The internet, was Argentina
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 3 Apr 2013 15:33:40 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

Why do you like to bull**** about safeties?

And, didn't you mean to say, "...when *we* were making war...", ESAD?

I'm surprised to see that the reason safeties are so important to you is because the military uses
them. You should have just stated that up front, rather than attempt to impress everyone with your
bull**** rationale. And, by the way, I don't recall *ever* using the thumb safety on my ,45 - either
on or off the range.

Just what do you do with your pistol on the range after you've chambered a round and are ready to
fire, but need to put the thumb safety on? Huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/13 11:50 AM, J Herring wrote:
On 3 Apr 2013 15:33:40 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

Why do you like to bull**** about safeties?

And, didn't you mean to say, "...when *we* were making war...", ESAD?

I'm surprised to see that the reason safeties are so important to you is because the military uses
them. You should have just stated that up front, rather than attempt to impress everyone with your
bull**** rationale. And, by the way, I don't recall *ever* using the thumb safety on my ,45 - either
on or off the range.

Just what do you do with your pistol on the range after you've chambered a round and are ready to
fire, but need to put the thumb safety on? Huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'm still not going to play your idiotic game here, herring, no matter
how many times you try. And my guess is that you know so little about
firearms, you didn't know what that lever on your 45 was for.

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:27:17 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:46:32 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/1/2013 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/1/13 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:52:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Mark Sanford well positioned to win South Carolina GOP runoff

It looks like marital infidelity is not an issue anymore for
politicians ... if it ever really was.

Bunga Bunga


Nor is lying to the voters about where you were and who was paying for it.

True
I think the same guy who made extramarital sex OK made lying about it
OK too. I don't remember who that was.


I think it was the one that let the economy ride on the phony dot coms
and took credit for it along with Al Gore of course.. Without Al and his
inventing the internet, Clinton could have never invented the mortgage
crisis.... er I mean, dot com boom...LOL!

You ****ing moron. Gore was one of the driving forces behind the
internet.

Ah, no! Gore was not one of the driving forces behind the Internet. Electronic Commerce was
the driving force behind the Internet's ascendency. The ability to reduce variable costs was
and inprove communications was the the driving force.

Try again. You're just wrong.

No, I am not. I worked for companies who were developing equipment for the Internet in the
late 80's and early 90's. I have the Lucite trinkets to prove it. Most of our potential sales
were to commercial corporations who needed to inter-connect their internal PCs and other
computer assets to make far greater use of their compute investments. Bridges and Routers
where the needed items within and at the borders of the Intranets to enable the Internet to
explode.

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 11:50 AM, J Herring wrote:
On 3 Apr 2013 15:33:40 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

Why do you like to bull**** about safeties?

And, didn't you mean to say, "...when *we* were making war...", ESAD?

I'm surprised to see that the reason safeties are so important to you is because the military uses
them. You should have just stated that up front, rather than attempt to impress everyone with your
bull**** rationale. And, by the way, I don't recall *ever* using the thumb safety on my ,45 - either
on or off the range.

Just what do you do with your pistol on the range after you've chambered a round and are ready to
fire, but need to put the thumb safety on? Huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'm still not going to play your idiotic game here, herring, no matter
how many times you try. And my guess is that you know so little about
firearms, you didn't know what that lever on your 45 was for.

Of course you're not. You made a fool of yourself. Quitting is the best out for you.

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?


Changing the subject? Hee, hee!

Why don't you give us your 'safety' rationale again. It was cute. Might have even impressed a few
folks.

Donnie, were you impressed?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/13 1:03 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 11:50 AM, J Herring wrote:
On 3 Apr 2013 15:33:40 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

Why do you like to bull**** about safeties?

And, didn't you mean to say, "...when *we* were making war...", ESAD?

I'm surprised to see that the reason safeties are so important to you is because the military uses
them. You should have just stated that up front, rather than attempt to impress everyone with your
bull**** rationale. And, by the way, I don't recall *ever* using the thumb safety on my ,45 - either
on or off the range.

Just what do you do with your pistol on the range after you've chambered a round and are ready to
fire, but need to put the thumb safety on? Huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'm still not going to play your idiotic game here, herring, no matter
how many times you try. And my guess is that you know so little about
firearms, you didn't know what that lever on your 45 was for.

Of course you're not. You made a fool of yourself. Quitting is the best out for you.

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?


Changing the subject? Hee, hee!

Why don't you give us your 'safety' rationale again. It was cute. Might have even impressed a few
folks.

Donnie, were you impressed?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/13 1:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 9:51 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.


As a conversational medium, usenet is dead, dead, dead. Perfect example:
rec.boats.cruising. Other than Skip's continuing saga of the rebuilding
of his sailboat, the only other commentaries in there come from a bunch
of anonymous posters whining about another poster, and a guy selling
books or something like it.

