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F.O.A.D. February 28th 13 10:49 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S. Sales
Slump


“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.

Eisboch[_8_] February 28th 13 10:58 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to
minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S.
Sales
Slump


“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a
Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its
shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the
Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix
the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its
stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.

----------------------------------------------------

Didn't Wal-Mart recently announce that they would begin stocking more
US made inventory rather than imported junk from China?


Meyer[_2_] February 28th 13 11:02 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 2/28/2013 5:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S. Sales
Slump


“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.


I have some WM stock and I'm not selling.

*e#c February 28th 13 11:30 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Feb 28, 5:49*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
*From Bloomberg

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S. Sales
Slump

“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.


Who gives a ****, " Mr Clip And Paste" ???

J Herring March 1st 13 01:58 AM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:58:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
om...

From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to
minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S.
Sales
Slump


“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a
Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its
shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the
Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix
the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its
stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.

----------------------------------------------------

Didn't Wal-Mart recently announce that they would begin stocking more
US made inventory rather than imported junk from China?


They're sure as hell not doing well in keeping the ammunition shelves stocked!
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 02:19 AM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 2/28/13 8:58 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:58:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to
minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.
Enlarge image Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S.
Sales
Slump


“We have to get better and remain laser-focused every day because
momentum can turn against you in a second,” Bill Simon, executive vice
president and chief executive officer for the U.S. for Wal-Mart Stores
Inc., said according to the Feb. 1 meeting minutes.

A customer pushes a shopping cart toward his vehicle outside a
Wal-Mart
store in East Peoria, Illinois. Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its
shelves
stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Photographer: Daniel
Acker/Bloomberg

“We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief
Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the
Feb.
1 meeting. Simon said “self-inflicted wounds” were Wal-Mart’s “biggest
risk” and that an executive vice president had been appointed to fix
the
restocking problem, according to the minutes.

Once a paragon of logistics, the world’s largest retailer has been
trying to improve its restocking efforts since at least 2011, hiring
consultants to walk the aisles and track whether hundreds of items are
available. It even reassigned store greeters to replenish merchandise.
The restocking challenge emerged as Wal-Mart was returning more
merchandise to shelves after a previous effort to de-clutter its
stores.

- - -

Awwwwwww.

----------------------------------------------------

Didn't Wal-Mart recently announce that they would begin stocking more
US made inventory rather than imported junk from China?


They're sure as hell not doing well in keeping the ammunition shelves stocked!

How many people are you planning on shooting?

J Herring March 1st 13 12:32 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.

In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 12:42 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 7:32 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.

In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.


At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.

Tim March 1st 13 01:07 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Mar 1, 6:32*am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.

Tim March 1st 13 01:09 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Mar 1, 6:42*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 7:32 AM, J Herring wrote:









On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:


On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


*From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.


At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.


How else you gonna get it? There won't be any available by 9, if not
before

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 01:17 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.



Fools and their money...

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 01:21 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 8:09 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 6:42 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 7:32 AM, J Herring wrote:









On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:


On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.


At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.


How else you gonna get it? There won't be any available by 9, if not
before



Oooh Nooo....the zombies are sure to get John... They're probably
waiting in the Wal-Mart parking lot for him right now.

I'll be glad to sell John some quality 9mm ammo...only $75 for the first
box of 50 rounds, and $100 for additional boxes. I do have to limit
quantities to five boxes per customer, though.

Tim March 1st 13 01:32 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Mar 1, 7:17*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


*From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out *of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received *the afternoon before. And that is at *double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?

J Herring March 1st 13 01:36 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 05:09:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Mar 1, 6:42*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 7:32 AM, J Herring wrote:









On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:


On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


*From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.


At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.


How else you gonna get it? There won't be any available by 9, if not
before


The poor boy is dying for attention. He accuses me of racism for posting the latest Chicago
homicides. What a laugh. I suppose the Chicago newspapers is racist.

Good morning to you! Here's hoping you make lots of money today!
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 01:42 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?



Easy enough to find out at the *CZCustom Shoppe*, aka http://czcustom.com/

The difference is, my CZ is a custom job, not a box of commodity ammo
that should sell for about $8 for 50 rounds.

We have a few decent gun shops around here. If I happen to drive by one,
I'll stop in and see what 9 mm ammo is going for, if there is any to be
had. Wal-Marts tend to sell "white box" ammo, which is pretty crappy,
dirty stuff. How do I know that? One of my friends buys his pistol ammo
at Wal-Mart... .40 S&W.

