On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:21:26 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:43:46 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:07:37 -0700, jps wrote:



A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has
been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his

Thank God Muslims, Jews, and Secular Progressive Liberals never engage in such behavior!


Salmonbait

Attending a religiious school, you'd expect that experience and the
religious following of his parents to impart some basic values.

This kid hadn't developed enough sense to understand that killing his
parents would not lead to more freedom and time on his xbox.

He'll have time alright, not so much freedom.

And WTF is up with being able to pry the gun storage open?

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

(Be careful now. You're about to step in it.)


Salmonbait

From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in
moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?

On 3/13/2013 2:14 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:21:26 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:43:46 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:07:37 -0700, jps wrote:



A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has
been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his

Thank God Muslims, Jews, and Secular Progressive Liberals never engage in such behavior!


Salmonbait

Attending a religiious school, you'd expect that experience and the
religious following of his parents to impart some basic values.

This kid hadn't developed enough sense to understand that killing his
parents would not lead to more freedom and time on his xbox.

He'll have time alright, not so much freedom.

And WTF is up with being able to pry the gun storage open?

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

(Be careful now. You're about to step in it.)


Salmonbait

From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in
moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?


God help the poor little buggers.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:14:37 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:21:26 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:43:46 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:07:37 -0700, jps wrote:



A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has
been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his

Thank God Muslims, Jews, and Secular Progressive Liberals never engage in such behavior!


Salmonbait

Attending a religiious school, you'd expect that experience and the
religious following of his parents to impart some basic values.

This kid hadn't developed enough sense to understand that killing his
parents would not lead to more freedom and time on his xbox.

He'll have time alright, not so much freedom.

And WTF is up with being able to pry the gun storage open?

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

(Be careful now. You're about to step in it.)


Salmonbait

From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in
moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?

Thank you. You made my point.


Salmonbait

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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:37 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:


From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in

moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?


So the why you got rid of your gun is that you don't trust your kids?


http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/con....asp?article=3

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:21:26 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:43:46 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:07:37 -0700, jps wrote:



A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has
been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his

Thank God Muslims, Jews, and Secular Progressive Liberals never engage in such behavior!


Salmonbait

Attending a religiious school, you'd expect that experience and the
religious following of his parents to impart some basic values.

This kid hadn't developed enough sense to understand that killing his
parents would not lead to more freedom and time on his xbox.

He'll have time alright, not so much freedom.

And WTF is up with being able to pry the gun storage open?

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

(Be careful now. You're about to step in it.)


Salmonbait

How about parents? How about laws? You need a mythical being to tell
you what's right and wrong?? You're claiming that you wouldn't have
any moral compass without a god to direct you??

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:24:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:21:26 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:43:46 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:07:37 -0700, jps wrote:



A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has
been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his

Thank God Muslims, Jews, and Secular Progressive Liberals never engage in such behavior!


Salmonbait

Attending a religiious school, you'd expect that experience and the
religious following of his parents to impart some basic values.

This kid hadn't developed enough sense to understand that killing his
parents would not lead to more freedom and time on his xbox.

He'll have time alright, not so much freedom.

And WTF is up with being able to pry the gun storage open?

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

(Be careful now. You're about to step in it.)


Salmonbait

How about parents? How about laws? You need a mythical being to tell
you what's right and wrong?? You're claiming that you wouldn't have
any moral compass without a god to direct you??

Parables and fantasies are much more effective at teaching kids how to
live an ethically centered life.

My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as
selfish as the wingers in rec.boats.

On 3/13/2013 10:26 AM, J Herring wrote:

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

You really don't know?

From empathy, compassion, logic, rational thought, real world
consequences, examples from family and community, etc.

How did you decide which religion was correct and what dogma to obey?

On 3/14/13 12:12 PM, thumper wrote:
On 3/13/2013 10:26 AM, J Herring wrote:

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing
acquire their basic values?

You really don't know?

From empathy, compassion, logic, rational thought, real world
consequences, examples from family and community, etc.

How did you decide which religion was correct and what dogma to obey?


Herring was raised Catholic but obviously is a Christian in Name Only, a
CINO. I doubt he learned his hatred for blacks, Latinos, gays, from his
church or scripture.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:12:13 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 3/13/2013 10:26 AM, J Herring wrote:

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

You really don't know?

From empathy, compassion, logic, rational thought, real world
consequences, examples from family and community, etc.

How did you decide which religion was correct and what dogma to obey?

Yes, I know, that's why I asked the question after jps had slammed religion.

Your question makes assumptions.


Salmonbait

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