wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


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We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


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we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some worthless,
but legal.

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

On 3/24/13 11:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?


That's the way it is in Herring's hate-filled world.

On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting
with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to
do this work and it is reflected in their productivity.
When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is
concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who
finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was
skim coated drywall.
After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the
"boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had
cut a door in it and made a window smaller.

All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint
scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco.


Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are
plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you
don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them
out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers
willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive
to the bottom.

The contractor who handles our heavy yard work and, when we have snow,
plowing, is Mexican. His crews are comprised of Mexicans and "Anglos."
They all work very hard. I'm sure most of them have girlfriends, too.

A few college-level stat courses taught by one of those ivory towered
professors might cure you of trying to draw universal truths from too
few data points.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:49:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting
with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to
do this work and it is reflected in their productivity.
When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is
concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who
finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was
skim coated drywall.
After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the
"boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had
cut a door in it and made a window smaller.

All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint
scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco.


Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are
plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you
don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them
out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers
willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive
to the bottom.

No ****. That's the whole point. Perhaps if there were fewer millions of 'undocumented foreign
workers' (sic), that is, illegal aliens, running around, there'd be more jobs available for those
forced out of the job market.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:49:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting
with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to
do this work and it is reflected in their productivity.
When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is
concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who
finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was
skim coated drywall.
After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the
"boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had
cut a door in it and made a window smaller.

All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint
scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco.


Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are
plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you
don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them
out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers
willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive
to the bottom.

No ****. That's the whole point. Perhaps if there were fewer millions of 'undocumented foreign
workers' (sic), that is, illegal aliens, running around, there'd be more jobs available for those
forced out of the job market.


Salmonbait

But, but, Greg just said that the "Anglos" don't want the jobs.....

In article ,
says...

On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting
with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to
do this work and it is reflected in their productivity.
When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is
concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who
finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was
skim coated drywall.
After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the
"boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had
cut a door in it and made a window smaller.

All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint
scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco.


Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are
plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you
don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them
out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers
willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive
to the bottom.

The contractor who handles our heavy yard work and, when we have snow,
plowing, is Mexican. His crews are comprised of Mexicans and "Anglos."
They all work very hard. I'm sure most of them have girlfriends, too.

A few college-level stat courses taught by one of those ivory towered
professors might cure you of trying to draw universal truths from too
few data points.

This anti-"Anglo youth" thing of Greg's is pretty crazy. Probably due
his wife's history of squeezing undocumented Latinos for cheap work.
Work hard for cheap with the implicit threat of ICE hanging over your
head. Money in Greg's pocket. Almost everything is economic unless you
rise above it. Most find that difficult, including me. But I don't let
it shade my sense of reality.
Kids of all ethnic backgrounds are a product of their parents and their
economic background.
Greg seems to think Mexicans have a special "work gene." Crazy stuff.
Then uses an example of an "Anglo boss" not doing as good a job as a guy
who is more practiced, and maybe just more skilled, to "prove" it.
He doesn't understand it's all about demographics and getting the
cheapest labor. Networking too, which is just as important in the
"unskilled" world as it is elsewhere.
Bossman needs 3 more workers. Does he put an ad in the paper? If he's
only half smart he goes to his good workers and has them recruit for
him. Win-win.
Of course Greg expects an Anglo citizen to work cheaply alongside the
undocumented Mexicans, learn Spanish, and keep his head down.
That would work if he could deport the Anglo citizen. He can't.
It's some crazy "racist' stuff, essentially saying that "Anglos" have no
work ethic. If it wasn't so incredibly stupid, I would resent it.
As an aside, where undocumented workers are absent, things aren't
falling apart. Citizens of all ethnic backgrounds do the jobs just
fine. But generally the cost of living is higher. There's nothing
conclusive that I've seen, but I suspect that an illegal work force will
increase crime of the area they exist within. Not because the
"illegals" themselves are committing crime, but because more citizens
fall into poverty due to jobs being taken, and turn to crime.
But that's just my speculation, and I might be wrong.

On 3/24/2013 10:38 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

They work for 1/4 union scale and output 3 times the work.