Tim March 1st 13 01:53 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Mar 1, 7:42*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:


On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


* From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is getting worse at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem.. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out *of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received *the afternoon before. And that is at *double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that *'custom shop' CZ?


Easy enough to find out at the *CZCustom Shoppe*, akahttp://czcustom.com/

The difference is, my CZ is a custom job, not a box of commodity ammo
that should sell for about $8 for 50 rounds.

We have a few decent gun shops around here. If I happen to drive by one,
I'll stop in and see what 9 mm ammo is going for, if there is any to be
had. Wal-Marts tend to sell "white box" ammo, which is pretty crappy,
dirty stuff. How do I know that? One of my friends buys his pistol ammo
at Wal-Mart... .40 S&W.


so... paying double what a gun's worth is good, but paying double for
ammo is bad?

Speaking of 'dirty' ammo, most of the stuff I have is military
surplus. old .303 British shells with "cordite" But they work....AND,
that's what cleaning kits are for...

?;^ )

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 02:04 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 8:53 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:42 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:


On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is getting worse at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


Easy enough to find out at the *CZCustom Shoppe*, akahttp://czcustom.com/

The difference is, my CZ is a custom job, not a box of commodity ammo
that should sell for about $8 for 50 rounds.

We have a few decent gun shops around here. If I happen to drive by one,
I'll stop in and see what 9 mm ammo is going for, if there is any to be
had. Wal-Marts tend to sell "white box" ammo, which is pretty crappy,
dirty stuff. How do I know that? One of my friends buys his pistol ammo
at Wal-Mart... .40 S&W.


so... paying double what a gun's worth is good, but paying double for
ammo is bad?

Speaking of 'dirty' ammo, most of the stuff I have is military
surplus. old .303 British shells with "cordite" But they work....AND,
that's what cleaning kits are for...

?;^ )


Let's just say that the "custom" CZ target pistols have a lot of "extra
value" in terms of finishing, adjusting, parts, and so forth, that the
work is done by very skilled competitive shooters, and the test results
are...impressive. And the price wasn't "double."

Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 1st 13 02:36 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/2013 7:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.


At 7:32 friday, harry and loogie have already made nearly 30 troll
posts, talk about obsessed..

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 1st 13 02:38 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/2013 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


These guys are such tools... 40 posts trolling already this morning
from just kevin and harry:)

iBoaterer[_2_] March 1st 13 03:03 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/1/2013 7:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the
clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.

Talk about obsessed.


At 7:32 friday, harry and loogie have already made nearly 30 troll
posts, talk about obsessed..


How's that blackmail thing going?

iBoaterer[_2_] March 1st 13 03:03 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/1/2013 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

From Bloomberg

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is ?getting worse? at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer?s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers? meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.

I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.

In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).

Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.

Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


These guys are such tools... 40 posts trolling already this morning
from just kevin and harry:)


How's that blackmail thing going? Remember now, you said that you had
contacted the authorities about it..... What ever happened?

True North[_2_] March 1st 13 03:26 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Friday, 1 March 2013 08:42:16 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/1/13 7:32 AM, J Herring wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:




On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




From Bloomberg






Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers


constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves


stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes


of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.




I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves


in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at


each store right down to the department and item, in real time.


They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill


those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"


since the inventory system is based on what goes through the


registers.




In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I


doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is


likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need


supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure


the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.


Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you


may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too


many people).






Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in


a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a


week now.




You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big


ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.




Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box


of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is


charging.






At 7:32 am on a Friday, Herring's already been to Wal-Mart to see the

clerks there unpack the day's supply of ammo.



Talk about obsessed.


Oh yeah! He's got the fever...gun fever.
I'm concerned for Mrs Herring..she has no idea what danger she's in now.

Eisboch[_8_] March 1st 13 03:30 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

------------------------------------------

The NRA induced an ammo buying panic?


Wayne B March 1st 13 03:31 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:03:55 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

How's that blackmail thing going? Remember now, you said that you had
contacted the authorities about it..... What ever happened?


======

I for one would appreciate it if you'd knock it off with that constant
jibing and sparring thing of yours.

Let it go !


iBoaterer[_2_] March 1st 13 03:53 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:03:55 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

How's that blackmail thing going? Remember now, you said that you had
contacted the authorities about it..... What ever happened?


