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Tim April 13th 13 06:08 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!

J Herring April 13th 13 06:44 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


I wish someone would trap/dispose of the beavers at our local golf course. The damn things are
taking down *lots* of trees. That wouldn't be so bad if they took down the *right* trees, but they
don't seem to pay attention to the trees we keep hitting.

Dam beavers!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 13th 13 06:53 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/13/13 1:08 PM, Tim wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


If beaver is banned, there is no reason to live.

Tim April 13th 13 07:16 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Apr 13, 12:53*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/13/13 1:08 PM, Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?


Ban beavers!


If beaver is banned, there is no reason to live.



well, now that you mentioned it- If beaver is banned, it would only
take two generations to wipe out all of mankind!

J Herring April 13th 13 08:41 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 13, 12:53*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/13/13 1:08 PM, Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?


Ban beavers!


If beaver is banned, there is no reason to live.



well, now that you mentioned it- If beaver is banned, it would only
take two generations to wipe out all of mankind!


Another reason we shouldn't all go gay.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Canuck57[_9_] April 13th 13 09:21 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 13/04/2013 11:44 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


I wish someone would trap/dispose of the beavers at our local golf course. The damn things are
taking down *lots* of trees. That wouldn't be so bad if they took down the *right* trees, but they
don't seem to pay attention to the trees we keep hitting.

Dam beavers!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


So you have the right to live and they don't?

Maybe golf somewhere else and leave them alone.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

J Herring April 13th 13 10:29 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:21:08 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:

On 13/04/2013 11:44 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


I wish someone would trap/dispose of the beavers at our local golf course. The damn things are
taking down *lots* of trees. That wouldn't be so bad if they took down the *right* trees, but they
don't seem to pay attention to the trees we keep hitting.

Dam beavers!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


So you have the right to live and they don't?

Maybe golf somewhere else and leave them alone.


The trees have rights too, you know.

No one said the poor beavers had to be killed. They need to be trapped and disposed in a more
suitable place. We've got lots of streams, creeks, and ponds or lakes around here. Hell, they
wouldn't even have to leave the county!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


iBoaterer[_3_] April 14th 13 04:13 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:44:02 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


I wish someone would trap/dispose of the beavers at our local golf course. The damn things are
taking down *lots* of trees. That wouldn't be so bad if they took down the *right* trees, but they
don't seem to pay attention to the trees we keep hitting.

Dam beavers!


Salmonbait


Save a tree, eat a beaver.


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....

iBoaterer[_3_] April 14th 13 05:20 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:13:25 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Save a tree, eat a beaver.


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


It's a joke, lighten up

My environmental credentials are sound.


Uh, it was a joke in reply to your joke, lighten up.

J Herring April 14th 13 05:22 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:39:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:13:25 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Save a tree, eat a beaver.


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


It's a joke, lighten up

My environmental credentials are sound.


Kevin? He's still around?

Anyway, I think your idea is sound. But, I tried eating a groundhog once. Didn't work. I'm thinking
beavers would be about the same. Tougher'n hell.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Wayne B April 14th 13 07:51 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:22:40 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Anyway, I think your idea is sound. But, I tried eating a groundhog once. Didn't work. I'm thinking
beavers would be about the same. Tougher'n hell.


====

Never eat rabid beaver.

HankŠ[_2_] April 14th 13 11:19 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/14/2013 12:22 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:39:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:13:25 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Save a tree, eat a beaver.

And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


It's a joke, lighten up

My environmental credentials are sound.


Kevin? He's still around?

Anyway, I think your idea is sound. But, I tried eating a groundhog once. Didn't work. I'm thinking
beavers would be about the same. Tougher'n hell.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Try cooking them first.

Urin Asshole April 15th 13 05:50 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:41:15 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 13, 12:53*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/13/13 1:08 PM, Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!

If beaver is banned, there is no reason to live.



well, now that you mentioned it- If beaver is banned, it would only
take two generations to wipe out all of mankind!


Another reason we shouldn't all go gay.


Salmonbait


Just you?

J Herring April 15th 13 02:31 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:19:15 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/14/2013 12:22 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:39:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:13:25 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Save a tree, eat a beaver.

And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....

It's a joke, lighten up

My environmental credentials are sound.


Kevin? He's still around?