I'm still in rec.boats because I actually want to be here on the day it
finally dies.

For "conversation" and exchanging of information, moderated groups are
the way to go. Hell, even Facebook is better than usenet. And with
moderated groups and Facebook, you can include photos, maps, directions,
whatever, along with your posts. I go up to Connecticut shoreline towns
twice a year now to attend gatherings, parties, et cetera, with old
classmates and other friends from the area, and these social events are
a result of our finding each other on Facebook.


There are still some moderated newsgroups. There are also quite a few
that do not attract much OT content.

Most of my professional conversations are on moderated forums.


I visit moderated sites for discussions or information about boats,
computers, cellphones, firearms, photography, politics, et cetera, and I
visit Facebook for badinage. I like venues where one can also post
photos, maps, charts, cartoons, whatever, directly, without having to
deal with URLs and offsite posting facilities. There are only a couple
of posters here whose scribblings interest me. I read several others
just for giggles.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/2013 1:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

He hasn't mentioned any problems with his outboard. You're a smart boy.
I'm sure you can figure it out.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/2013 1:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/3/13 1:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 9:51 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.


As a conversational medium, usenet is dead, dead, dead. Perfect example:
rec.boats.cruising. Other than Skip's continuing saga of the rebuilding
of his sailboat, the only other commentaries in there come from a bunch
of anonymous posters whining about another poster, and a guy selling
books or something like it.

I'm still in rec.boats because I actually want to be here on the day it
finally dies.

For "conversation" and exchanging of information, moderated groups are
the way to go. Hell, even Facebook is better than usenet. And with
moderated groups and Facebook, you can include photos, maps, directions,
whatever, along with your posts. I go up to Connecticut shoreline towns
twice a year now to attend gatherings, parties, et cetera, with old
classmates and other friends from the area, and these social events are
a result of our finding each other on Facebook.


There are still some moderated newsgroups. There are also quite a few
that do not attract much OT content.

Most of my professional conversations are on moderated forums.


I visit moderated sites for discussions or information about boats,
computers, cellphones, firearms, photography, politics, et cetera, and I
visit Facebook for badinage. I like venues where one can also post
photos, maps, charts, cartoons, whatever, directly, without having to
deal with URLs and offsite posting facilities. There are only a couple
of posters here whose scribblings interest me. I read several others
just for giggles.

Here's one you should try, that is if you haven't been thrown off it
already.

http://www.mdshooters.com/

Oops. I guess we know the answer to that one.

Here's the site you put up in retaliation. What a bitter old fart.

http://www.marylandshooter.com/

The internet, was Argentina
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:46:39 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 4/3/2013 1:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

He hasn't mentioned any problems with his outboard. You're a smart boy.
I'm sure you can figure it out.

He's sure proven his handgun safety knowledge!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

Impressed??
I'm impressed that you are still mobile and above ground considering how cavalier you are towards gun safety.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Impressed??
I'm impressed that you are still mobile and above ground considering how cavalier you are towards gun safety.

Perhaps you could enlighten us. ESAD tried and stuck his foot in his mouth, but surely you'll do
better.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

The best way to enlighten you is to convince you and your wife to forget about bringing handguns into your house.
Statistics say she would be the most likely victim of your cavalier attitude towards safety.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/13 2:54 PM, True North wrote:
The best way to enlighten you is to convince you and your wife to forget about bringing handguns into your house.
Statistics say she would be the most likely victim of your cavalier attitude towards safety.


On the other hand, Herring might come home late and drunk some night,
and she might shoot him, claiming afterwards she thought he was a
burglar. She's a nice woman and could get away with it.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

The best way to enlighten you is to convince you and your wife to forget about bringing handguns into your house.
Statistics say she would be the most likely victim of your cavalier attitude towards safety.

You're displaying about as much knowledge as ESAD.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

The internet, was Argentina
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 11:50 AM, J Herring wrote:
On 3 Apr 2013 15:33:40 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:51:25 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:47:02 -0400, wrote:

These days usenet is really the only wild west left.
The alt.binary groups are still virtually unregulated again, for
better or worse.

====

It's not clear to me how Usenet manages to survive. It has certainly
become a rather small niche. The MP3 binaries were mostly garbage the
last time I looked, helped along by the RIAA and MPAA no doubt. P2P
sharing seems to be the wave of the future.

There's a lot of good Bluegrass music out there!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Why do you like bluegrass?

Why do you like to bull**** about safeties?

And, didn't you mean to say, "...when *we* were making war...", ESAD?

I'm surprised to see that the reason safeties are so important to you is because the military uses
them. You should have just stated that up front, rather than attempt to impress everyone with your
bull**** rationale. And, by the way, I don't recall *ever* using the thumb safety on my ,45 - either
on or off the range.

