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On 4/23/13 8:18 AM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/22/13 10:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 22, 7:57 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article c4e9cd7e-1233-4f81-b4af-3ab41fbf0744 @r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' But the same is true of Muslims, but to listen to the right wingers here, you'd not know that. Thanks for the response to half of my post, here's the rest that you omitted... "A Christian 'extremist' is one that practices of the Savior, if not the basis of Judao-Christian theology, "Love thy neighbor as thyself". And that doesn't mean to do evil in Christs name.. I don't know that much about Islam to be judgmental but i have noticed that the Sunni's and the Shiite's tend to enjoy blowing each other up in a rather repeated fashion. " Are you saying you have to be "an extremist" to follow the teachings of Jesus? Why all the spin, Harry? I really am thinking that your believe is that because Hitler and Stalin were Christians after al, in their youth they were both choirboys and each had considered entering the priesthood in their holy churches. So therefore, their actions in the first half of the past century were the product of a solid Christian upbringing. I really do believe you think that. And if that really is the case, then maybe you shouldn't go hanging around the Greek Orthodox church when they have their cooking fair. People might confuse you as being a christian.... That doesn't address my question. You stated in fairly clear language that ""A Christian 'extremist' is one that practices (the teachings?) of the Savior, if not the basis of Judao-Christian theology, "Love thy neighbor as thyself". And that doesn't mean to do evil in Christs name.." I'm simply wondering why you label following the teachings of your saviour "extreme." To me, a christian extremist is someone who claims to be a christian and yet engages in blowing up abortion clinics, killing doctors, proselytizing among uneducated indigenous populations, forcing his/her religious beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all, pushes "creationism" as reality, or engages in religiously based war. That's pretty much the same sort of behavior engaged in by muslim extremists. |
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On 4/23/13 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/22/13 10:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 22, 7:57 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article c4e9cd7e-1233-4f81-b4af-3ab41fbf0744 @r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' But the same is true of Muslims, but to listen to the right wingers here, you'd not know that. Thanks for the response to half of my post, here's the rest that you omitted... "A Christian 'extremist' is one that practices of the Savior, if not the basis of Judao-Christian theology, "Love thy neighbor as thyself". And that doesn't mean to do evil in Christs name.. I don't know that much about Islam to be judgmental but i have noticed that the Sunni's and the Shiite's tend to enjoy blowing each other up in a rather repeated fashion. " Are you saying you have to be "an extremist" to follow the teachings of jesus? You tell me. No you have told me your views. I've told you mine and they obviously differ. I know a number of priests and nuns who seem to follow the teachings of their saviour and don't seem extreme in any way. |
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In article , says... On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:09:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... You said he "certainly looks the part of a Jihadist". What does a Jihadist look like? Hey Kevin, does he look like a jihadist to you yet? He says he is a jihadist. Ask Kevin, but if you are asking me, you have totally missed the point. SO, all jihadists look like this guy? I asked, what does a Jihadist look like? You still miss the idea of metaphor don't you? "Look" in this case is the overall impression, based on everything I have seen and read. I understand these guys were wannabe jihadists, compared to Bin Laden but there are still 4 dead Americans and almost 200 injured. Before this is over they may have cost the US close to a billion dollars for an investment of a few hundred dollars. The media, again, rewards these killers far more than their evil deeds deserve. We make ourselves a very attractive target for terror. Terrorists know the US media is a force multiplier, blowing any attack far out of proportion to what the real effect was. While all of that about the media is true, you STILL haven't told me what exactly does a Jihadist "look like"? It looks like "refugees" from the Caccuss region. It looks like young men from Arabia. It looks like disaffected Muslims from around the world. |
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says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:09:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... You said he "certainly looks the part of a Jihadist". What does a Jihadist look like? Hey Kevin, does he look like a jihadist to you yet? He says he is a jihadist. Ask Kevin, but if you are asking me, you have totally missed the point. SO, all jihadists look like this guy? I asked, what does a Jihadist look like? You still miss the idea of metaphor don't you? "Look" in this case is the overall impression, based on everything I have seen and read. I understand these guys were wannabe jihadists, compared to Bin Laden but there are still 4 dead Americans and almost 200 injured. Before this is over they may have cost the US close to a billion dollars for an investment of a few hundred dollars. The media, again, rewards these killers far more than their evil deeds deserve. We make ourselves a very attractive target for terror. Terrorists know the US media is a force multiplier, blowing any attack far out of proportion to what the real effect was. While all of that about the media is true, you STILL haven't told me what exactly does a Jihadist "look like"? It looks like "refugees" from the Caccuss region. It looks like young men from Arabia. It looks like disaffected Muslims from around the world. Gee, just about everybody, then eh? |
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On 4/25/13 8:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:09:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... You said he "certainly looks the part of a Jihadist". What does a Jihadist look like? Hey Kevin, does he look like a jihadist to you yet? He says he is a jihadist. Ask Kevin, but if you are asking me, you have totally missed the point. SO, all jihadists look like this guy? I asked, what does a Jihadist look like? You still miss the idea of metaphor don't you? "Look" in this case is the overall impression, based on everything I have seen and read. I understand these guys were wannabe jihadists, compared to Bin Laden but there are still 4 dead Americans and almost 200 injured. Before this is over they may have cost the US close to a billion dollars for an investment of a few hundred dollars. The media, again, rewards these killers far more than their evil deeds deserve. We make ourselves a very attractive target for terror. Terrorists know the US media is a force multiplier, blowing any attack far out of proportion to what the real effect was. While all of that about the media is true, you STILL haven't told me what exactly does a Jihadist "look like"? It looks like "refugees" from the Caccuss region. It looks like young men from Arabia. It looks like disaffected Muslims from around the world. Gee, just about everybody, then eh? Muslims, like christians, come in every flavor of skin color, so, as you point out, they look "just like everybody." I'm not sure where "Caccuss" is, though. Maybe he means "Caucasus." That's an interesting part of the world, with dozens and dozens of ethnic groups and many languages. The majority of the population, though, is not muslim...it is eastern orthodox christian. |
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