Anyway, I think your idea is sound. But, I tried eating a groundhog once. Didn't work. I'm thinking
beavers would be about the same. Tougher'n hell.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Try cooking them first.


We roasted it. Still too tough to eat.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


jps April 15th 13 05:51 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?

Urin Asshole April 15th 13 06:18 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:51:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!


How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?


One death is too many!! :-)

BAR[_2_] April 16th 13 01:34 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
In article , says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:44:02 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...an-in-belarus/

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!

I wish someone would trap/dispose of the beavers at our local golf course. The damn things are
taking down *lots* of trees. That wouldn't be so bad if they took down the *right* trees, but they
don't seem to pay attention to the trees we keep hitting.

Dam beavers!


Salmonbait


Save a tree, eat a beaver.


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.

F.O.A.D. April 16th 13 03:29 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.


I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.


That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


J Herring April 16th 13 03:46 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:23:20 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.


I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.
Why don't these wild life lovers get up off their wallets and buy land
for wildlife preservation? If the golfers were not there, this would
just be part of the concrete jungle and the beavers would die.
I see these PETA and humane society weasels bitching about hunters but
hunters do far more to protect natural wildlife populations, preserve
habitat and actually set aside land than all the Volvo driving bark
eaters combined.

Maybe the armchair environmentalists should look at what we are doing
in Southwest Florida. The voters decided to create funds to buy up
habitat and put it in preservation., This wasn't a unilateral decision
by government or a "taking" of private property, it was a referendum
that created a dedicated taxing district for the purpose. Properties
are bought at market price, not stolen in eminent domain robberies.


There *is* a perfect habitat for the suckers, damn near across the street.

Put 'Huntley Meadows Park, Alexandria, VA' into Mapquest. Look just north - that's the golf course.
The park has all kinds of trees and water. But, the folks are not allowed to trap the beaver.

Stupid.



Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


HankŠ[_2_] April 16th 13 03:47 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/2013 10:29 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/16/13 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the
environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their
benefit for millions and
millions of years.


I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.


That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


I can't believe a PROGRESSIVE said that.

J Herring April 16th 13 03:55 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/16/2013 10:29 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/16/13 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the
environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their
benefit for millions and
millions of years.

I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.


That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


I can't believe a PROGRESSIVE said that.


One who brags about his strip mall ownership.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


True North[_2_] April 16th 13 03:57 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tuesday, 16 April 2013 11:46:32 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:23:20 -0400, wrote:



On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:






And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....




Save it from what?




The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and


millions of years.




I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available


for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot


of land you can have.


Why don't these wild life lovers get up off their wallets and buy land


for wildlife preservation? If the golfers were not there, this would


just be part of the concrete jungle and the beavers would die.


I see these PETA and humane society weasels bitching about hunters but


hunters do far more to protect natural wildlife populations, preserve


habitat and actually set aside land than all the Volvo driving bark


eaters combined.




Maybe the armchair environmentalists should look at what we are doing


in Southwest Florida. The voters decided to create funds to buy up


habitat and put it in preservation., This wasn't a unilateral decision


by government or a "taking" of private property, it was a referendum


that created a dedicated taxing district for the purpose. Properties


are bought at market price, not stolen in eminent domain robberies.




There *is* a perfect habitat for the suckers, damn near across the street.



Put 'Huntley Meadows Park, Alexandria, VA' into Mapquest. Look just north - that's the golf course.

The park has all kinds of trees and water. But, the folks are not allowed to trap the beaver.



Stupid.


Salmonbait


I guess my question would be... were the beavers in the area before the golf course was built??

HankŠ[_2_] April 16th 13 04:01 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/2013 10:55 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/16/2013 10:29 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/16/13 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the
environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their
benefit for millions and
millions of years.

I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.

That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


I can't believe a PROGRESSIVE said that.


One who brags about his strip mall ownership.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

That mall is considered urban blight, not prime critter habitat unless
you are considering snakes and rats.

F.O.A.D. April 16th 13 04:05 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:29:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:23 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.

I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.


That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


You are out in the boonies, compared to areas closer to DC.

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


I'm not *depending* upon self-described "sportsmen" to do anything other
than slaughter defenseless animals. You don't really think Ducks
Unlimited, et al, are interested in anything more than ways to provide
more critters to shoot. It isn't altruism. I appreciated the land
set-asides, but I know what is behind them.

