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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:00:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. There's no causation between the two. Most obvious example is Japanese society. They have plenty of and even more vid games that are violent and abberant, but they have a much lower violent crime rate. It sounds good, but it just isn't real. Canada also. There are lots of examples, as Hollywood **** is everywhere. |
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On 4/4/13 5:47 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:00:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. There's no causation between the two. Most obvious example is Japanese society. They have plenty of and even more vid games that are violent and abberant, but they have a much lower violent crime rate. It sounds good, but it just isn't real. Canada also. There are lots of examples, as Hollywood **** is everywhere. That's why I asked about it in an earlier response to Eisboch. I've never seen a really good study on a direct connection. |
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On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... |
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On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? |
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On 4/4/2013 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. Your insults don't impress me... take it to someone who cares what you think. |
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On 4/4/13 6:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/4/2013 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. Your insults don't impress me... take it to someone who cares what you think. It's a fact. I posted a simple question and your inability to comprehend what you read sent you off on a fallacious tangent. That's fallacious, not fellatio. |
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:56:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/4/13 5:47 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:00:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. There's no causation between the two. Most obvious example is Japanese society. They have plenty of and even more vid games that are violent and abberant, but they have a much lower violent crime rate. It sounds good, but it just isn't real. Canada also. There are lots of examples, as Hollywood **** is everywhere. That's why I asked about it in an earlier response to Eisboch. I've never seen a really good study on a direct connection. That's because there isn't one... except inside justhates head. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. ------------------------------------------------ Apparently there is, at least by doctors and mental health experts. The discussion this morning was with Campbell Brown who wrote an opinion piece on the subject for the Wall Street Journal. (a link to the article is provided below that includes the reports by doctors and mental health people). But Harry, we don't need studies, surveys and polls to validate common sense in rationally thinking people. The level of gory violence in some PG-13 rated movies and certainly in some of the video games that young people play have served to desensitize them to the sight and sound of heads exploding, blood spurting, brains spattering and other horrific (and very realistic) violent scenes. I've seen some of the video games that young people play. I couldn't believe it. Things have changed since "101 Dalmatians" Brown makes an interesting point. In Europe, violence on TV is regulated but sex and nudity is tolerated much more so than in the US. In the US, the opposite is true with the FCC highly regulating broadcast TV sex, nudity and vulgarity but has no standards on the regulation of violence. The movie industry is self-regulating (ha ha ha) with their "voluntary" ratings. Video game programmers and manufacturers are free to do whatever they want. Cable TV can pretty much do what they want also. To disregard the media as having an affect on young people's minds (or even old people's minds in some cases) because no acceptable "study" has been done is burying your head in the sand, IMO. Here's the link to the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...144082092.html |
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On 4/4/13 7:27 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. ------------------------------------------------ Apparently there is, at least by doctors and mental health experts. The discussion this morning was with Campbell Brown who wrote an opinion piece on the subject for the Wall Street Journal. (a link to the article is provided below that includes the reports by doctors and mental health people). But Harry, we don't need studies, surveys and polls to validate common sense in rationally thinking people. The level of gory violence in some PG-13 rated movies and certainly in some of the video games that young people play have served to desensitize them to the sight and sound of heads exploding, blood spurting, brains spattering and other horrific (and very realistic) violent scenes. I've seen some of the video games that young people play. I couldn't believe it. Things have changed since "101 Dalmatians" Brown makes an interesting point. In Europe, violence on TV is regulated but sex and nudity is tolerated much more so than in the US. In the US, the opposite is true with the FCC highly regulating broadcast TV sex, nudity and vulgarity but has no standards on the regulation of violence. The movie industry is self-regulating (ha ha ha) with their "voluntary" ratings. Video game programmers and manufacturers are free to do whatever they want. Cable TV can pretty much do what they want also. To disregard the media as having an affect on young people's minds (or even old people's minds in some cases) because no acceptable "study" has been done is burying your head in the sand, IMO. Here's the link to the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...144082092.html I'll look for cites on some studies. But it seems that most of the mass shootings are more closely connected to the mental health problems of the shooters. That was true in the Giffords case, the Colorado theater shootings, the Virginia Tech shootings, the recent Connecticut school shootings. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? --------------------------------------------------- One of the problems I have with modern liberals is that everything has to be proven true with studies (usually government funded) surveys or polls. What ever happened to common sense? |
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On 4/4/2013 6:35 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 6:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. Your insults don't impress me... take it to someone who cares what you think. It's a fact. I posted a simple question and your inability to comprehend what you read sent you off on a fallacious tangent. That's fallacious, not fellatio. Wow, word of the day... How impressive. There is nothing I care to answer for your drunken ass... Now go back and drink while your kids burn in their beds... |
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On 4/4/13 7:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? --------------------------------------------------- One of the problems I have with modern liberals is that everything has to be proven true with studies (usually government funded) surveys or polls. What ever happened to common sense? Common sense may be common, but it doesn't follow that it makes sense. A properly done study can reveal the truthfulness or falsity of a belief. |
