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Royal Caribbean Cruisers Ill With Apparent Norovirus By GENEVIEVE SHAW BROWN March 8, 2013— abcnews.go.com ABC News More Than 100 Ill With Norovirus on Royal Caribbean Vision of the Seas A Royal Caribbean cruise ship has returned to port with more than 100 passengers sickened by a stomach illness thought to be norovirus. Vision of the Seas returned to Port Everglades, Fla., after an 11-night Caribbean cruise. One hundred five passengers and three crew members fell ill, the cruise line said. There were 1,991 guests and 772 crew members on board. The ship returned as scheduled and ill passengers responded well to over-the-counter medication being administered on board the ship, Royal Caribbean International said. The Centers for Disease Control, which tracks norovirus outbreaks on its website, did not yet have a record of the incident. In a statement to ABC News, the cruise line said, "At Royal Caribbean International, we have high health standards for all our guests and crew. During the sailing, we conduct enhanced cleaning on board the ship to help prevent the spread of the illness. Additionally, when Vision of the Seas arrived to Port Everglades, Fla., today, we conducted an extensive and thorough sanitizing onboard the ship and within the cruise terminal to help prevent any illness from affecting the subsequent sailing." Vision of the Seas just concluded an 11-night Caribbean sailing that included port calls to Basseterre, St. Kitts; Roseau, Dominica; Bridgetown, Barbados; St. George's, Grenada; Kraledijk, Bonaire; and Oranjestad, Aruba. According to the CDC website , "Norovirus is a very contagious virus. You can get norovirus from an infected person, contaminated food or water, or by touching contaminated surfaces. The virus causes your stomach or intestines or both to get inflamed (acute gastroenteritis). This leads you to have stomach pain, nausea, and diarrhea and to throw up." Because of the close quarters on a cruise ship, norovirus tends to spread quickly. The ship was scheduled to depart on its next voyage late Friday afternoon. In an email to passengers scheduled to depart on today's Vision of the Seas cruise, the cruise line said, "We will conduct enhanced sanitizing onboard the ship and within the terminal to help prevent any illness from affecting your cruise." The last recorded outbreak on a cruise line was in December 2012 on Cunard's Queen Mary 2. The CDC reported 194 passengers and 11 crew reported fell ill during the voyage. The same month, there was a norovirus outbreak on another luxury cruise ship: The Emerald Princess. In that case, five percent of all passengers -- 166, plus 30 crew -- fell ill on the sailing. Copyright © 2013 ABC News Internet Ventures - - - |
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On 3/9/2013 5:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
If you can get on a ship that takes you somewhere difficult or impossible to get to any other way, it could be fun, but the way these ships do it, it just seems like a way to overstuff yourself with food while you make a mad dash to one island after another, all of which are easily reached by plane in package deals that give you time to enjoy your destination. Instead, you and your honey enjoy the privacy, intimacy and overindulgences of being aboard a floating hotel with 2000 people you'll probably hope you never see again. Blech. The ships remind of waterborne versions of the old Catskills resorts like the Concord, Grossingers, et cetera. Back in the 1970s, when I worked for the teachers union, the New York state outfits sometimes had their annual conventions at these hotels, *after* Labor Day, when the prices were slashed. Not a bad idea to bring 500 people to an all-inclusive hotel with lots of activities, off the beaten path, and a low day rate. There's your intolerance rearing it's ugly head again. |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote:
Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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says... On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Maybe it's because stupid fools like you always try to lump everyone into one of your narrow minded categorizes. Stop and think how you post about ALL liberals this, ALL liberals that. Are all conservatives just like Rush Limbaugh? I saw a conservative being interviewed on TV and after he spit a wad of chewing tobacco out, ranted about how we need to "clean the country" of immigrants, undesirables such as inner-city blacks, etc. Using your analogies, any and all conservatives think and act that very same way, correct? |
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Thanks, but we'll pass on that cruise...