I think if you have a golf course, you should be willing to share it
with whatever wildlife manages to hang on there by its fingernails.



F.O.A.D. April 16th 13 04:56 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 April 2013 11:46:32 UTC-3, John H wrote:


Put 'Huntley Meadows Park, Alexandria, VA' into Mapquest. Look just north - that's the golf course.
The park has all kinds of trees and water. But, the folks are not allowed to trap the beaver.
Stupid.


I guess my question would be... were the beavers in the area before the golf course was built??


I lived right across the river from there for 38 years and I never
heard about beavers anywhere near DC.
The first beaver I ever saw was in upstate New York.




I recall a couple of beaver dams pointed out by scout leaders during
camping events when I was a cub scout in New Haven.

F.O.A.D. April 16th 13 05:13 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:05:09 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:56 AM,
wrote:

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


I'm not *depending* upon self-described "sportsmen" to do anything other
than slaughter defenseless animals. You don't really think Ducks
Unlimited, et al, are interested in anything more than ways to provide
more critters to shoot. It isn't altruism. I appreciated the land
set-asides, but I know what is behind them.

I think if you have a golf course, you should be willing to share it
with whatever wildlife manages to hang on there by its fingernails.


If you are not actively preserving habitat, you are depending on the
people who do. That is the sportsman you seem to hate. If they
stopped, these animals would be gone.

The classic example of this is the big game hunting ranches in Texas.
They are the only ones who are preserving species that are rapidly
going extinct in the wild. It is a managed population. PETA says they
would rather have them extinct than have someone shoot one
occasionally.

I guess they never saw a lion take down a grazing animal. If so they
would never say hunting was cruel.


Is there something wrong with preserving habitat for the sake of
preserving habitat, without having the slaughter of animals as a motivator?

Managed population is a euphemistic way of saying canned hunt.

Lions take down grazing animals to eat and survive, not for sport. I was
fairly neutral on "hunting" until a decade or so ago, when I saw a TV
video of a "brave hunter" shooting and killing some distance away a
sheep with fancy horns. What a brave man.

J Herring April 16th 13 05:23 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 April 2013 11:46:32 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:23:20 -0400, wrote:



On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:






And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....




Save it from what?




The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and


millions of years.




I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available


for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot


of land you can have.


Why don't these wild life lovers get up off their wallets and buy land


for wildlife preservation? If the golfers were not there, this would


just be part of the concrete jungle and the beavers would die.


I see these PETA and humane society weasels bitching about hunters but


hunters do far more to protect natural wildlife populations, preserve


habitat and actually set aside land than all the Volvo driving bark


eaters combined.




Maybe the armchair environmentalists should look at what we are doing


in Southwest Florida. The voters decided to create funds to buy up


habitat and put it in preservation., This wasn't a unilateral decision


by government or a "taking" of private property, it was a referendum


that created a dedicated taxing district for the purpose. Properties


are bought at market price, not stolen in eminent domain robberies.




There *is* a perfect habitat for the suckers, damn near across the street.



Put 'Huntley Meadows Park, Alexandria, VA' into Mapquest. Look just north - that's the golf course.

The park has all kinds of trees and water. But, the folks are not allowed to trap the beaver.



Stupid.


Salmonbait


I guess my question would be... were the beavers in the area before the golf course was built??


Well, bears probably roamed your neighborhood before it became your neighborhood.

Would they be welcome now?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


J Herring April 16th 13 05:33 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:13:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:05:09 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:56 AM,
wrote:

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


I'm not *depending* upon self-described "sportsmen" to do anything other
than slaughter defenseless animals. You don't really think Ducks
Unlimited, et al, are interested in anything more than ways to provide
more critters to shoot. It isn't altruism. I appreciated the land
set-asides, but I know what is behind them.

I think if you have a golf course, you should be willing to share it
with whatever wildlife manages to hang on there by its fingernails.


If you are not actively preserving habitat, you are depending on the
people who do. That is the sportsman you seem to hate. If they
stopped, these animals would be gone.

The classic example of this is the big game hunting ranches in Texas.
They are the only ones who are preserving species that are rapidly
going extinct in the wild. It is a managed population. PETA says they
would rather have them extinct than have someone shoot one
occasionally.

I guess they never saw a lion take down a grazing animal. If so they
would never say hunting was cruel.


