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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:37 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh? So the why you got rid of your gun is that you don't trust your kids? http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/con....asp?article=3 My gun was gone long before I had a wife or kids. I didn't want the responsibility, nor want to invest in a gun safe. I was more practical-minded than the idiots who leave their guns unsecured. Not like a lot of wingers who think guns represent Merican freedom. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:17:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. ....and in a wheelchair and blind and unable to tell directions....you could go on and on with those extremely few exceptions. Do you honestly think those cases account for the majority of abortions in this country. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:34:53 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:37 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh? So the why you got rid of your gun is that you don't trust your kids? http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/con....asp?article=3 My gun was gone long before I had a wife or kids. I didn't want the responsibility, nor want to invest in a gun safe. I was more practical-minded than the idiots who leave their guns unsecured. Not like a lot of wingers who think guns represent Merican freedom. What did your gun represent? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On 3/14/2013 2:59 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:27:05 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:10:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Ridiculous... Maybe you can't go into the pulpit and get a birth control pill from the Pastor, but they are not keeping anybody from getting it a million other places. ==== You're entitled to your opinion even though its wrong. Where is he wrong? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! CDS or Christian Derangement Syndrome... |
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On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. And therein lies the strawman... I think John was addressing the same lame "church supression" jab you made making your point. It's bs unless you can tell us just exactly where in the US outside the walls of the churches, "Church Suppression" is keeping women from getting birth control pills or having an abortion? |
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On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. And they are available to everybody, period... |
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On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. Or should I say, the church isn't stopping anybody from getting them...The intolerant just want to force the church to offer it too, then they will be satisifed because of course, they personally hold no value in "our" free agency to worship as we see fit... |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:58:48 -0400, J Herring
wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:05:05 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Do you honestly believe that a great percent of the abortions in this country are due to 'lack of access' to birth control pills, other methods of birth control, or the morning-after pill? To me that's like saying voter ID shouldn't be required because it imposes such an imposition on those who have to have IDs anyway. The Catholics who practice birth control in accordance with the teachings of the Church most assuredly do not practice getting abortions. In my opinion, most Catholics, at least in this country, use birth control methods contrary to the teachings of the Church. I like ESAD's approach - if you don't want an abortion, don't get one. I'd say, if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait Well, you're a ****ing idiot, so we don't care what you believe in your tiny little head. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:36:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 3/14/2013 1:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. Thanks for sharing. It seems that you got an early start to your career on the wrong side of the tracks, and the wrong side of the law. I'm struggling, now, not to pity you. Seems to be you fell out of the crib. |
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On 3/14/2013 3:03 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:45:43 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. How you came to that conclusion, based on what was said, is totally beyond me. "Viewing pregnancy as punishment"?? Who said anything close to that but you. Exactly.. You tried to justify abortions based on limited access to birth control methods or the morning after pill. To me, that's nonsense, unless you're talking third world countries - where abortions wouldn't be readily available either. He tried to justify it by blaming pregnancy on the Church which is just... well... you know. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:45:52 -0400, J Herring
wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait No. I think that true conservatives (people unlike you) are equally charitable. |
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On 3/14/2013 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. And just how do you suggest those few folks are going to succeed in stopping even one American from access to Birth Control? It's Christian Derangement Syndrome again... |
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On 3/14/13 3:45 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I's sure conservative born-agains contribute mightily to their churches, but most of those bucks ain't going to the poor. |
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On 3/14/2013 3:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. It's a myth... doesn't happen. When I was a kid we had to drive or take the bus 15 miles to Hartford to do our shopping, it can be done. Now we have a thousand stores between here and there... I can get condoms anywhere. |
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On 3/14/13 4:08 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:36:25 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 1:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. Thanks for sharing. It seems that you got an early start to your career on the wrong side of the tracks, and the wrong side of the law. I'm struggling, now, not to pity you. Seems to be you fell out of the crib. At 16, "Meyer" was prepping for his academic career in the navy. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:13:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/14/13 3:45 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I's sure conservative born-agains contribute mightily to their churches, but most of those bucks ain't going to the poor. Have you reviewed the budgets of the churches to which you refer? What about conservatives who aren't 'born-agains' ? Most Christians I know are not 'born-agains'. In fact, I don't believe I know one in that category. But, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? The question was posed because of the apparent allegation made by jps. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On 3/14/13 4:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/14/2013 3:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. It's a myth... doesn't happen. When I was a kid we had to drive or take the bus 15 miles to Hartford to do our shopping, it can be done. Now we have a thousand stores between here and there... I can get condoms anywhere. Your life experience isn't relevant or even typical. There are plenty of places where there is no public transportation or a variety of retail stores. Why would you need condoms? |
