On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:21:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 4/5/13 8:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote:


And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the
****ing
churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no
use
for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really
quite
sick in the head.

If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell
and
thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything,
they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the
lowliest
creature.

LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face...


Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours
LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant
at
the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for
anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so
hard
to keep the poor down?


Most of us lefties who are not "religious" have absolutely no
objections
to those who are religious and are courteous enough to not try to
shove
their religious beliefs in our faces. Certainly Tim is religious and
certainly it is fine with me if he wants to discuss his beliefs here.
It
is only offensive when the religious try to directly or indirectly
force
those beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all.

Here's an example.

Several times a year, members of the community of the religious ring
our
doorbell. Most of the time, the callers simply ask if we'd like to
come
to their church services or events. Sometimes they will leave behind a
flyer or brochure. We have no objection to that.

But once or twice a year, we're called upon by proselytizers, pushy
representatives of the religious who apparently are looking for
converts. "Have you found Jesus?" "Don't you want to?" "We have a
minister who is very good at speaking to non-believers." And much ore
and far worse. The anti-abortionists are particularly disgusting.

The latter are also the same people who try to use the legislative
processes to force their beliefs onto the general public.

Screw that and them.

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I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in
many different states and countries, including two years in your
general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only
approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit
or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The
"conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since.

I guess you have. We get the ****ing jesus freaks all the time. I
finally put a sign on the door that says no soliciting, including for
religion, and that helped, but some of those morons can't read I
guess.

Oh, we did have some neighbors in Florida who tried to encourage us to
attend their church but after a polite but firm refusal of interest by
us, it never happened again.

During the guitar shop adventure I've met many people who perform at
their church services. Some are "worship leaders". In fact my buddy
who took over the shop is very religious and often plays at his
church. Not once in the almost 5 years that I've known him has he
ever tried to influence me with any of his beliefs and we've had many
discussions about religion and faith in general. I have visited his
church from time to time however, mainly because they have a killer
10,000 watt sound system that was installed by one of the church
members who is also an acoustic engineer. The music played through
the system sounds incredibly good and the engineer has helped me with
some of the acoustic treatments for the new performance venue I am
involved with.


For the record, I don't give a **** what someone believes inside their
head. I do give a **** when they open their mouth and I have to listen
to it.