======

I for one would appreciate it if you'd knock it off with that constant
jibing and sparring thing of yours.

Let it go !


Well, maybe Scotty shouldn't post such lies then!

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 04:15 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 9:38 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/1/2013 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:17 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

From Bloomberg

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to
minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.

I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to
fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.

In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain
problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).

Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed
with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've
not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.

You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart
mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He
checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost
double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

And by noon they had sold out of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received the afternoon before. And that is at double the going
rate price.

Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


These guys are such tools... 40 posts trolling already this morning
from just kevin and harry:)



Got blackmail?

J Herring March 1st 13 04:19 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:30:31 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
om...


Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

------------------------------------------

The NRA induced an ammo buying panic?


Actually it was stupid, knee-jerk reactions like this, I think:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-glance-at-marylands-gun-control-measure-approved-by-the-senate/2013/02/28/b1ede1a2-81f3-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html

or: http://tinyurl.com/d8ju498
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 1st 13 04:20 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:30:31 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
om...


Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

------------------------------------------

The NRA induced an ammo buying panic?


Actually it was stupid, knee-jerk reactions like this, I think:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-glance-at-marylands-gun-control-measure-approved-by-the-senate/2013/02/28/b1ede1a2-81f3-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html

or:
http://tinyurl.com/d8ju498

I'm glad you agree that it was and is a stupid knee-jerk reaction.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 04:21 PM

Wal-Mart's continuing problems
 
On 3/1/13 11:19 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:30:31 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

------------------------------------------

The NRA induced an ammo buying panic?


Actually it was stupid, knee-jerk reactions like this, I think:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-glance-at-marylands-gun-control-measure-approved-by-the-senate/2013/02/28/b1ede1a2-81f3-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html

or: http://tinyurl.com/d8ju498


It's pretty decent legislation, but we'll have to see if it clears the
Maryland house. I don't see anything in it that would cause "panic
buying" of ammunition in this report from yesterday's WashPost. A
significant majority of Marylanders support the legislation.


Ambitious bill on gun control in Md. advances
By Aaron C. Davis, Published: February 28

Maryland Senate Democrats passed sweeping gun-control legislation
Thursday that would make the Free State the first in nearly 20 years to
require residents to submit to fingerprinting, training and background
checks to obtain a license to buy a firearm.

The licensing provision is the centerpiece of Gov. Martin O’Malley’s
response to the December school shooting in Newtown, Conn. — and one of
the most ambitious legislative attempts nationwide this year on gun control.

Over objections from Republicans and some conservative Democrats who
warned that fingerprinting would trample on Second Amendment rights, the
bill passed the Senate 28 to 19 after 17 hours of sometimes-boisterous
debate this week.

It now heads to the House of Delegates, where it could again face a
blizzard of amendments and more heated debate. A “rally to prevent gun
violence” is scheduled at the State House in Annapolis on Friday, and
gun-rights activists are expected to descend on the capital as well.

In addition to licensing and fingerprinting measures, the Senate bill
includes provisions that would ban assault weapons and ammunition
magazines that hold more than 10 bullets in Maryland. Similar efforts by
Democrats to reinstate a federal assault-weapons ban have been stymied
in Congress so far.

On mental-health issues, the original bill by O’Malley (D) would have
increased the likelihood that someone committed involuntarily would be
banned from making subsequent firearm purchases. But the Senate took it
a step further, banning guns for anyone admitted against his will for
any length of time. In addition, Marylanders who voluntarily admit
themselves for mental-health treatment after visiting an emergency room
for such issues could be banned if doctors determine that they pose a risk.

Mental-health professionals have vigorously opposed any firearm
restrictions on those who voluntarily seek treatment, saying that doing
so could deter people from getting the help they need.

O’Malley, however, on Thursday said he thought that the Senate’s changes
regarding mental health made the bill “stronger and better” than when he
introduced it, and he said he would support the changes.

In a full day of debate Wednesday, Democrats fought through more than 75
amendments and votes seeking to weaken the bill, but they held firm in
requiring gun buyers to submit fingerprints, complete four hours of
safety training and undergo stronger background checks to obtain a
license to purchase firearms.

Proponents of the licensing provision say requiring purchasers to submit
fingerprints to police would reduce “straw” purchases, in which a family
member, friend or acquaintance buys a gun on behalf of another person
who might not qualify.

A Washington Post poll released this week found that 85 percent of
Marylanders back the governor’s licensing plan, and 73 percent do so
“strongly.”