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On 3/14/2013 4:09 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:45:52 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait No. I think that true conservatives (people unlike you) are equally charitable. Nobody asked you, we already know what you are going to say.... it's getting old. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/14/13 3:45 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I's sure conservative born-agains contribute mightily to their churches, but most of those bucks ain't going to the poor. Blah, blah, blah.. bull****... |
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On 3/14/2013 4:21 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:13:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 3:45 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I's sure conservative born-agains contribute mightily to their churches, but most of those bucks ain't going to the poor. Have you reviewed the budgets of the churches to which you refer? What about conservatives who aren't 'born-agains' ? Most Christians I know are not 'born-agains'. In fact, I don't believe I know one in that category. But, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? The question was posed because of the apparent allegation made by jps. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Urine/kevin, jps, and harry just say it.. I think they have a rolodex of lame party lines to throw out on a schedule... |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:04:06 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. And they are available to everybody, period... No they aren't ****forbrains. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:05:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. Or should I say, the church isn't stopping anybody from getting them...The intolerant just want to force the church to offer it too, then they will be satisifed because of course, they personally hold no value in "our" free agency to worship as we see fit... You're ****ing stupid. The church has nothing to do with it. It's a requirement built into the health insurance plan, including for non-Christians who work there. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/14/13 4:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 3:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. It's a myth... doesn't happen. When I was a kid we had to drive or take the bus 15 miles to Hartford to do our shopping, it can be done. Now we have a thousand stores between here and there... I can get condoms anywhere. Your life experience isn't relevant or even typical. There are plenty of places where there is no public transportation or a variety of retail stores. At least mine life experience isn't made up... Why would you need condoms? What the hell kind of question is that perv? |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:13:51 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/14/2013 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. And just how do you suggest those few folks are going to succeed in stopping even one American from access to Birth Control? It's Christian Derangement Syndrome again... You never heard of the fillibuster? Christian derangement is right. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:29:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/14/2013 4:09 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:45:52 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait No. I think that true conservatives (people unlike you) are equally charitable. Nobody asked you, we already know what you are going to say.... it's getting old. Too ****ing bad for you bittyballs. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:33 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:04:06 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. And they are available to everybody, period... No they aren't ****forbrains. Yeah they are sperm breath... |
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On 3/14/13 4:21 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:13:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 3:45 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I's sure conservative born-agains contribute mightily to their churches, but most of those bucks ain't going to the poor. Have you reviewed the budgets of the churches to which you refer? What about conservatives who aren't 'born-agains' ? Most Christians I know are not 'born-agains'. In fact, I don't believe I know one in that category. But, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? The question was posed because of the apparent allegation made by jps. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! I don't consider "charity" giving to a church that uses the funds for edifices or salaries of its clergy, or for proselytizing. Charity supposedly is to help the poor with food, shelter, medical care, clothing, et cetera. So, when you deduct conservative christian charitable giving that isn't used to provide direct assistance to the poor, the amount of giving goes way, way down. Giving money to one's church so it can send "missionaries" to Central and South America to convert Catholics into Protestants isn't charitable giving. Neither is giving money to convert "pagans" into Christians. It's proselytizing and, as such, money used for those purposes shouldn't be considered charity or eligible for charitable deduction. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:35 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:05:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. Or should I say, the church isn't stopping anybody from getting them...The intolerant just want to force the church to offer it too, then they will be satisifed because of course, they personally hold no value in "our" free agency to worship as we see fit... You're ****ing stupid. The church has nothing to do with it. It's a requirement built into the health insurance plan, including for non-Christians who work there. So go to the drug store and buy them for 9 dollars a month, or have them given to you by the clinic... nobody is being stopped from access to birth control. You just want the church to pay for it too, because you don't believe in their freedom to worship.. