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JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:05 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

meyer March 19th 13 02:15 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:05:37 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote
On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch"

wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media

coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more

time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29

00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington

..

Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.



No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is

about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....


That's OK so long as they don't alter facts like Harry and JPS do.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 02:26 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


Uh, it was our insane fool buddy Scotty that posted that......

Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:28 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.



iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 02:28 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....


So... let me get this straight. It doesn't matter that a VERY well
respected, one of the best research centers in the world was the ones
who came up with the data, because the Huff post reported on it means
that it isn't credible???? Are you really that stupid? So, please show
what data you have that contradicts Pew's data.....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:36 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer ..... there's
at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results of
the same Pew Study.



Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported
"here"...

Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:43 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are
repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of
commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As
opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed
"lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong ....
of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most
sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are
all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative
"guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are
usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I
like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds
his own against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up
to him and he was canned.


Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:51 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is
about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's
at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results
of
the same Pew Study.



Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported
"here"...

------------------------------------------

Good grief man! *Who* dismissed Fox? Fox?

If think for a moment, the Pew Study actually presents Fox News in a
favorable light .... at least as compared to MSNBC .... in terms of
time spent presenting news versus time spent delivering opinionated
political commentary.



JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:52 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all
hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests"
or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually
used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like
Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own
against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to
him and he was canned.


Yes, republicans are treated like Bob on "The Five"... :) Punching bag
only they don't hate Bob...

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 03:06 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all
hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests"
or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually
used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like
Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own
against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to
him and he was canned.


I like Michael Steele, too. If he were running for office here in
Maryland and he were a Democrat and ran a decent campaign, I might vote
for him. He's a lot better as a commentator, though, than as a political
candidate. When he ran the last two times, his campaigns were really
sleazy.


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