Senate Republicans, however, successfully tacked on several measures
giving more leeway in registering assault weapons. One would give those
who currently own, but haven’t registered, assault weapons a grace
period of the remainder of the year to do so. They also reduced
financial and criminal penalties for failing to register firearms and
slightly narrowed the definition of the assault weapons that would be
banned.

Before the final vote Thursday, Republicans said that Democrats were
building false hope that the licensing provision could stop another
Newtown or Columbine and said Democrats’ fingerprinting plan would only
erode the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

Senate Minority Leader E.J. Pipkin (R-Cecil) argued that Democrats’
efforts were misplaced and should be focused on better enforcement of
current gun laws and the jail sentences of those convicted of gun crimes.

Sen. Christopher B. Shank (R-Washington) accused the Senate’s Democratic
majority of seeking to gut a constitutional right on guns because they
simply didn’t like it or didn’t understand the rural lifestyle and gun
use that often comes with it.

Seven conservative Democrats joined Republicans in supporting a
filibuster, but the effort fell one vote short.

Sen. Thomas M. Middleton (D-Charles) voted to end the debate, but then
voted against the bill.

“We’re chipping away at people’s rights. It’s a constitutional right
that we are chipping away, and it’s a hard pill for me to swallow,”
Middleton said.

By contrast, Sen. President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (D-Calvert), who
had said he opposed the fingerprinting requirement, voted for the bill.

Sen. Nathaniel J. McFadden (D-Baltimore) said the Senate was rightly
focused on gun-control measures that would help prevent not just
massacres, but also the daily gun violence that kills too many youths in
Baltimore and Prince George’s County.

“Residents are sick and tired of this gun violence,” McFadden said. “No,
this is not a perfect bill. Because you’re right — those criminals are
not going to go and be fingerprinted,” he said. “But somehow these guns
find their way into our communities . . . They come from somewhere, and
you can get a gun quicker than you get an apple or an orange in my
community. It’s outrageous, and we have to start somewhere.”

Meyer[_2_] March 1st 13 04:29 PM

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On 3/1/2013 10:30 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


Ammo is a mass produced commodity product...paying $30 instead of $8
because of an NRA-induced panic is...stupid.

------------------------------------------

The NRA induced an ammo buying panic?


I know. Really dumb Foad statement, eh?

J Herring March 1st 13 04:30 PM

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On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 05:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Mar 1, 7:17*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/1/13 8:07 AM, Tim wrote:









On Mar 1, 6:32 am, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:49:32 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


*From Bloomberg


Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers
constrained by higher taxes, is “getting worse” at keeping shelves
stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes
of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News.


I suspect Walmart underestimated the recovery. They pride themselves
in having "just in time" delivery of product by analysing sales at
each store right down to the department and item, in real time.
They probably did not stage enough at the distribution centers to fill
those orders. Of course they may have just underestimated "shrinkage"
since the inventory system is based on what goes through the
registers.


In the case of John's ammo, that is a national supply chain problem. I
doubt anyone anticipated the demand but I agree with Harry. It is
likely that as soon as the hoarders have all they think they need
supplies will go to glut and bulk ammo will be cheap again. A am sure
the ammo manufacturers are trying to hit that goldilocks spot too.
Don't make enough and you lose sales. Tool up, make too much and you
may be stuck with that decision for a while (too much product and too
many people).


Our local WalMart got some .45 in today, about 8 boxes - packed with two or three other calibers in
a box. Not even a case of the stuff. But, other than that, they've not had *any* ammo come in for a
week now.


You're right, it's across the board, not just 'WalMart mismanagement' as some would hope. The big
ammo houses on the net all say the same thing, 'out of stock'.


Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50 - more than double what WalMart is charging, and almost double what the local firing range is
charging.
--
Salmonbait


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


And by noon they had sold out *of the 3000 rounds of 9mm, they had
just received *the afternoon before. And that is at *double the going
rate price.


Fools and their money...


LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


I wonder if the holes in ESAD's famous target sheet were from the CZ or a #2 Pencil?
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Wayne B March 1st 13 04:31 PM

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On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:53:00 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I for one would appreciate it if you'd knock it off with that constant
jibing and sparring thing of yours.

Let it go !


Well, maybe Scotty shouldn't post such lies then!