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Where did the politics come from? ESAD and baybaot would just rather fly. No sweat, that's why God invented airplanes. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On 3/10/2013 11:02 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Where did the politics come from? ESAD and baybaot would just rather fly. No sweat, that's why God invented airplanes. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] I am watching them all tell you your opinion sucks... I see the same thing with their guns, "nobody needs it if I don't have it" attitude, vehicles "see above", soda in NYC.... My oldest can't figure out why anybody needs anything more than a prius, or why anybody would own a car in the first place:0 not literally... But is fine to rent whatever she needs on the weekend:) |
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In article ,
says... On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Where did the politics come from? ESAD and baybaot would just rather fly. No sweat, that's why God invented airplanes. Salmonbait Oh, you know, he's insane. |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:06:09 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/10/2013 11:02 AM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Where did the politics come from? ESAD and baybaot would just rather fly. No sweat, that's why God invented airplanes. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] I am watching them all tell you your opinion sucks... I see the same thing with their guns, "nobody needs it if I don't have it" attitude, vehicles "see above", soda in NYC.... My oldest can't figure out why anybody needs anything more than a prius, or why anybody would own a car in the first place:0 not literally... But is fine to rent whatever she needs on the weekend:) Here's the thing. I don't give a **** what they say. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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says... On 3/10/2013 11:02 AM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/10/2013 10:15 AM, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. I still would like to know what it is about liberals that make them hate anything they don't do personally. Is it jealousy? Are they anti-social, or maybe they really don't have a boat at all and this is their way of striking out??? Just don't get it. This is the kind of mindset that is leading to so many silly food laws in NYC... Where did the politics come from? ESAD and baybaot would just rather fly. No sweat, that's why God invented airplanes. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] I am watching them all tell you your opinion sucks... I see the same thing with their guns, "nobody needs it if I don't have it" attitude, vehicles "see above", soda in NYC.... My oldest can't figure out why anybody needs anything more than a prius, or why anybody would own a car in the first place:0 not literally... But is fine to rent whatever she needs on the weekend:) But conservative laws are, of course, just great, right? |
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On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'? Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant? Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:29:35 UTC-3, John H wrote:
snip... It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'? Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant? Salmonbait Uh huh! Tell that to all the sailors in the US Navy, landlubber. |
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On 3/10/2013 11:34 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:29:35 UTC-3, John H wrote: snip... It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'? Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant? Salmonbait Uh huh! Tell that to all the sailors in the US Navy, landlubber. Well, hopefully everybody who served in the Navy isn't as sensitive. My dad would have called them all "soldiers", wonder what they would have thought of that:) BTW, he called himself a "soldier", even though his work was in the Army Air Corps. |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:34:01 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:29:35 UTC-3, John H wrote: snip... It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'? Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant? Salmonbait Uh huh! Tell that to all the sailors in the US Navy, landlubber. You failed to answer the questions. Why would I ask those questions of the sailors in the Navy? I believe the word 'sailor' originated when boat rides were taken 'under sail'. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:37:42 -0400, Gogarty wrote:
We have three cruise ship ports here in New York. Many times a week several of these enormous vessles go out to sea for a few days or a week, turn around in eight hours and set out again. It is astonishing to see. This was going on all through the Recession, ships full of people. How will it be when the recovery is well under way? So we bought stock in Carnival Cruise Lines, which includes half a dozen different lines. The stock is doing nicely despite some mishaps like Costa Concordia and Carnival Triumph. One thing that struck me as truly weird was the fitness area == a whole gym with tread mills and all the rest. Those people bouncing up and down on those contraptions like a gym overlooking Lexingon Avenue paying no attention to the ship or the sea -- weird. But no skin off my nose. If you do take a cruise and you drink a bit budget $100/day/per couple for liwuid refreshment. That inlcudes water in the mini bar. About the only drink I buy is coffee from the coffee shop on the Disney ships. I can't say if they do or don't have an 'exercise' area. Their is a measured jogging route on Deck 4 of the ships I've been on. It's also a great place for walking, which is what most of my exercise on board consists of. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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"True North" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' -------------------------------------------------- We can cut him some slack. He was Army. |