Just what do you do with your pistol on the range after you've chambered a round and are ready to
fire, but need to put the thumb safety on? Huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'm still not going to play your idiotic game here, herring, no matter
how many times you try. And my guess is that you know so little about
firearms, you didn't know what that lever on your 45 was for.

Of course you're not. You made a fool of yourself. Quitting is the best out for you.

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?


Changing the subject? Hee, hee!

Why don't you give us your 'safety' rationale again. It was cute. Might have even impressed a few
folks.

Donnie, were you impressed?


Salmonbait

Oh, shut up for a change. Don't be safe, no one here gives a crap.

The internet, was Argentina
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

The best way to enlighten you is to convince you and your wife to forget about bringing handguns into your house.
Statistics say she would be the most likely victim of your cavalier attitude towards safety.

You're displaying about as much knowledge as ESAD.


Salmonbait

Are you saying that's not a true statement?

The internet, was Argentina
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:46:39 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 4/3/2013 1:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

He hasn't mentioned any problems with his outboard. You're a smart boy.
I'm sure you can figure it out.

He's sure proven his handgun safety knowledge!


Salmonbait

You've proven your knowledge of nothing that I've seen, except for what
FOX said.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/2013 2:21 PM, True North wrote:
Impressed??
I'm impressed that you are still mobile and above ground considering how cavalier you are towards gun safety.


I'm not impressed with your knowledge of protocol. Who the ell are you
talking to.

The internet, was Argentina
 

On 4/3/2013 3:21 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

The best way to enlighten you is to convince you and your wife to forget about bringing handguns into your house.
Statistics say she would be the most likely victim of your cavalier attitude towards safety.

You're displaying about as much knowledge as ESAD.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Was his stupid remark directed at you? I wish Donnie would learn how to
post.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore
was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

----------------------------------------------

Didn't the original concept evolve out of DARPA ? I think that
agency was instrumental in funding what became ARPANET.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:27:26 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Not defending anyone. Why do you feel the need to put him down?

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On 4/3/2013 1:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:27:17 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:46:32 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/1/2013 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/1/13 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:52:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Mark Sanford well positioned to win South Carolina GOP runoff

It looks like marital infidelity is not an issue anymore for
politicians ... if it ever really was.

Bunga Bunga


Nor is lying to the voters about where you were and who was paying for it.

True
I think the same guy who made extramarital sex OK made lying about it
OK too. I don't remember who that was.


I think it was the one that let the economy ride on the phony dot coms
and took credit for it along with Al Gore of course.. Without Al and his
inventing the internet, Clinton could have never invented the mortgage
crisis.... er I mean, dot com boom...LOL!

You ****ing moron. Gore was one of the driving forces behind the
internet.

Ah, no! Gore was not one of the driving forces behind the Internet. Electronic Commerce was
the driving force behind the Internet's ascendency. The ability to reduce variable costs was
and inprove communications was the the driving force.

Try again. You're just wrong.

No, I am not. I worked for companies who were developing equipment for the Internet in the
late 80's and early 90's. I have the Lucite trinkets to prove it. Most of our potential sales
were to commercial corporations who needed to inter-connect their internal PCs and other
computer assets to make far greater use of their compute investments. Bridges and Routers
where the needed items within and at the borders of the Intranets to enable the Internet to
explode.

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

In article , says...

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore
was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

----------------------------------------------

Didn't the original concept evolve out of DARPA ? I think that
agency was instrumental in funding what became ARPANET.

ARPA preceeds DARPA. There was ARPANET and then there was the Internet.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

In article , says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:27:26 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Not defending anyone. Why do you feel the need to put him down?

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology

Because he is a oppourtunist.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore
was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

----------------------------------------------

Didn't the original concept evolve out of DARPA ? I think that
agency was instrumental in funding what became ARPANET.

ARPA preceeds DARPA. There was ARPANET and then there was the Internet.

All correct. Never said Gore had the original concept. He never
claimed to invent the internet. Read up on the actual facts. They're
not hard to find, unless you're reading fox news website.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:55:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:27:26 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Not defending anyone. Why do you feel the need to put him down?

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology

Because he is a oppourtunist.

In what respect? Because he's a capitalist? I thought that was the
most important thing in your little existence.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:29:13 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/3/2013 1:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:27:17 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:46:32 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/1/2013 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/1/13 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:52:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Mark Sanford well positioned to win South Carolina GOP runoff

It looks like marital infidelity is not an issue anymore for
politicians ... if it ever really was.

Bunga Bunga


Nor is lying to the voters about where you were and who was paying for it.

True
I think the same guy who made extramarital sex OK made lying about it
OK too. I don't remember who that was.


I think it was the one that let the economy ride on the phony dot coms
and took credit for it along with Al Gore of course.. Without Al and his
inventing the internet, Clinton could have never invented the mortgage
crisis.... er I mean, dot com boom...LOL!

