:04:51 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:






Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from


motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year


there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to


the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't


understand...




I'm sure his kid tries hard




**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...


LOL!






Aren't there open racing classes,




Here's a hint asshat. That's what the guys in your hobby called you,

"asshat" right? Anyway, Jess rides for a "mens" team in both of her

disciplines... Jess took second in her class yesterday, running first

all race until she made a mistake working lap traffic with three corners

to go and Gina passed her for first... I am a happy dad, the sponsors

love it since this is her first race back in almost 6 mos... :) There

were experts, pros, and over thirty vets on the track with them, it was

a good race for Jess on one of her favorite tracks.



Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd better supply verifiable sites to confirm.


**** you don, have nothing to prove to you at all...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 22nd 13 09:40 PM

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On 4/22/2013 1:28 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:53:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The first time I was shot at was in the early 1960s.


-------------------------------

The "first" time? You've been shot at a least one more time since?


Three times in total, twice in the USA, once in Central America. The first
was, as I stated, while in a car; it wasn't "personal."


Bwaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaa!!! Holy ****, that's some harrytale! At least this
one can't be debunked by Google like every other one:) I will be
laughing for a while at this one, thank you harry!!!

True North[_2_] April 22nd 13 09:51 PM

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Uh..huh! Thought so.....

iBoaterer[_3_] April 23rd 13 01:35 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 4/22/2013 1:08 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 22 April 2013 13:04:51 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 4/22/2013 11:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 4/22/13 11:41 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:





Kevin, you ****ing loser, my family will never make anything from

motocross. There are only three womens races this season and next year

there will probably be no more WMA. I am letting her take her talent to

the highest level she can, for her own experience, I sure you wouldn't

understand...



I'm sure his kid tries hard



**** off stalker.... of course, this is as far as I got in your post...

LOL!





Aren't there open racing classes,



Here's a hint asshat. That's what the guys in your hobby called you,

"asshat" right? Anyway, Jess rides for a "mens" team in both of her

disciplines... Jess took second in her class yesterday, running first

all race until she made a mistake working lap traffic with three corners

to go and Gina passed her for first... I am a happy dad, the sponsors

love it since this is her first race back in almost 6 mos... :) There

were experts, pros, and over thirty vets on the track with them, it was

a good race for Jess on one of her favorite tracks.



Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd better supply verifiable sites to confirm.


**** you don, have nothing to prove to you at all...


Glad you acknowledge that you are a lying, racist, vulgar low class
trash.

Earl[_84_] April 26th 13 01:38 AM

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True North wrote:
Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd
better supply verifiable sites to confirm.

I know this one...

You are responding to Harry! Some of your crappy posts without quoted
text are difficult to figure out. This one was simple.

True North[_2_] April 26th 13 03:23 AM

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On Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:38:45 UTC-3, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:

Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd


better supply verifiable sites to confirm.


I know this one...



You are responding to Harry! Some of your crappy posts without quoted

text are difficult to figure out. This one was simple.



Wrong, as usual, Ditzy.
Anyone with half a brain and a lick of sense knows I was describing Snottie to a 'T'.

F.O.A.D. April 26th 13 11:47 AM

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On 4/25/13 10:23 PM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:38:45 UTC-3, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:

Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd


better supply verifiable sites to confirm.


I know this one...



You are responding to Harry! Some of your crappy posts without quoted

text are difficult to figure out. This one was simple.



Wrong, as usual, Ditzy.
Anyone with half a brain and a lick of sense knows I was describing Snottie to a 'T'.



"Earl" is not only in my bozo bin, he's on his family's Do Not
Resuscitate list. Or is that the Do Not Respond list? It's so confusing.

True North[_2_] April 26th 13 12:52 PM

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On Friday, 26 April 2013 07:47:28 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/25/13 10:23 PM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:38:45 UTC-3, Earl wrote:


True North wrote:




Since you are known far and wide as a 'natural born liar', you'd




better supply verifiable sites to confirm.




I know this one...








You are responding to Harry! Some of your crappy posts without quoted




text are difficult to figure out. This one was simple.






Wrong, as usual, Ditzy.


Anyone with half a brain and a lick of sense knows I was describing Snottie to a 'T'.








"Earl" is not only in my bozo bin, he's on his family's Do Not

Resuscitate list. Or is that the Do Not Respond list? It's so confusing.



Either classification works just fine with Ditzy Dan.


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