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"J Herring" wrote in message ... Why would I ask those questions of the sailors in the Navy? I believe the word 'sailor' originated when boat rides were taken 'under sail'. -------------------------------------------- It did, but regular Navy personnel are still called "sailors" by tradition. When a ship leaves port it either "gets underway" or "sails", regardless of whether it is the USS Constitution or a nuke powered carrier. |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:07:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . Why would I ask those questions of the sailors in the Navy? I believe the word 'sailor' originated when boat rides were taken 'under sail'. -------------------------------------------- It did, but regular Navy personnel are still called "sailors" by tradition. When a ship leaves port it either "gets underway" or "sails", regardless of whether it is the USS Constitution or a nuke powered carrier. Give me a break. I'd always called them 'Mariners'. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:07:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . Why would I ask those questions of the sailors in the Navy? I believe the word 'sailor' originated when boat rides were taken 'under sail'. -------------------------------------------- It did, but regular Navy personnel are still called "sailors" by tradition. When a ship leaves port it either "gets underway" or "sails", regardless of whether it is the USS Constitution or a nuke powered carrier. And, did you figure out where the confusion with your slide was? Does that pistol need some work? Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sunday, 10 March 2013 13:03:13 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"True North" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' -------------------------------------------------- We can cut him some slack. He was Army. I guess, but growing up and living my whole life in a Navy town, we do like to see the traditions respected. |
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"J Herring" wrote in message ... And, did you figure out where the confusion with your slide was? Does that pistol need some work? ---------------------------------------- It works fine. The initial confusion was on my part because it's a little different than other pistols I've used. Once I understood the single blowback design of it, I haven't had any confusion or issues with it. In fact, my son and I went over to the range this morning and fired several magazine loads through it. The more I use it, the more I like it. I had forgotten that it has a built-in laser sight on it. Works pretty good. Stopped at my favorite gun shop on the way home hoping to find some more ammo for it. They were fairly well stocked with 380 ammo but had a limit of two boxes each, regardless of caliper, on all ammo. They had several subcompact pistols in the case. I asked to see the S&W Bodyguard 380 because I've heard they are a decent handgun, especially for carry. But it just felt too small and too light in my hand. With the magazine removed I could only get two fingers around the grip. With the magazine inserted, I could just barely get my pinky finger hooked on it's bottom edge. Probably a good gun, but I like the Walther better. It's still small enough to comfortably carry but has some weight to it and fits my hand. If I ever get another pistol type handgun, I might get a S&W 1911 "Elite" .45 cal. Don't know what the heck I'd use it for, but it's a absolutely gorgeous handgun. The gun shop had a regular S&W 1911 without the tactical accessory rail, but I am holding out for the Elite model. |
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On 3/10/2013 11:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'? Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant? Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] When he crewed on a sailboat he was a wincher, not a sailor. |
Thanks, but we'll pass on that cruise...
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:36:41 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 10 March 2013 13:03:13 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote: "True North" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' -------------------------------------------------- We can cut him some slack. He was Army. I guess, but growing up and living my whole life in a Navy town, we do like to see the traditions respected. So, do you invite friends to go sailing in your boat? Do you go sailing in your boat? Those are simple questions, but you seem fearful of answering them. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:52:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . And, did you figure out where the confusion with your slide was? Does that pistol need some work? ---------------------------------------- It works fine. The initial confusion was on my part because it's a little different than other pistols I've used. Once I understood the single blowback design of it, I haven't had any confusion or issues with it. In fact, my son and I went over to the range this morning and fired several magazine loads through it. The more I use it, the more I like it. I had forgotten that it has a built-in laser sight on it. Works pretty good. Stopped at my favorite gun shop on the way home hoping to find some more ammo for it. They were fairly well stocked with 380 ammo but had a limit of two boxes each, regardless of caliper, on all ammo. They had several subcompact pistols in the case. I asked to see the S&W Bodyguard 380 because I've heard they are a decent handgun, especially for carry. But it just felt too small and too light in my hand. With the magazine removed I could only get two fingers around the grip. With the magazine inserted, I could just barely get my pinky finger hooked on it's bottom edge. Probably a good gun, but I like the Walther better. It's still small enough to comfortably carry but has some weight to it and fits my hand. If I ever get another pistol type handgun, I might get a S&W 1911 "Elite" .45 cal. Don't know what the heck I'd use it for, but it's a absolutely gorgeous handgun. The gun shop had a regular S&W 1911 without the tactical accessory rail, but I am holding out for the Elite model. Today I looked at the Baretta Nano, the Ruger LC9, and the Kahr CW9. The Baretta was by far the heaviest. I didn't shoot any of them, but without knowing anything about any of them, I'd probably take the Kahr based on feel. