On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

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'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.


------------------------------
What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They
should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:07:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.


------------------------------
What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They
should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can.

Huh? They barely have enough food, and welfare doesn't guarantee
housing. Yeah, scratching around for baby formula and going from
shelter to shelter in the winter gives people lots of time on their
hands.

No doubt you've never received anything from the government. You built
your own roads, you police your neighborhood, you put out your own
fires, you check your food for toxins, you make sure the planes don't
fly into each other, you don't give a **** if a product is dangerous,
because you check that yourself, you certainly don't get anything for
your taxes (oh wait, you don't pay taxes, so never mind), you didn't
benefit enormously from public education, you don't get medicare or
social security. Basically, you're a fungus.

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:07:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to
the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others
in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.


------------------------------
What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing.
They
should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can.

Huh? They barely have enough food, and welfare doesn't guarantee
housing. Yeah, scratching around for baby formula and going from
shelter to shelter in the winter gives people lots of time on their
hands.

No doubt you've never received anything from the government. You built
your own roads, you police your neighborhood, you put out your own
fires, you check your food for toxins, you make sure the planes don't
fly into each other, you don't give a **** if a product is dangerous,
because you check that yourself, you certainly don't get anything for
your taxes (oh wait, you don't pay taxes, so never mind), you didn't
benefit enormously from public education, you don't get medicare or
social security. Basically, you're a fungus.


-----------------------

Sure I got public education and drive on the roads. Also pay a lot of
taxes. When working 60 hours a week etc. Both as an engineer in the
Silicon valley and running a construction equipment leasing company on the
side. You have never dealt with the welfare poor from what I see. They
knew all the angles. We would hire welfare people to clean up the storage
yard at times. Now these are 4 or 5th generation welfare recipients. Some
would state they would work for free for us for the day if we gave them a
check for say $350 and they would sign it back to us. Gave them enough
income to go back on unemployment for 6 months. We never did, as against my
principals. I know about government oversight. part of my career was
embedded software in biomedical devices, dealing with the FDA. And welfare
in California is pretty good. Equivalent to about $18k a year. And if it
is so bad, why do we have so many repeat families on welfare? I was a
working student! Paid my way through university while working full time.
No student loans. As to student loans, heard on the radio about a month
ago, that most people leave college owing less than $25,000. Very small
percentage with $100k+ loans. Maybe they should have work studied more.
And I get Social Security. Will be 70 is a couple weeks. But, I still do
not understand where SS became the national retirement system I and my
employers paid in about $400k to my account. Medicare a bunch also. There
is no upper limit on Medicare earnings.

wrote in message ...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:18:57 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You have never dealt with the welfare poor from what I see. They
knew all the angles. We would hire welfare people to clean up the storage
yard at times. Now these are 4 or 5th generation welfare recipients. Some
would state they would work for free for us for the day if we gave them a
check for say $350 and they would sign it back to us. Gave them enough
income to go back on unemployment for 6 months. We never did, as against
my
principals.

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


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We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.