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iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On 2/15/2013 3:27 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/15/2013 1:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Reasons for "jailbreaking" an iPhone, continued?

http://tinyurl.com/bfovsmo

These are the "apps" I've added to my iPhone that weren't available from
Apple:

AllMail
Allows me to check and then delete or store a long list of emails,
whether I've read them or not, by a single tap on the selector.

Any Attach
Allows attachment of any sort of file to an email.

ayecon
A new, fancier set of on-screen icons.

Infinifolders
Increases the number of apps you can put in a folder.

KillBackground
Kills all background tasks at once.

NCSettings
Puts a bunch of toggles in the iPhone notification center.

Nitrous
Speeds up web access of non-Apple web browsers.

PasswordPilot
Saves passwords and inserts them where needed.

PKGBackup
Saves JB apps to the "cloud."

ProTube
A better way to enjoy youtube vids.

Winterboard
An umbrella for loading different visual effects and icons on the iPhone.

iBlacklist
Doesn't show here, but has its own icon. Allows easy blocking of
telemarketing calls.

AnnoyRightiesIntoSuicide
Still under development, but when it arrives, "priceless."

Most of these apps are available at no charge, but several required me
to pay anywhere between 99 cents and a few dollars. As always, snotty
comments from the snotties are always welcome and mostly not read.

There are Android apps for all of that stuff.

I guess if I wanted to go bankrupt and **** all my creditors I could
have an IPhone and a big boat too..

Or you could get a job.

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:27:20 -0500, Meyer wrote:

There are Android apps for all of that stuff.

That is because Android is an open OS. Anyone can write an Android ap.

Apple is a closed OS and if Steve Jobs didn't think you needed it, you
couldn't have it ... hence the jailbreak.

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

F.O.A.D.

On 2/16/13 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:27:20 -0500, Meyer wrote:

There are Android apps for all of that stuff.

That is because Android is an open OS. Anyone can write an Android ap.

Apple is a closed OS and if Steve Jobs didn't think you needed it, you
couldn't have it ... hence the jailbreak.

Yup, exactly the reason I am fully vested in Android technology, open
source.

I liked my rooted Android phone when I had it. In terms of usefulness, I
don't see much difference between the Android phones and iPhones. I am
not "drowning" in apps.

I do wish the engineers and manufacturers of these phones would spend
more time on improving the "phone" aspect and less time on the non-phone
gimmickry.

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

I remember those days, company I worked for had a Compaq computer and
every card in it had to be from Compaq, including the modem.

Urin Asshole

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

F.O.A.D.

On 2/16/13 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

I think the phrase "bricked" has devolved. The way I learned it,
"bricked" meant, basically, destroyed and unlikely to come back to life.

By that definition, I've not bricked any of my smart phones. I have
inadvertently put them into "safe mode" on occasion, but the recovery
was easy.

As for iBlacklist, I had a minor issue with it regarding keyboard entry.
The keyboard would turn blue and cover the input areas. I could fix it
temporarily by a respring. So I sent an email to the app's author, he
told me it was a known issue, and pointed me to a software workaround
that in fact works, and also told me the next app update will have a
permanent fix.

I'm pretty careful about what I load onto my computers or smart phones
or tablets. Compared to many users, I don't have many Cydia apps on my
iPhone. And as you point out, there is plenty of help on the web.

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

Meyer[_2_]

On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk

Urin Asshole

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:23:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/16/13 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

I think the phrase "bricked" has devolved. The way I learned it,
"bricked" meant, basically, destroyed and unlikely to come back to life.

By that definition, I've not bricked any of my smart phones. I have
inadvertently put them into "safe mode" on occasion, but the recovery
was easy.

As for iBlacklist, I had a minor issue with it regarding keyboard entry.
The keyboard would turn blue and cover the input areas. I could fix it
temporarily by a respring. So I sent an email to the app's author, he
told me it was a known issue, and pointed me to a software workaround
that in fact works, and also told me the next app update will have a
permanent fix.

I'm pretty careful about what I load onto my computers or smart phones
or tablets. Compared to many users, I don't have many Cydia apps on my
iPhone. And as you point out, there is plenty of help on the web.

My definition is when it won't boot up not even safemode. That's what
happened. I've heard of hurlers (people who throw their phones when
they're ****ed off).

Urin Asshole

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:08:01 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk

Yeah, you're stupid. We get it.

BAR[_2_]

In article om,
says...

On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids.

Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is
what it is and therefore everybody's is the same.

That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2
PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on
their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it
would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ
conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources.

I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I
started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I
was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I
wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the
conflicts I might encounter.

I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone,
it is on him to fix it now.

Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's
list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I
got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how
on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder
back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then
downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I
restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you
sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but
I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back
in some folders. Too about an hour.

Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh..

Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk

My iPhone is a tool. I don't need to play with it and load any
application on it I believe I need. When someone calls me I need the
phone to ring and enable me to answer the call and talk to the other
person. Next I need to be able to use the e-mail and calendar
capability.

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