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:52:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . And, did you figure out where the confusion with your slide was? Does that pistol need some work? ---------------------------------------- It works fine. The initial confusion was on my part because it's a little different than other pistols I've used. Once I understood the single blowback design of it, I haven't had any confusion or issues with it. In fact, my son and I went over to the range this morning and fired several magazine loads through it. The more I use it, the more I like it. I had forgotten that it has a built-in laser sight on it. Works pretty good. Stopped at my favorite gun shop on the way home hoping to find some more ammo for it. They were fairly well stocked with 380 ammo but had a limit of two boxes each, regardless of caliper, on all ammo. They had several subcompact pistols in the case. I asked to see the S&W Bodyguard 380 because I've heard they are a decent handgun, especially for carry. But it just felt too small and too light in my hand. With the magazine removed I could only get two fingers around the grip. With the magazine inserted, I could just barely get my pinky finger hooked on it's bottom edge. Probably a good gun, but I like the Walther better. It's still small enough to comfortably carry but has some weight to it and fits my hand. If I ever get another pistol type handgun, I might get a S&W 1911 "Elite" .45 cal. Don't know what the heck I'd use it for, but it's a absolutely gorgeous handgun. The gun shop had a regular S&W 1911 without the tactical accessory rail, but I am holding out for the Elite model. Oh...glad to hear the 'problem' wasn't. I still get mixed up. I am also in the market for a 1911, but I'd like a Colt...just for grandkids sake. (This is what grandpa carried in the war!) I think they'd get a kick out of firing one. Plus, they *do* have some stopping power if needed. I assume you mean one of these two: http://tinyurl.com/ax2ur3v They're beautiful weapons. Get one and let me know what you think. Personally, I think the rail detracts from the looks, so I wouldn't push for one. Also, a laser sight is cool, but when a friend was thinking of buying one at the last gun show, I asked him to hold it up and point at a spot on a wall about fifteen yards away. Then I mentioned that on a range, everyone else could see how much that laser spot was bouncing around! He changed his mind. Try it next time you're in the store. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:00:49 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 3/10/2013 11:29 AM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2013 12:00:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:03 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/10/2013 9:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:34:46 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:04:07 -0400, Gogarty wrote: Did our first big ship cruise over the Christmas holidays. We did absolutely nothing and had a blast. The thing is the sea not the ship. We did not get off the ship at all. Now we are looking for a Cruise to Nowhere. Agree. I can spend a lot of time just sitting in a deck chair, drinking a cup of coffee, reading and watching the waves go by. It's even better if the water's rough. Salmonbait And you have to PAY to sit in an enormous herd of people to do this? I have a boat. The govt. payed me to do just what John was talking about. The govt almost paid me to ride a ship to Vietnam from Boston harbor. But, I got a change to orders at the last minute and went somewhere else. Missed a nice (?) boat ride. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] "ride a ship"...?? What kind of seaman talk is that..especially in a boating newsgroup? Try SAIL on a ship' It would have been a boat ride, not a sailing adventure. This ship had no sails. ** I don't suppose you've ever gone 'boating'? When you take out your boat, do you tell all your friends you're going 'sailing'?** **Why not stop looking for ways to be unpleasant?** Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!" [Attributed to Harry Krause] When he crewed on a sailboat he was a wincher, not a sailor. I wish he'd answer the questions above. I'd like to learn something from one so knowledgeable. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument! You know you live in a Country run by idiots if... ....the death penalty is a 'no-no', but death by Hellfire *without* a trial is AOK! |
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"J Herring" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:52:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: If I ever get another pistol type handgun, I might get a S&W 1911 "Elite" .45 cal. Don't know what the heck I'd use it for, but it's a absolutely gorgeous handgun. The gun shop had a regular S&W 1911 without the tactical accessory rail, but I am holding out for the Elite model. Oh...glad to hear the 'problem' wasn't. I still get mixed up. I am also in the market for a 1911, but I'd like a Colt...just for grandkids sake. (This is what grandpa carried in the war!) I think they'd get a kick out of firing one. Plus, they *do* have some stopping power if needed. I assume you mean one of these two: http://tinyurl.com/ax2ur3v They're beautiful weapons. Get one and let me know what you think. Personally, I think the rail detracts from the looks, so I wouldn't push for one. Also, a laser sight is cool, but when a friend was thinking of buying one at the last gun show, I asked him to hold it up and point at a spot on a wall about fifteen yards away. Then I mentioned that on a range, everyone else could see how much that laser spot was bouncing around! He changed his mind. Try it next time you're in the store. -------------------------------------------------- I've looked for a Colt 1911 M1 but they are hard to find and those that are available command big bucks ... well over $2k used around here. The new ones are not MA compliant, so legally I can't buy one. If I can find a used one that is grandfathered, it has to have been always owned in MA, further limiting their availability. I