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On 4/4/13 7:48 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/4/2013 6:35 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. Your insults don't impress me... take it to someone who cares what you think. It's a fact. I posted a simple question and your inability to comprehend what you read sent you off on a fallacious tangent. That's fallacious, not fellatio. Wow, word of the day... How impressive. There is nothing I care to answer for your drunken ass... Now go back and drink while your kids burn in their beds... It's okay with me that you want to continue in your stupid, ignorant ways. Makes for grins and giggles. |
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On 4/4/2013 7:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 7:48 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 6:35 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 6:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/4/2013 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. You are a moron... Every 10 year old that has access to a tv knows how to use a weapon, clear a room, knows swat tactics, knows plenty to pull off a successful mass murder because they have been taught each and every bit of it by hollywood and atari... Like your father here, John the Racist, you have no reading comprehension skills. Your insults don't impress me... take it to someone who cares what you think. It's a fact. I posted a simple question and your inability to comprehend what you read sent you off on a fallacious tangent. That's fallacious, not fellatio. Wow, word of the day... How impressive. There is nothing I care to answer for your drunken ass... Now go back and drink while your kids burn in their beds... It's okay with me that you want to continue in your stupid, ignorant ways. Makes for grins and giggles. Your drunken rants are much more fun.. Say, beat your wife's head in lately??? Mystery disease,,, pfffftttt... |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 7:27 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. ------------------------------------------------ Apparently there is, at least by doctors and mental health experts. The discussion this morning was with Campbell Brown who wrote an opinion piece on the subject for the Wall Street Journal. (a link to the article is provided below that includes the reports by doctors and mental health people). But Harry, we don't need studies, surveys and polls to validate common sense in rationally thinking people. The level of gory violence in some PG-13 rated movies and certainly in some of the video games that young people play have served to desensitize them to the sight and sound of heads exploding, blood spurting, brains spattering and other horrific (and very realistic) violent scenes. I've seen some of the video games that young people play. I couldn't believe it. Things have changed since "101 Dalmatians" Brown makes an interesting point. In Europe, violence on TV is regulated but sex and nudity is tolerated much more so than in the US. In the US, the opposite is true with the FCC highly regulating broadcast TV sex, nudity and vulgarity but has no standards on the regulation of violence. The movie industry is self-regulating (ha ha ha) with their "voluntary" ratings. Video game programmers and manufacturers are free to do whatever they want. Cable TV can pretty much do what they want also. To disregard the media as having an affect on young people's minds (or even old people's minds in some cases) because no acceptable "study" has been done is burying your head in the sand, IMO. Here's the link to the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...144082092.html I'll look for cites on some studies. But it seems that most of the mass shootings are more closely connected to the mental health problems of the shooters. That was true in the Giffords case, the Colorado theater shootings, the Virginia Tech shootings, the recent Connecticut school shootings. --------------------------------------------- You don't have to do a study to see the effects of media violence on youngsters today and you don't need mass shootings to witness it. Non-lethal general violence in schools is on the rise that includes simple fights and more serious personal attacks. My daughter has two boys, one in the eighth grade and the other a sophomore in high school. This is the same school system that she graduated from along with my oldest son. Nothing compares to what it was like then and now. And the drugs. Unreal. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 7:47 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? --------------------------------------------------- One of the problems I have with modern liberals is that everything has to be proven true with studies (usually government funded) surveys or polls. What ever happened to common sense? Common sense may be common, but it doesn't follow that it makes sense. A properly done study can reveal the truthfulness or falsity of a belief. ---------------------------------------- Well, while some await the results of their various studies before taking action, I'll exercise some common sense. It has served me well. |
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On 4/4/2013 8:02 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 7:27 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/4/13 5:00 PM, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world. I know that from time to time such media is pointed out as the cause, but where is the proof? The Connecticut shooter, I understand, played violent media games, but he seemed to be suffering from mental illnesses. Media doesn't cause mental illness. ------------------------------------------------ Apparently there is, at least by doctors and mental health experts. The discussion this morning was with Campbell Brown who wrote an opinion piece on the subject for the Wall Street Journal. (a link to the article is provided below that includes the reports by doctors and mental health people). But Harry, we don't need studies, surveys and polls to validate common sense in rationally thinking people. The level of gory violence in some PG-13 rated movies and certainly in some of the video games that young people play have served to desensitize them to the sight and sound of heads exploding, blood spurting, brains spattering and other horrific (and very realistic) violent scenes. I've seen some of the video games that young people play. I couldn't believe it. Things have changed since "101 Dalmatians" Brown makes an interesting point. In Europe, violence on TV is regulated but sex and nudity is tolerated much more so than in the US. In the US, the opposite is true with the FCC highly regulating broadcast TV sex, nudity and vulgarity but has no standards on the regulation of violence. The movie industry is self-regulating (ha ha ha) with their "voluntary" ratings. Video game programmers and manufacturers are free to do whatever they want. Cable TV can pretty much do what they want also. To disregard the media as having an affect on young people's minds (or even old people's minds in some cases) because no acceptable "study" has been done is burying your head in the sand, IMO. Here's the link to the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...144082092.html I'll look for cites on some studies. But it seems that most of the mass shootings are more closely connected to the mental health problems of the shooters. That was true in the Giffords case, the Colorado theater shootings, the Virginia Tech shootings, the recent Connecticut school shootings. --------------------------------------------- You don't have to do a study to see the effects of media violence on youngsters today and you don't need mass shootings to witness it. Non-lethal general violence in schools is on the rise that includes simple fights and more serious personal attacks. My daughter has two boys, one in the eighth grade and the other a sophomore in high school. This is the same school system that she graduated from along with my oldest son. Nothing compares to what it was like then and now. And the drugs. Unreal. Harry can't rationalize or come to conclusions without direction. That's why unions are such a good fit for him. |