Is there something wrong with preserving habitat for the sake of
preserving habitat, without having the slaughter of animals as a motivator?

Managed population is a euphemistic way of saying canned hunt.

Lions take down grazing animals to eat and survive, not for sport. I was
fairly neutral on "hunting" until a decade or so ago, when I saw a TV
video of a "brave hunter" shooting and killing some distance away a
sheep with fancy horns. What a brave man.


You're right, ESAD, we keep forgetting what a perfect specimen of mankind you happen to be.

Got 'special circumstances'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Urin Asshole April 16th 13 07:13 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:23:20 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....


Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.


I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.
Why don't these wild life lovers get up off their wallets and buy land
for wildlife preservation? If the golfers were not there, this would
just be part of the concrete jungle and the beavers would die.
I see these PETA and humane society weasels bitching about hunters but
hunters do far more to protect natural wildlife populations, preserve
habitat and actually set aside land than all the Volvo driving bark
eaters combined.

Maybe the armchair environmentalists should look at what we are doing
in Southwest Florida. The voters decided to create funds to buy up
habitat and put it in preservation., This wasn't a unilateral decision
by government or a "taking" of private property, it was a referendum
that created a dedicated taxing district for the purpose. Properties
are bought at market price, not stolen in eminent domain robberies.


Never heard of the Nature Conservancy? They do exactly this sort of
thing and have been doing it for a long time. Too ****ing bad there's
a beaver on your golf course. Too ****ing bad.

Equating PETA with the Humane Society is complete and total bull****,
nothing new from the likes of you.

Urin Asshole April 16th 13 07:15 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:05:09 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:29:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:23 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.

I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.

That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


You are out in the boonies, compared to areas closer to DC.

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


I'm not *depending* upon self-described "sportsmen" to do anything other
than slaughter defenseless animals. You don't really think Ducks
Unlimited, et al, are interested in anything more than ways to provide
more critters to shoot. It isn't altruism. I appreciated the land
set-asides, but I know what is behind them.

I think if you have a golf course, you should be willing to share it
with whatever wildlife manages to hang on there by its fingernails.


Yeah... last I understood it, a beaver's work would be considered a
natural hazard. Too bad Gregor is a ****ty golfer.

F.O.A.D. April 16th 13 09:14 PM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 3:35 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:13:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 11:55 AM,
wrote:

The classic example of this is the big game hunting ranches in Texas.
They are the only ones who are preserving species that are rapidly
going extinct in the wild. It is a managed population. PETA says they
would rather have them extinct than have someone shoot one
occasionally.

I guess they never saw a lion take down a grazing animal. If so they
would never say hunting was cruel.


Is there something wrong with preserving habitat for the sake of
preserving habitat, without having the slaughter of animals as a motivator?


John is creating habitat hitting a little white ball, you deride that
too.
The problem is land costs money and the tree huggers always what to
"save" someone else's land. There is no Sierra Club or PETA game
preserve. That is why I am proud of SW Florida for actually voting to
buy conservation land. It is pretty rare.

Managed population is a euphemistic way of saying canned hunt.


OK. so?

Lions take down grazing animals to eat and survive, not for sport. I was
fairly neutral on "hunting" until a decade or so ago, when I saw a TV
video of a "brave hunter" shooting and killing some distance away a
sheep with fancy horns. What a brave man.


So what. There is still a breeding population.


Perhaps if "hunter sportsmen" had to down and slaughter their prey with
a hunting knife it might be hunting and sporting.

Tim April 17th 13 12:01 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Apr 15, 12:18*pm, Urin Asshole wrote:


One death is too many!! :-)


And the beaver took it over the edge.

Tim April 17th 13 12:08 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Apr 15, 11:51*am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?


Ban beavers!


How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?


No. And neither do bomb blasts in Boston which have killed at least
three (probably more to follow ) and injured over a hundred, dropped
stock market points and raised a general fear in the nation.

Of course , no one has heard your satirical outcry about that.

Maybe you know something at no one else does. Were those bombs made,
set, and detonated by registered republicans?

F.O.A.D. April 17th 13 12:52 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
Tim wrote:
On Apr 15, 11:51 am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?


Ban beavers!


How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?


No. And neither do bomb blasts in Boston which have killed at least
three (probably more to follow ) and injured over a hundred, dropped
stock market points and raised a general fear in the nation.