=====

If you don't agree with something, just ignore it or post some well
thought out rebuttal, and then let it go.


iBoaterer[_2_] March 1st 13 05:39 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:53:00 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I for one would appreciate it if you'd knock it off with that constant
jibing and sparring thing of yours.

Let it go !


Well, maybe Scotty shouldn't post such lies then!


=====

If you don't agree with something, just ignore it or post some well
thought out rebuttal, and then let it go.


That's what I'm trying to do, find the source of those things he's
presented here as truth that are..... not.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 07:08 PM

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On 3/1/13 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:32:18 -0500, J Herring
wrote:

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50


I am not biting at that price. 9mm should be 15 cents a shot.

Seems fair enough for 115 ball ammo in aluminum cases...

J Herring March 1st 13 07:18 PM

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:01:18 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:32:18 -0500, J Herring
wrote:

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50


I am not biting at that price. 9mm should be 15 cents a shot.


Me neither. But even WalMart is getting around $.28/round for Federal FMJ 9mm, in the 50 rd boxes.
In the 100 rd boxes it drops to $.22/round.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 07:19 PM

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On 3/1/13 2:18 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:01:18 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:32:18 -0500, J Herring
wrote:

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50


I am not biting at that price. 9mm should be 15 cents a shot.


Me neither. But even WalMart is getting around $.28/round for Federal FMJ 9mm, in the 50 rd boxes.
In the 100 rd boxes it drops to $.22/round.


So, have you accumulated 100 boxes of 100 round each yet?

F.O.A.D. March 1st 13 07:21 PM

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On 3/1/13 2:06 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:21:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's pretty decent legislation, but we'll have to see if it clears the
Maryland house. I don't see anything in it that would cause "panic
buying" of ammunition in this report from yesterday's WashPost. A
significant majority of Marylanders support the legislation.


Ambitious bill on gun control in Md. advances
By Aaron C. Davis, Published: February 28

Maryland Senate Democrats passed sweeping gun-control legislation
Thursday that would make the Free State the first in nearly 20 years to
require residents to submit to fingerprinting, training and background
checks to obtain a license to buy a firearm.


Is this going to be retroactive?


Unfortunately, no. I got "printed" when I got my carry permit, and took
much more serious training than the new law, if enacted, would require.

J Herring March 1st 13 07:41 PM

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:06:22 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:21:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's pretty decent legislation, but we'll have to see if it clears the
Maryland house. I don't see anything in it that would cause "panic
buying" of ammunition in this report from yesterday's WashPost. A
significant majority of Marylanders support the legislation.


Ambitious bill on gun control in Md. advances
By Aaron C. Davis, Published: February 28

Maryland Senate Democrats passed sweeping gun-control legislation
Thursday that would make the Free State the first in nearly 20 years to
require residents to submit to fingerprinting, training and background
checks to obtain a license to buy a firearm.


Is this going to be retroactive?


Probably not. Probably won't reduce the homicides in the state either. But, it'll make a few
liberals think the Democrats are really out to protect the population. Since August, 1982, 20
assault weapons were used in mass (4 or more fatalities) shootings. That's it folks, 20 assault
weapons used in 30 years. The mass shootings in the country during that time accounted for about 525
fatalities. That's just about what Chicago had in 2012, and Chicago doesn't even make the top 10 of
America's deadliest cities! (And now that Washington DC has relaxed it's gun laws, it doesn'tmake
the cut either. The new Maryland law should make a *huge* difference. We'll see how it reduces the
homicides in Prince Georges County.
--
Salmonbait

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Wayne B March 1st 13 08:32 PM

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:30:12 -0500, J Herring
wrote:

LOL Harry, and how much did you give for that 'custom shop' CZ?


I wonder if the holes in ESAD's famous target sheet were from the CZ or a #2 Pencil?


===

The custom CZ is probably another Hatteras sportfish or lobster boat.


Wayne B March 1st 13 08:42 PM

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:19:42 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/1/13 2:18 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:01:18 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:32:18 -0500, J Herring
wrote:

Tim gave me a heads up on a place near him that got in some 9mm. He checked the price, $30 for a box
of 50

I am not biting at that price. 9mm should be 15 cents a shot.


Me neither. But even WalMart is getting around $.28/round for Federal FMJ 9mm, in the 50 rd boxes.
In the 100 rd boxes it drops to $.22/round.


So, have you accumulated 100 boxes of 100 round each yet?


======

There are lots of guys who burn through that much in 6 months or less
of target practice or competition.



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