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:36 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:13:51 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. And just how do you suggest those few folks are going to succeed in stopping even one American from access to Birth Control? It's Christian Derangement Syndrome again... You never heard of the fillibuster? Christian derangement is right. Liar... filibuster (and that's how it's spelled) has to do with what. There is nothing to filibuster, women already have open and full access to birth control, period. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:36 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:29:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 4:09 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:45:52 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote: On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote: bull**** snipped My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as selfish as the wingers in rec.boats. Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between. Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate is fine. These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as lucky. The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you. Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives? Salmonbait No. I think that true conservatives (people unlike you) are equally charitable. Nobody asked you, we already know what you are going to say.... it's getting old. Too ****ing bad for you bittyballs. Do you giggle when you type that **** kevin? |
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On 3/14/13 4:35 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/14/2013 4:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 4:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 3:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. It's a myth... doesn't happen. When I was a kid we had to drive or take the bus 15 miles to Hartford to do our shopping, it can be done. Now we have a thousand stores between here and there... I can get condoms anywhere. Your life experience isn't relevant or even typical. There are plenty of places where there is no public transportation or a variety of retail stores. At least mine life experience isn't made up... Why would you need condoms? What the hell kind of question is that perv? Well, assumptive me thinks...you're in your 50's at least, your wife likely is about the same age and is no longer dropping eggs down the canal, and is unlikely to get pregnant. There's only one other reason for a married couple past childbearing years to be bothering with condoms...can you guess what it is? So, why would you need condoms? |
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On 3/14/13 4:37 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/14/2013 4:33 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:04:06 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. And they are available to everybody, period... No they aren't ****forbrains. Yeah they are sperm breath... Sperm breath...interesting choice of words. How familiar are you with that sort of thing? |
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On 3/14/13 4:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/14/2013 4:35 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:05:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. ==== Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress availability. Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access to remedies for their sins. ==== And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me why anyone would wish for more. You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion or childbirth unnecessary. Or should I say, the church isn't stopping anybody from getting them...The intolerant just want to force the church to offer it too, then they will be satisifed because of course, they personally hold no value in "our" free agency to worship as we see fit... You're ****ing stupid. The church has nothing to do with it. It's a requirement built into the health insurance plan, including for non-Christians who work there. So go to the drug store and buy them for 9 dollars a month, or have them given to you by the clinic... nobody is being stopped from access to birth control. You just want the church to pay for it too, because you don't believe in their freedom to worship.. Please point out how birth control interferes with freedom to worship. |
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On 3/14/2013 4:42 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/14/13 4:35 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 4:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 4:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/14/2013 3:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring wrote: I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard. You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it. === No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world. Think about that. There is always birth control and the morning after pill. Salmonbait There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the right that would ban those things also. There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors won't sell the morning after pill. When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small, family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk. Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too, mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at all. I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway, that's my memory. I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently had acquired a lady friend. We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood. Life was simpler back in the day. You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need, I go to another store. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L. It's a myth... doesn't happen. When I was a kid we had to drive or take the bus 15 miles to Hartford to do our shopping, it can be done. Now we have a thousand stores between here and there... I can get condoms anywhere. Your life experience isn't relevant or even typical. There are plenty of places where there is no public transportation or a variety of retail stores. At least mine life experience isn't made up... Why would you need condoms? What the hell kind of question is that perv? Well, assumptive me thinks...you're in your 50's at least, your wife likely is about the same age and is no longer dropping eggs down the canal, and is unlikely to get pregnant. There's only one other reason for a married couple past childbearing years to be bothering with condoms...can you guess what it is? So, why would you need condoms? Tell us why your wife is a fat pig and then I will answer your question... |
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