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bob March 5th 13 10:27 PM

painting gelcoat
 
I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?

Eisboch[_8_] March 5th 13 11:36 PM

painting gelcoat
 


"bob" wrote in message
...

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?

------------------------------------------------------------

There are several high quality topside paints for marine use, such as
AwlGrip and Interlux among others. They are basically a high gloss,
one-part polyurethane that may be sprayed, brushed or applied with a
roller. ( read about "Roll and Tip" at the attached link.)

As in any painting project, the secret is in the preparation. The
following link explains the process pretty well:

http://www.acbsphl.org/Tips_and_hint...nd_Tipping.htm



Wayne B March 6th 13 12:30 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:36:18 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?


=======

It is possible to paint your own boat with high gloss paint (there are
various kinds) but it is a *lot* of work and some of the paints are
very hazardous (virtually all of the 2 part polyurethanes like
Awlgrip).

There is a paint called Interlux Brightside which is not hazardous but
requires good prep, technique and thinning for best results. All of
the high gloss paints require good prep however because they will
highlight every little blemish.

Before you expend a lot of time and effort on painting I'd recommend
some agressive buffing with a good rubbing compound. Try it in a
small area with a good orbital buffer. You have nothing to lose but a
little work and if the original gel coat was good quality you may be
very pleased with the results.


Earl[_77_] March 6th 13 01:35 AM

painting gelcoat
 
bob wrote:
I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?

Behr's Premium from Home Depot and a 9" roller.

Seriously - it's not a DIY project unless you can prep it properly and
use a sprayer well.

Eisboch[_8_] March 6th 13 10:53 AM

painting gelcoat
 


wrote in message ...

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:27:16 -0500, bob wrote:

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the
gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and
would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?


Unfortunately the best paint is very hazardous (Poly urethane) but if
you buy a real respirator (the filter can kind, not the paper mask)
you can shoot it.

It is not as bad if you are brushing or rolling it but the result is
not as good. I would still use some kind of respirator.

As everyone has said, prep is more important than the paint.
Do you have a double action sander? That is the best tool to open up
the surface, then wipe it down with acetone and paint it.
Again, use the right PPE during that process..

-------------------------------------------------------------------

I believe the two-part polyurethane paints are the particularly
hazardous types and their use is recommended only by pros with the
proper equipment and gear.

The one-part polyurethane paints are designed for do-it-yourselfers
and although precautions need to be observed, they are not anywhere
near as dangerous.

II helped paint a friend's old 38's Hatteras with single part Poly
using the "Tip and Roll" method. It came out great.



bob March 7th 13 02:34 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:36:18 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"bob" wrote in message
.. .

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?

------------------------------------------------------------

There are several high quality topside paints for marine use, such as
AwlGrip and Interlux among others. They are basically a high gloss,
one-part polyurethane that may be sprayed, brushed or applied with a
roller. ( read about "Roll and Tip" at the attached link.)

As in any painting project, the secret is in the preparation. The
following link explains the process pretty well:

http://www.acbsphl.org/Tips_and_hint...nd_Tipping.htm


Thanks for the help. Never painted a boat before...anything like
housepainting?

bob March 7th 13 02:35 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:30:17 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:36:18 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?


=======

It is possible to paint your own boat with high gloss paint (there are
various kinds) but it is a *lot* of work and some of the paints are
very hazardous (virtually all of the 2 part polyurethanes like
Awlgrip).

There is a paint called Interlux Brightside which is not hazardous but
requires good prep, technique and thinning for best results. All of
the high gloss paints require good prep however because they will
highlight every little blemish.

Before you expend a lot of time and effort on painting I'd recommend
some agressive buffing with a good rubbing compound. Try it in a
small area with a good orbital buffer. You have nothing to lose but a
little work and if the original gel coat was good quality you may be
very pleased with the results.


thanks much...yeah I think some of the paints are deadly. I don't have
a paint booth or SCBA so am stuck with the safe stuff

bob March 7th 13 02:36 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:35:08 -0500, Earl wrote:

bob wrote:
I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?

Behr's Premium from Home Depot and a 9" roller.

Seriously - it's not a DIY project unless you can prep it properly and
use a sprayer well.


Thought that might be the case but the boat is so old it's hard to
screw it up

bob March 7th 13 02:37 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:11:18 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:27:16 -0500, bob wrote:

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?


Unfortunately the best paint is very hazardous (Poly urethane) but if
you buy a real respirator (the filter can kind, not the paper mask)
you can shoot it.

It is not as bad if you are brushing or rolling it but the result is
not as good. I would still use some kind of respirator.

As everyone has said, prep is more important than the paint.
Do you have a double action sander? That is the best tool to open up
the surface, then wipe it down with acetone and paint it.
Again, use the right PPE during that process..


looks like more work than I may want to do! Might just wax it and say
the hell with it

bob March 7th 13 02:37 AM

painting gelcoat
 
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:53:14 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



wrote in message ...

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:27:16 -0500, bob wrote:

I have an old boat that was neglected before I got it. Had the
gelcoat
checked by a professional who said it was too badly oxidized and
would
probably benefit from painting rather than polishing and waxing

Any opinons? What about doing this myself? Probably wouldn't use a
sprayer...

Best paint with minimal hazard?


Unfortunately the best paint is very hazardous (Poly urethane) but if
you buy a real respirator (the filter can kind, not the paper mask)
you can shoot it.

It is not as bad if you are brushing or rolling it but the result is
not as good. I would still use some kind of respirator.

As everyone has said, prep is more important than the paint.
Do you have a double action sander? That is the best tool to open up
the surface, then wipe it down with acetone and paint it.
Again, use the right PPE during that process..

-------------------------------------------------------------------

I believe the two-part polyurethane paints are the particularly
hazardous types and their use is recommended only by pros with the
proper equipment and gear.

The one-part polyurethane paints are designed for do-it-yourselfers
and although precautions need to be observed, they are not anywhere
near as dangerous.

II helped paint a friend's old 38's Hatteras with single part Poly
using the "Tip and Roll" method. It came out great.


sounds good...what's tip and roll?


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