You ****ing moron. Gore was one of the driving forces behind the
internet.

Ah, no! Gore was not one of the driving forces behind the Internet. Electronic Commerce was
the driving force behind the Internet's ascendency. The ability to reduce variable costs was
and inprove communications was the the driving force.

Try again. You're just wrong.

No, I am not. I worked for companies who were developing equipment for the Internet in the
late 80's and early 90's. I have the Lucite trinkets to prove it. Most of our potential sales
were to commercial corporations who needed to inter-connect their internal PCs and other
computer assets to make far greater use of their compute investments. Bridges and Routers
where the needed items within and at the borders of the Intranets to enable the Internet to
explode.

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

Do you want me to agree or disagree with you?

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:23:46 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Not defending anyone. Why do you feel the need to put him down?

==========

I'm not a big fan of Al Gore for a number of reasons, not the least of
which was his overblown claim to have invented the internet. More
importantly, we mostly have Al Gore to thank for George Bush's
election to the presidency. Gore was such an incompetent candidate
for election that he couldn't even carry his own home state. In the
presidential debates he came across as unprepared, immature and naive.
He has also been an incredibly unconvincing spokesman for his favorite
cause: Global climate change. The whole debate surrounding the
various climate change issues has been tarnished by his advocacy.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

In article , says...

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore
was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

----------------------------------------------

Didn't the original concept evolve out of DARPA ? I think that
agency was instrumental in funding what became ARPANET.

ARPA preceeds DARPA. There was ARPANET and then there was the Internet.

All correct. Never said Gore had the original concept. He never
claimed to invent the internet. Read up on the actual facts. They're
not hard to find, unless you're reading fox news website.

The actual facts? I was there in the 80's and early 90's working on TCP/IP bridges and
routers and other TCP/IP components.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

In article , says...

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:55:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:27:26 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:00:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet. Your "experience" has nothing to
do with the underlying reasons for the internet's creation and
nurturing.

===

Why do you feel the need to defend Al Gore? The internet grew out of
ARPANET and TCP/IP which was a little before Al's time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Not defending anyone. Why do you feel the need to put him down?

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology

Because he is a oppourtunist.

In what respect? Because he's a capitalist? I thought that was the
most important thing in your little existence.

My little existence, that is cute.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

In article ,
says...

On 4/3/2013 1:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:27:17 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:46:32 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/1/2013 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/1/13 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:52:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Mark Sanford well positioned to win South Carolina GOP runoff

It looks like marital infidelity is not an issue anymore for
politicians ... if it ever really was.

Bunga Bunga


Nor is lying to the voters about where you were and who was paying for it.

True
I think the same guy who made extramarital sex OK made lying about it
OK too. I don't remember who that was.


I think it was the one that let the economy ride on the phony dot coms
and took credit for it along with Al Gore of course.. Without Al and his
inventing the internet, Clinton could have never invented the mortgage
crisis.... er I mean, dot com boom...LOL!

You ****ing moron. Gore was one of the driving forces behind the
internet.

Ah, no! Gore was not one of the driving forces behind the Internet. Electronic Commerce was
the driving force behind the Internet's ascendency. The ability to reduce variable costs was
and inprove communications was the the driving force.

Try again. You're just wrong.

No, I am not. I worked for companies who were developing equipment for the Internet in the
late 80's and early 90's. I have the Lucite trinkets to prove it. Most of our potential sales
were to commercial corporations who needed to inter-connect their internal PCs and other
computer assets to make far greater use of their compute investments. Bridges and Routers
where the needed items within and at the borders of the Intranets to enable the Internet to
explode.

Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On 4/4/2013 12:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

How bout talk about thumb safeties.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:12:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

How about sharing some of your 'special circumstances' for carrying with a round in the chamber.
That would be exciting, I'm sure.

And, don't read the posts if you find them boring. Do you really believe your cut'n'pastes are
exciting?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:41:24 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 4/4/2013 12:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

How bout talk about thumb safeties.

Good idea.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On 4/4/2013 12:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:12:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

How about sharing some of your 'special circumstances' for carrying with a round in the chamber.
That would be exciting, I'm sure.

And, don't read the posts if you find them boring. Do you really believe your cut'n'pastes are
exciting?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Oh, he's just mad because they aren't talking about him...

Don't keep crying for me, Argentina!
 

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:52:56 AM UTC-4, wrote:

Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.

The company I work for has done business with all of the Class I railroads in the US, some for over 30 years. Way back when, they owned and operated their own microwave backbones that spanned their entire rail networks, some covering 10+ states. With the advent of fiber, they all made deals with the telecoms to allow fiber to be installed in their track right-of-ways. Some negotiated for a certain amount of bandwidth, some for dark fiber. Of course, those microwave backbones are mostly just memories now.