almost bought the Ruger version that *is* MA compliant ... until my buddy bought a new S&W E-series. It's the closest to the authentic Colt 1911 that the Marine Corps is adopting as their primary sidearm. That's why it has the tactical accessory rail on it. The few times the Navy trusted me with a sidearm it was always an old Colt 1911 ... probably from WWl or WWll. Didn't happen often and we had to turn them back in to the Gunner's mate after we got off watch. |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:34:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:52:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: If I ever get another pistol type handgun, I might get a S&W 1911 "Elite" .45 cal. Don't know what the heck I'd use it for, but it's a absolutely gorgeous handgun. The gun shop had a regular S&W 1911 without the tactical accessory rail, but I am holding out for the Elite model. Oh...glad to hear the 'problem' wasn't. I still get mixed up. I am also in the market for a 1911, but I'd like a Colt...just for grandkids sake. (This is what grandpa carried in the war!) I think they'd get a kick out of firing one. Plus, they *do* have some stopping power if needed. I assume you mean one of these two: http://tinyurl.com/ax2ur3v They're beautiful weapons. Get one and let me know what you think. Personally, I think the rail detracts from the looks, so I wouldn't push for one. Also, a laser sight is cool, but when a friend was thinking of buying one at the last gun show, I asked him to hold it up and point at a spot on a wall about fifteen yards away. Then I mentioned that on a range, everyone else could see how much that laser spot was bouncing around! He changed his mind. Try it next time you're in the store. -------------------------------------------------- I've looked for a Colt 1911 M1 but they are hard to find and those that are available command big bucks ... well over $2k used around here. The new ones are not MA compliant, so legally I can't buy one. If I can find a used one that is grandfathered, it has to have been always owned in MA, further limiting their availability. I almost bought the Ruger version that *is* MA compliant ... until my buddy bought a new S&W E-series. It's the closest to the authentic Colt 1911 that the Marine Corps is adopting as their primary sidearm. That's why it has the tactical accessory rail on it. The few times the Navy trusted me with a sidearm it was always an old Colt 1911 ... probably from WWl or WWll. Didn't happen often and we had to turn them back in to the Gunner's mate after we got off watch. Ditto. There are serial number listings on the web by which one can determine the year the Colt 1911 was made. They go back a long way. And, they're not near as beauteous as that S&W! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument! |
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:18:43 -0400, J Herring
wrote: Ditto. There are serial number listings on the web by which one can determine the year the Colt 1911 was made. They go back a long way. And, they're not near as beauteous as that S&W! === Have you ever seen a Kimber? I had a chance to shoot one last year and have been lusting after it ever since. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:18:43 -0400, J Herring wrote: Ditto. There are serial number listings on the web by which one can determine the year the Colt 1911 was made. They go back a long way. And, they're not near as beauteous as that S&W! === Have you ever seen a Kimber? I had a chance to shoot one last year and have been lusting after it ever since. ------------------------------------------------ The Kimber 1911 is what led my buddy into buying the S&W 1911 Elite. He has a son currently serving in the Marine Corps in Afghanistan. When the Marines announced they were going to switch from Berettas to the new Colt 1911 as the standard issue sidearm for some of the special recon forces, Kimber made a bunch of custom engraved versions of their 1911 and made them available for private purchase to active duty Marines in those units. Ironically, my friend's son, although in a recon unit, was not eligible to purchase one however because he has not yet turned 21 years of age. So, my friend decided to try to get one and save it for him until he is discharged, turns 21 and gets a handgun permit. That didn't work. The Kimber is not on the MA Compliant list. But then we were at a gun shop and saw the new S&W 1911 E-series. It has a stainless body ideal for engraving (engraving chrome isn't a good idea) so he got it and is having it engraved. The new Marine Corp issue Colt 1911 is done in a non-glare Cercoat finish, has some safety improvements and has the rail for tactical accessories. The civilian versions are either black or stainless. Here's a picture of the Marine version: http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2012/07/railgun.jpg |
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:57:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
The new Marine Corp issue Colt 1911 is done in a non-glare Cercoat finish, has some safety improvements and has the rail for tactical accessories. The civilian versions are either black or stainless. Here's a picture of the Marine version: http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2012/07/railgun.jpg === Nice. |
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On Monday, 11 March 2013 12:37:23 UTC-3, Gogarty wrote:
In article om, says... (Snip) When he crewed on a sailboat he was a wincher, not a sailor. No, no. Deck ape. Actually, I filled all positions including helmsman, navigator etc. The boat owner was great for letting us all have a turn at everything. |
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:48:37 -0300, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:18:43 -0400, J Herring wrote: Ditto. There are serial number listings on the web by which one can determine the year the Colt 1911 was made. They go back a long way. And, they're not near as beauteous as that S&W! === Have you ever seen a Kimber? I had a chance to shoot one last year and have been lusting after it ever since. Only in pictures. But even then they're a beautiful gun. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument! |
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