"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...


The real question isn't being asked...the real question is "what the
hell are we doing making war on people in so many places, and are our
efforts making us safer?"

It's been entertaining watching John McCain and Lindsay Graham going
over the waterfall the last couple of weeks over the Chuck Hagel
nomination. The two are still upset that Hagel thought Dubya's
initiation of wars against Iraq and Afghanistan were ill-advised, and
McCain and the rest of the neocons are upset that Hagel might not be
as
eager as they are to initiate a war against Iran. And this gets back
to
my disdain for the military establishment, of which McCain and his
buddies are a part.


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I can understand why we originally went into Afghanistan. But I
don't understand why we are still there, other than political deals.

As for McCain, I respect his military service and hardships he
endured, but as a United States Senator he has lost all his luster.
He's just as bad as the ultra left progressives, IMO. Time to
retire, I think .... maybe past his time.

On 2/15/13 8:18 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

Nope, don't get my kicks by making folks hate... just not what I find
fun like kevin and harry... I would rather have my friends..


Are your friends as uneducated, ignorant, and unemployable as you are?

On 2/15/13 8:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...


The real question isn't being asked...the real question is "what the
hell are we doing making war on people in so many places, and are our
efforts making us safer?"

It's been entertaining watching John McCain and Lindsay Graham going
over the waterfall the last couple of weeks over the Chuck Hagel
nomination. The two are still upset that Hagel thought Dubya's
initiation of wars against Iraq and Afghanistan were ill-advised, and
McCain and the rest of the neocons are upset that Hagel might not be as
eager as they are to initiate a war against Iran. And this gets back to
my disdain for the military establishment, of which McCain and his
buddies are a part.


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I can understand why we originally went into Afghanistan. But I don't
understand why we are still there, other than political deals.

As for McCain, I respect his military service and hardships he endured,
but as a United States Senator he has lost all his luster.
He's just as bad as the ultra left progressives, IMO. Time to retire,
I think .... maybe past his time.




Ultra left progressives? Hell, I don't know any, and I have actual
socialists among my friends and acquaintances. Who are some ultra left
progressives in positions of influence and authority?

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 03:24:49 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Feb 14, 12:44*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/14/13 1:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:46:15 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...and here's a good example of why!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=722_1360164856

When are you going to sign up?

Johnny Boy Herring claims he served as a combat engineer during our war
against Vietnam. I've asked him several times how many Vietnamese people
he killed with explosives or even his rifle, but as far as I recall, he
has never responded with the facts.

Harry, Engineers arn't combat troops, They build stuff like roads,
bridges, etc. not that doesn't mean they're not also trained in
fighting. Don't personally know, but with a bit of speculation, I'd
say John 'probably' didn't kill anybody.

BTW, ESAD is doing his best to get a rise out of me, and he's failing. He's as easy to ignore as
Kevin or urine.


Salmonbait

I guess when one is your age and wears Depends, it's easy to ignore your
urine.

On Feb 15, 6:43*am, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 03:24:49 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Feb 14, 12:44 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/14/13 1:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:46:15 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...and here's a good example of why!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=722_1360164856

When are you going to sign up?

Johnny Boy Herring claims he served as a combat engineer during our war
against Vietnam. I've asked him several times how many Vietnamese people
he killed with explosives or even his rifle, but as far as I recall, he
has never responded with the facts.

Harry, Engineers arn't combat troops, They build stuff like roads,
bridges, etc. *not that doesn't mean they're not also trained in
fighting. Don't personally know, but with a bit of speculation, I'd
say John 'probably' didn't kill anybody.

Well, I'd have to disagree about the first sentence. They're called Combat Engineers for a reason.
But, I'm not going to delve into specifics.

Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if...

...hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes
and government intrusion, while slothful, lazy
behavior is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks,
Medicaid, subsidized housing, and free cell phones.

Well yes, John. I didn't say you didn't blow stuff up.

but "Combat" [usually] isn't in the picture that is unless the orders
are specified. At least that's what I gather.

On Feb 15, 5:39*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/15/13 6:24 AM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 14, 12:44 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/14/13 1:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:46:15 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...and here's a good example of why!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=722_1360164856

When are you going to sign up?

Johnny Boy Herring claims he served as a combat engineer during our war
against Vietnam. I've asked him several times how many Vietnamese people
he killed with explosives or even his rifle, but as far as I recall, he
has never responded with the facts.

Harry, Engineers arn't combat troops, They build stuff like roads,
bridges, etc. *not that doesn't mean they're not also trained in
fighting. Don't personally know, but with a bit of speculation, I'd
say John 'probably' didn't kill anybody.

