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Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 11:40 AM

Facts or Opinions?
 
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 12:01 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 12:26 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 8:01 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...


D'oh, d'oh, and d'oh.

Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 12:44 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .



F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 12:47 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 8:44 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .




Ssssh...it's more fun watching him dangle on the hook... :)

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 01:07 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


And the "news" FOX reports on is, of course, only the news that helps
their bias.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 01:08 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...


Huffington post isn't the "source" moron, they reported it.

meyer March 19th 13 01:32 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:40:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media

coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and

15
percent on actual reporting of news events.



According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time

on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.



CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.



What a surprise.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html

Are you trying to agitate Harry and like minded fools?

meyer March 19th 13 01:35 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 01:38 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Scotty doesn't have the sense to actually learn, he just instantly
negates the reporting site as one he doesn't like, trying to make his
point.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:05 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

meyer March 19th 13 02:15 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:05:37 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote
On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch"

wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media

coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more

time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29

00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington

..

Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.



No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is

about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....


That's OK so long as they don't alter facts like Harry and JPS do.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 02:26 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


Uh, it was our insane fool buddy Scotty that posted that......

Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:28 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.



iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 02:28 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...



On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest

overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators

and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air

time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html



Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the

source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...



-----------------------------------



The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that
Huffington was just the vehicle.


No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....


So... let me get this straight. It doesn't matter that a VERY well
respected, one of the best research centers in the world was the ones
who came up with the data, because the Huff post reported on it means
that it isn't credible???? Are you really that stupid? So, please show
what data you have that contradicts Pew's data.....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:36 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer ..... there's
at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results of
the same Pew Study.



Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported
"here"...

Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:43 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are
repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of
commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As
opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed
"lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong ....
of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most
sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are
all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative
"guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are
usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I
like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds
his own against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up
to him and he was canned.


Eisboch[_8_] March 19th 13 02:51 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage


The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is
about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's
at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results
of
the same Pew Study.



Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported
"here"...

------------------------------------------

Good grief man! *Who* dismissed Fox? Fox?

If think for a moment, the Pew Study actually presents Fox News in a
favorable light .... at least as compared to MSNBC .... in terms of
time spent presenting news versus time spent delivering opinionated
political commentary.



JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 02:52 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all
hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests"
or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually
used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like
Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own
against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to
him and he was canned.


Yes, republicans are treated like Bob on "The Five"... :) Punching bag
only they don't hate Bob...

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 03:06 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all
hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests"
or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually
used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like
Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own
against the liberal attacks.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to
him and he was canned.


I like Michael Steele, too. If he were running for office here in
Maryland and he were a Democrat and ran a decent campaign, I might vote
for him. He's a lot better as a commentator, though, than as a political
candidate. When he ran the last two times, his campaigns were really
sleazy.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 03:54 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


-----------------------------------------------

No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is
about
as credible messenger as National Enquirer....

----------------------------------------------

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's
at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results
of
the same Pew Study.



Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported
"here"...

------------------------------------------

Good grief man! *Who* dismissed Fox? Fox?

If think for a moment, the Pew Study actually presents Fox News in a
favorable light .... at least as compared to MSNBC .... in terms of
time spent presenting news versus time spent delivering opinionated
political commentary.


You can't win, Scotty's insane!

True North[_2_] March 19th 13 05:44 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tuesday, 19 March 2013 11:51:44 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

...



On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:





"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message


...




On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:


A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media


coverage




The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .




-----------------------------------------------




No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is


about


as credible messenger as National Enquirer....




----------------------------------------------




Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....


there's


at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results


of


the same Pew Study.








Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported

"here"...



------------------------------------------



Good grief man! *Who* dismissed Fox? Fox?



If think for a moment, the Pew Study actually presents Fox News in a

favorable light .... at least as compared to MSNBC .... in terms of

time spent presenting news versus time spent delivering opinionated

political commentary.



Snerk..that Snottie is an amusing little man.

Urin Asshole March 19th 13 05:59 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:40:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


I guess the difference is that opinion on MSNBC is stated as such,
where on Fox it's unclear if it's opinion or facts. That's why
multiple studies have shown that people who watch Fox regularly are
much less well informed than any other viewing segment, including
comedy shows like Jon Stewart.

Urin Asshole March 19th 13 06:00 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:01:10 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...


They're mostly an aggregator of news and opinion. What a dip****. You
probably don't know what "aggregator" means. It doesn't have anything
to do with reptiles.