Of course , no one has heard your satirical outcry about that.

Maybe you know something at no one else does. Were those bombs made,
set, and detonated by registered republicans?


Good guess. 😄

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 17th 13 01:00 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/2013 3:35 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:13:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 11:55 AM,
wrote:

The classic example of this is the big game hunting ranches in Texas.
They are the only ones who are preserving species that are rapidly
going extinct in the wild. It is a managed population. PETA says they
would rather have them extinct than have someone shoot one
occasionally.

I guess they never saw a lion take down a grazing animal. If so they
would never say hunting was cruel.


Is there something wrong with preserving habitat for the sake of
preserving habitat, without having the slaughter of animals as a motivator?


John is creating habitat hitting a little white ball, you deride that
too.
The problem is land costs money and the tree huggers always what to
"save" someone else's land. There is no Sierra Club or PETA game
preserve. That is why I am proud of SW Florida for actually voting to
buy conservation land. It is pretty rare.

Managed population is a euphemistic way of saying canned hunt.


OK. so?

Lions take down grazing animals to eat and survive, not for sport. I was
fairly neutral on "hunting" until a decade or so ago, when I saw a TV
video of a "brave hunter" shooting and killing some distance away a
sheep with fancy horns. What a brave man.


So what. There is still a breeding population.


If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.

Urin Asshole April 17th 13 01:14 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 15, 12:18*pm, Urin Asshole wrote:


One death is too many!! :-)


And the beaver took it over the edge.


Wasn't the guy harassing the beaver? Seems about right.

Urin Asshole April 17th 13 01:16 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:08:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 15, 11:51*am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?


Ban beavers!


How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?


No. And neither do bomb blasts in Boston which have killed at least
three (probably more to follow ) and injured over a hundred, dropped
stock market points and raised a general fear in the nation.

Of course , no one has heard your satirical outcry about that.

Maybe you know something at no one else does. Were those bombs made,
set, and detonated by registered republicans?


Dont' know if they're registered or not, but I seriously doubt it was
a registered or unregistered dem.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 17th 13 01:30 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/2013 8:16 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:08:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 15, 11:51 am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...

See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!

How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?


No. And neither do bomb blasts in Boston which have killed at least
three (probably more to follow ) and injured over a hundred, dropped
stock market points and raised a general fear in the nation.

Of course , no one has heard your satirical outcry about that.

Maybe you know something at no one else does. Were those bombs made,
set, and detonated by registered republicans?


Dont' know if they're registered or not, but I seriously doubt it was
a registered or unregistered dem.


Yeah, they have been doing all the shootings lately and the mass
killings at baby killing mills..

F.O.A.D. April 17th 13 02:09 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
On 4/16/13 8:30 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/16/2013 8:16 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:08:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 15, 11:51 am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...acks-and-kills...


See what happens when you walk up to a beaver that hasn't been ID
tagged with the Conservation Department?

Ban beavers!

How shallow and dense of you.

Does this happen 30,000+ times each year in the US?

No. And neither do bomb blasts in Boston which have killed at least
three (probably more to follow ) and injured over a hundred, dropped
stock market points and raised a general fear in the nation.

Of course , no one has heard your satirical outcry about that.

Maybe you know something at no one else does. Were those bombs made,
set, and detonated by registered republicans?


Dont' know if they're registered or not, but I seriously doubt it was
a registered or unregistered dem.


Yeah, they have been doing all the shootings lately and the mass
killings at baby killing mills..



PsychoSnotty!

BAR[_2_] April 17th 13 03:38 AM

Man killed by unregistered beaver
 
In article , says...

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:29:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:23 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:59 -0400, BAR wrote:


And you wonder why I think it's a good idea to save the environment.....

Save it from what?

The animals of the earth have been using the enviornment for their benefit for millions and
millions of years.

I think it is ironic that the only habitat that seems to be available
for these animals is the golf course, perhaps the most unnatural plot
of land you can have.


That's not true. We've seen beavers in the creekbed behind our house. It
most definitely is not a golf course. One of the problems is that more
and more "critter habitat" is being chopped down and clear cut, and the
critters simply have nowhere to go.

I'd rather see an untouched wooded area than another area mowed down for
another golf course or shopping center.


You are out in the boonies, compared to areas closer to DC.

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


Don't forget about the IWLA.


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