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:00:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"True North" wrote in message ... I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. ------------------------------------------ Where did you hear or read that? Simply not true. Interesting discussion on "Morning Joe" this morning about violence on TV, in movies and in video games. All the media focus is on the NRA lobbying for gun manufacturers yet many of the vocal supporters (usually Hollywood liberals) of more gun controls are the same ones acting in, producing, marketing and profiting by some of the most horrifically violent shows, movies and video games ever made, many targeted at young viewers. Like his buddy, he enjoys taking cheap potshots at the military. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:51:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/4/13 7:47 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? --------------------------------------------------- One of the problems I have with modern liberals is that everything has to be proven true with studies (usually government funded) surveys or polls. What ever happened to common sense? Common sense may be common, but it doesn't follow that it makes sense. A properly done study can reveal the truthfulness or falsity of a belief. A 'properly done study' will invariably reflect the views of those paying for the study. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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On Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:08:31 PM UTC-4, Hank© wrote:
Harry can't rationalize or come to conclusions without direction. That's why unions are such a good fit for him. LOL! That was great. You can take a break for the rest of the evening now.. |
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:47:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... The question was, "Is there some quality, independent evidence that proves that violent movies, TV shows, and video games *cause* acts of violence in the real world?" Do you happen to know the meaning of the word, *cause* ? --------------------------------------------------- One of the problems I have with modern liberals is that everything has to be proven true with studies (usually government funded) surveys or polls. What ever happened to common sense? ==== Not everything has to be proven in a study, just those issues they are not passionate about. Take gun control legislation for example. Where are the studies there? |
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On 4/5/13 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 4/4/2013 12:56 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/4/13 12:53 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:38:49 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 4/4/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Oh, I definitely was a persona non grata at a Maryland gun discussion board, and I am proud of it. I was tossed because I was NOT opposed to background checks on gun purchasers and mandatory safety training for first time gun purchasers, and I said so. I made the mistake of thinking the "boys" there were rational. I do read and post on two other gun discussion boards. Apparently there are fewer crazies there. Apparently, you have a lot of experience getting tossed from discussion groups. The Android forum is just one other example. I 'really' believe he was tossed because of his lack of opposition to background checks and being pro safety training. What a crock. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. And once again you prove you cannot comprehend what you read. "I was tossed because I was NOT opposed to background checks on gun purchasers and mandatory safety training for first time gun purchasers, and I said so." Apparently he who laughs last does laugh best. Some of the boys on that Maryland gun discussion board must be having strokes over what is about to happen in this state. :) You were tossed for being a political troll... period. If this group were moderated, you'd be tossed for being a vulgar, low class racist. The "gun boys" don't like those who don't entirely accept their catechism. They really, really disliked background checks. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The "gun boys" don't like those who don't entirely accept their catechism. ---------------------------------------------- The same can be said about many liberals. |
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On 4/5/2013 8:34 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The "gun boys" don't like those who don't entirely accept their catechism. They really, really disliked background checks. Aren't you a gun boy? |
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:25:09 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... The "gun boys" don't like those who don't entirely accept their catechism. ---------------------------------------------- The same can be said about many liberals. Depends on the definition of many. Compared to right wingtards percentage wise, I'd say not many. |
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:05:44 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:38:49 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 4/4/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Oh, I definitely was a persona non grata at a Maryland gun discussion board, and I am proud of it. I was tossed because I was NOT opposed to background checks on gun purchasers and mandatory safety training for first time gun purchasers, and I said so. I made the mistake of thinking the "boys" there were rational. I do read and post on two other gun discussion boards. Apparently there are fewer crazies there. Apparently, you have a lot of experience getting tossed from discussion groups. The Android forum is just one other example. I 'really' believe he was tossed because of his lack of opposition to background checks and being pro safety training. What a crock. Salmonbait Ah, the right wing narrow minded....... Oppose background checks to possess a weapon made to kill people, science is like voodoo, and women are too stupid to make decisions about their bodies. Why is the right to vote not background checked? Shouldn't we be able to exeercise our rights, all of them, without having to constantly ask and receive permission from the government? Do you want to rethink your two questions? I really think you're an unthinking ditto head. The only redeeming feature about what you wrote is that the two sentences are in two paragraphs. |
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True North wrote:
I hope there's something to limit ex-military from stockpiling firearms. Seems like every time there's a mass shooting by someone over 35, turns out he's a vet. Really? |
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