Urin Asshole March 19th 13 06:03 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:07:53 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


And the "news" FOX reports on is, of course, only the news that helps
their bias.


That's right. One of the problems is that "reporting" itself can be
skewed in favor of certain types of stories. I'm not claiming that
MSNBC doesn't do this, but again many studies have shown that fox
watchers are less well informed.

Urin Asshole March 19th 13 06:03 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:32:11 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:40:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media

coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and

15
percent on actual reporting of news events.



According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time

on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.



CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.



What a surprise.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29
00160.html

Are you trying to agitate Harry and like minded fools?


Fortunately, you don't have to be agitated to be a fool.

You were shaken not stirred.

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 06:03 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 2:03 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:07:53 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


And the "news" FOX reports on is, of course, only the news that helps
their bias.


That's right. One of the problems is that "reporting" itself can be
skewed in favor of certain types of stories. I'm not claiming that
MSNBC doesn't do this, but again many studies have shown that fox
watchers are less well informed.



PsychoScotty and "Mired" are big Fox fans.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 19th 13 06:53 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:28:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.


This is an unscientific study but my observations parallel what Pew
says. My TV is on the news all day and CNN seems to be the one that
does more reporting than commenting.


I agree...

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 07:31 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 2:22 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:28:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.


This is an unscientific study but my observations parallel what Pew
says. My TV is on the news all day and CNN seems to be the one that
does more reporting than commenting.


I agree...


Then why did you say that the findings were bull because they were
reported on Huff Post, along with about 200 other places?

Urin Asshole March 19th 13 09:38 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:31:05 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 2:22 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:28:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.


This is an unscientific study but my observations parallel what Pew
says. My TV is on the news all day and CNN seems to be the one that
does more reporting than commenting.


I agree...


Then why did you say that the findings were bull because they were
reported on Huff Post, along with about 200 other places?


cause he's stupid?

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 09:46 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On 3/19/13 5:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:31:05 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 3/19/2013 2:22 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:28:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer .....
there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the
results of the same Pew Study.


This is an unscientific study but my observations parallel what Pew
says. My TV is on the news all day and CNN seems to be the one that
does more reporting than commenting.


I agree...


Then why did you say that the findings were bull because they were
reported on Huff Post, along with about 200 other places?


cause he's stupid?


PsychoSnotty defines stupid.

BAR[_2_] March 19th 13 11:26 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote:


I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are
repeating
it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of
commentary
and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As
opinions
and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and
balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed
"lies,
lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong ....
of
what was going on in Bush's head at the time.




So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most
sinister
view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they
allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes
sense:)

-------------------------------------------

I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a
Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are
all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative
"guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are
usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I
like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds
his own against the liberal attacks.


Joe Scarborough is MSNBC's pet Republican just like David Brooks is the
NY Time's pet conservative. Neither Scarborough or Brooks are well
thought of on the right. The left keeps them around as props.

They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was
often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up
to him and he was canned.




BAR[_2_] March 19th 13 11:34 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .


So shooting the messenger is not appropriate? My response to you is why
do you watch and promote NBC over other networks that report more news?



Eisboch[_8_] March 20th 13 03:07 AM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"BAR" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest
overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air
time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the
source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .




So shooting the messenger is not appropriate? My response to you is
why
do you watch and promote NBC over other networks that report more
news?

---------------------------------------------

The post was simply a comment on what the Pew Study report found. It
was not a personal endorsement of MSNBC.

I watch MSNBC to get the liberal's slant on politics and current
events. I watch CNN when I've had enough of watching MSNBC which is
usually by the time Al Sharpton has finished his show's introduction.
I used to suffer through Rachel Maddow's show but she's gone too far
over the line with MSNBC's leftist slant and she has become grating
for me to listen to. I don't drink, so I don't need her mixology
lessons either.

I don't think I've ever "promoted" MSNBC. To the contrary, I think
I've complained more or commented negatively about their programming.
The only show that I think is really worth viewing is "Morning Joe"
because Scarborough at least attempts to keep the discussions
balanced and will challenge those who start getting too far left in
their opinions or comments. To his credit, he will also take some of
the ultra-right wing nuts to task as well.

Lastly, I get a kick out of watching Mika Brzezinski getting
exasperated with some of Scarborough's comments.