I understand that, and I also understand they usually aren't
"engineers," as we think of that term in the construction industry.
Combat engineers also blow things up.

I had two great-uncles who were engineers. They both drove steam
locomotives at5 the turn of the last century

On 2/15/13 8:35 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 15, 5:39 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/15/13 6:24 AM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 14, 12:44 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/14/13 1:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:46:15 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...and here's a good example of why!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=722_1360164856

When are you going to sign up?

Johnny Boy Herring claims he served as a combat engineer during our war
against Vietnam. I've asked him several times how many Vietnamese people
he killed with explosives or even his rifle, but as far as I recall, he
has never responded with the facts.

Harry, Engineers arn't combat troops, They build stuff like roads,
bridges, etc. not that doesn't mean they're not also trained in
fighting. Don't personally know, but with a bit of speculation, I'd
say John 'probably' didn't kill anybody.

I understand that, and I also understand they usually aren't
"engineers," as we think of that term in the construction industry.
Combat engineers also blow things up.

I had two great-uncles who were engineers. They both drove steam
locomotives at5 the turn of the last century



I have a relative who drove diesel locomotives, but he wasn't an engineer.

On 2/15/2013 8:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/15/13 8:35 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 15, 5:39 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/15/13 6:24 AM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 14, 12:44 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/14/13 1:38 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013
12:46:15 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...and here's a good example of why!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=722_1360164856

When are you going to sign up?

Johnny Boy Herring claims he served as a combat engineer during our
war
against Vietnam. I've asked him several times how many Vietnamese
people
he killed with explosives or even his rifle, but as far as I
recall, he
has never responded with the facts.

Harry, Engineers arn't combat troops, They build stuff like roads,
bridges, etc. not that doesn't mean they're not also trained in
fighting. Don't personally know, but with a bit of speculation, I'd
say John 'probably' didn't kill anybody.

I understand that, and I also understand they usually aren't
"engineers," as we think of that term in the construction industry.
Combat engineers also blow things up.

I had two great-uncles who were engineers. They both drove steam
locomotives at5 the turn of the last century



I have a relative who drove diesel locomotives, but he wasn't an engineer.

You also have a relative who is a social worker but not a real Doctor.

You claim to be a writer, but seriously, that title doesn't fit you
well, does it?

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news

Ultra left progressives? Hell, I don't know any, and I have actual
socialists among my friends and acquaintances. Who are some ultra left
progressives in positions of influence and authority?

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My phrase, perhaps incorrect. I'd consider Elizabeth Warren one,
although as previously stated I think she did a heck of a good job
embarrassing the members of the Senate Banking Committee.

Mostly I am annoyed by the extreme political pundits of the media ....
of both sides. Have you noticed the new quickie ad MSNBC is running
featuring the "Rev" Al? He's reciting part of the Pledge of
Allegiance, " ..... One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all." "Under God" is still officially part of the pledge,
although there are those who want it removed. So, the "Rev" is
helping lead the cause.

On 2/15/13 8:51 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news

Ultra left progressives? Hell, I don't know any, and I have actual
socialists among my friends and acquaintances. Who are some ultra left
progressives in positions of influence and authority?

------------------------------------------

My phrase, perhaps incorrect. I'd consider Elizabeth Warren one,
although as previously stated I think she did a heck of a good job
embarrassing the members of the Senate Banking Committee.

Mostly I am annoyed by the extreme political pundits of the media ....
of both sides. Have you noticed the new quickie ad MSNBC is running
featuring the "Rev" Al? He's reciting part of the Pledge of
Allegiance, " ..... One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all." "Under God" is still officially part of the pledge,
although there are those who want it removed. So, the "Rev" is
helping lead the cause.


I see Warren as a moderate Democrat. As I said, I have friends who by
today's standard would be consider "far lefties," but by the standards
of the 60's and early 70's would have been moderates. Hell, my mother
was a lifelong Republican who for years was a minor functionary in the
local party but by today's standards would probably be considered a commie.

Getting rid of the "under God" phrase isn't particularly leftie. It's
more like an effort to keep state and religion separate. Heck, it's not
like the pledge goes back to the founding fathers: the pledge wasn't
even the official pledge until 1942, and the "under god" bit wasn't
shoved in until the mid 1950's.

I like the modern "Rev. Al" a lot better than I liked the older model.
He's matured a lot. I also appreciate the fact that MSNBC has no problem
putting a host on the air who sometimes struggles with pronouncing some
of the words he uses. It shows a bit of humanity. The Rev's heart is in
the right place, and, as my wife says, "He's the sharpest dresser on TV!"