Wayne B March 20th 13 04:05 AM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:07:28 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't think I've ever "promoted" MSNBC. To the contrary, I think
I've complained more or commented negatively about their programming.
The only show that I think is really worth viewing is "Morning Joe"
because Scarborough at least attempts to keep the discussions
balanced and will challenge those who start getting too far left in
their opinions or comments. To his credit, he will also take some of
the ultra-right wing nuts to task as well.

Lastly, I get a kick out of watching Mika Brzezinski getting
exasperated with some of Scarborough's comments.


====

And therein lies the problem. In today's highly polarized political
climate, if you're not for them, then you must be against them. Anyone
standing in he middle of the road with a fair and balanced position
will be struck by oncoming traffic from one side or the other.
Mostly I blame the media for bringing us to this sorry state of
affairs, but as thinking adults we should all be trying to end the
nonsense.

Urin Asshole March 20th 13 05:54 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:05:07 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:07:28 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't think I've ever "promoted" MSNBC. To the contrary, I think
I've complained more or commented negatively about their programming.
The only show that I think is really worth viewing is "Morning Joe"
because Scarborough at least attempts to keep the discussions
balanced and will challenge those who start getting too far left in
their opinions or comments. To his credit, he will also take some of
the ultra-right wing nuts to task as well.

Lastly, I get a kick out of watching Mika Brzezinski getting
exasperated with some of Scarborough's comments.


====

And therein lies the problem. In today's highly polarized political
climate, if you're not for them, then you must be against them. Anyone
standing in he middle of the road with a fair and balanced position
will be struck by oncoming traffic from one side or the other.
Mostly I blame the media for bringing us to this sorry state of
affairs, but as thinking adults we should all be trying to end the
nonsense.


How? I mean that's right, but how? Not that it's particularly
balanced, but say it is for a minute. How do you not promote your TV
show or talk radio without being inflamitory? Wait, I know...
education! Then, when you spout off some ****, it's a deliberate lie
and nobody with a decent education, specifically one that teaches
critical thinking will be fooled.

Wayne B March 20th 13 08:06 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:54:24 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

====

And therein lies the problem. In today's highly polarized political
climate, if you're not for them, then you must be against them. Anyone
standing in he middle of the road with a fair and balanced position
will be struck by oncoming traffic from one side or the other.
Mostly I blame the media for bringing us to this sorry state of
affairs, but as thinking adults we should all be trying to end the
nonsense.


How? I mean that's right, but how?


====

It will have to come from good leadership and a groundswell of public
opnion. Help spread the word; support moderate candidates; write
letters to intemperate media outlets and their commercial sponsors -
in other words good old fashioned grass roots political activism.

BAR[_2_] March 20th 13 10:22 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 
In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:
A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media
coverage
over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest
overall
budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and
15
percent on actual reporting of news events.

According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air
time
on
commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news.

CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time
reporting the news than opinion commentary.

What a surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/msnbc-opinion-cable-news_n_2900160.html


Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the
source
I
would go to for objective views about news coverage...

-----------------------------------

The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .




So shooting the messenger is not appropriate? My response to you is
why
do you watch and promote NBC over other networks that report more
news?

---------------------------------------------

The post was simply a comment on what the Pew Study report found. It
was not a personal endorsement of MSNBC.

I watch MSNBC to get the liberal's slant on politics and current
events. I watch CNN when I've had enough of watching MSNBC which is
usually by the time Al Sharpton has finished his show's introduction.
I used to suffer through Rachel Maddow's show but she's gone too far
over the line with MSNBC's leftist slant and she has become grating
for me to listen to. I don't drink, so I don't need her mixology
lessons either.

I don't think I've ever "promoted" MSNBC. To the contrary, I think
I've complained more or commented negatively about their programming.
The only show that I think is really worth viewing is "Morning Joe"
because Scarborough at least attempts to keep the discussions
balanced and will challenge those who start getting too far left in
their opinions or comments. To his credit, he will also take some of
the ultra-right wing nuts to task as well.

Lastly, I get a kick out of watching Mika Brzezinski getting
exasperated with some of Scarborough's comments.


You just like to see her cheast heave!

Eisboch[_8_] March 20th 13 10:33 PM

Facts or Opinions?
 


"BAR" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


Lastly, I get a kick out of watching Mika Brzezinski getting
exasperated with some of Scarborough's comments.


You just like to see her cheast heave!

----------------------------------------

Well, that too!



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