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Meyer[_2_] January 29th 13 02:59 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

No matter How much training Krause got, he's never been able to overcome
the limp wristing. Can't make a fist either. Must be all that motherly
love he got when he was a child.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute January 29th 13 03:00 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!



iBoaterer[_2_] January 29th 13 03:01 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/29/2013 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


He's not getting them to fire them, he's getting them because like the
other lemmings, now that someone is doing something positive about
controlling them, he's against it because it's a liberal doing it.


Cite?


rec.boats.

ESAD January 29th 13 03:18 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Salmonbait

--


Perhaps you'll like the recoil and snap of .40 S&W in a pocket pistol. I
didn't when I tried one.


ESAD January 29th 13 03:23 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 9:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock.
Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in
357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5
). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is
looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22
before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on
my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough
for me.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

No matter How much training Krause got, he's never been able to overcome
the limp wristing. Can't make a fist either. Must be all that motherly
love he got when he was a child.



D'uh. In terms of firing a semi-auto pistol, you obviously do not
understand the concept of "limp wristing." Limp wristing is associated
with a semi-auto failing to cycle properly. Dumb little ****.

Meyer[_2_] January 29th 13 03:56 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 10:23 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/29/13 9:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock.
Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in
357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5
). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is
looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22
before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on
my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough
for me.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

No matter How much training Krause got, he's never been able to overcome
the limp wristing. Can't make a fist either. Must be all that motherly
love he got when he was a child.



D'uh. In terms of firing a semi-auto pistol, you obviously do not
understand the concept of "limp wristing." Limp wristing is associated
with a semi-auto failing to cycle properly. Dumb little ****.


Oh, I'm afraid I do, little man. Learn to overcome your limp wristing
and you might find that your "muzzle flip" problem is lessened. Perhaps
you need some more training on the basics.

Salmonbait[_2_] January 29th 13 06:04 PM

Which to get...
 
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:33:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 4:28:08 PM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:



On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:




No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here




are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.






What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!




I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry

if I wanted to do so.



I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem

now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Budsgunshop.com? They say shipping in 7-10 days.


Bud's has it, according to this:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/m...0s_blackss_14r

But, I can get it local thru Gander Mountain for $395, which includes the shipping. And, there'd be
no 'transfer fee'.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 29th 13 06:50 PM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

JustWaitAFrekinMinute January 29th 13 09:13 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!



Salmonbait[_2_] January 29th 13 10:02 PM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Meyer[_2_] January 29th 13 10:06 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


BUY AMERICAN MADE

Salmonbait[_2_] January 29th 13 10:19 PM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:06:57 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/29/2013 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


BUY AMERICAN MADE


Well, to be totally hones, I *do* like this pistol a lot more than the CZ.

http://tinyurl.com/aynpk3p

Do you think I could take up a collection in rec.boats? My wife really wants me to get something for
the trailer when we're staying in a WalMart parking lot.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

ESAD January 29th 13 10:32 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 5:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Do you think I could take up a collection in rec.boats? My wife really wants me to get something for
the trailer when we're staying in a WalMart parking lot.


Salmonbait

--


Try antiseptic spray.


ESAD January 29th 13 10:54 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!



You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."

Tim January 29th 13 11:39 PM

Which to get...
 
On Jan 29, 4:54*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:









On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:


No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here


are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers..


What do have against revolvers? *Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. *I really like mine!


I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.


I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?


Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.


Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.


I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh.... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..


Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...


Just my .02...


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of:http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp


Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."


Czech loads for a Czech pistol.

Makes sense to me...

BAR[_2_] January 29th 13 11:57 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
..22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 12:53 AM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 12:55 AM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:39:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 29, 4:54*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:









On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:


No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here


are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? *Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. *I really like mine!


I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.


I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?


Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.


Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.


I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..


Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...


Just my .02...


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of:http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp


Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."


Czech loads for a Czech pistol.

Makes sense to me...


I don't mind cleaning a pistol, so I won't be investing big bucks for target practice.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

BAR[_2_] January 30th 13 12:59 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870


Meyer[_2_] January 30th 13 01:25 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 02:53 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:59:28 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870


Already got one of these in the hall closet:

http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/56279.jpg

Winchester Model 50.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 04:25 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

ESAD January 30th 13 04:55 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/13 11:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

--



If you were set on a polymer carry gun with striker and no safety or
decocker, you should have gotten a Glock 19. About the same size, much
better trigger without modifications.


Meyer[_2_] January 30th 13 06:46 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 11:55 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/30/13 11:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait
wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out
of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40
calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger
SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40
is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or
a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will
'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good
enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause
has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says
as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local
store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five
hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the
ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as
you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my
opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what
to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him
were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted
certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He
continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a
guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played...
say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and
probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more
comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer
that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that
seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert
Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs
new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's
about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with
something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and
won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some
targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of
others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just
have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would
pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch
holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense
- in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both
Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in
the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid


or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

--



If you were set on a polymer carry gun with striker and no safety or
decocker, you should have gotten a Glock 19. About the same size, much
better trigger without modifications.


That doesn't look like a carry gun to me. Kahr pm9 is a carry gun.

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 07:10 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:46:37 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 11:55 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/30/13 11:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait
wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out
of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40
calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger
SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40
is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or
a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will
'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good
enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause
has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says
as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local
store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five
hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the
ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as
you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my
opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what
to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him
were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted
certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He
continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a
guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played...
say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and
probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more
comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer
that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that
seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert
Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs
new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's
about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with
something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and
won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some
targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of
others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just
have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would
pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch
holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense
- in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?

Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both
Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in
the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid


or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

--



If you were set on a polymer carry gun with striker and no safety or
decocker, you should have gotten a Glock 19. About the same size, much
better trigger without modifications.


That doesn't look like a carry gun to me. Kahr pm9 is a carry gun.


Done deal. Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

ESAD January 30th 13 07:12 PM

Which to get...
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:46:37 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 11:55 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/30/13 11:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait
wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out
of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40
calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger
SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40
is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or
a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will
'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good
enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause
has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says
as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local
store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five
hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the
ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as
you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my
opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what
to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him
were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted
certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He
continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a
guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played...
say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and
probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more
comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer
that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that
seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert
Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs
new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's
about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with
something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and
won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some
targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of
others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just
have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would
pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch
holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense
- in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?

Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both
Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in
the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid


or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

--



If you were set on a polymer carry gun with striker and no safety or
decocker, you should have gotten a Glock 19. About the same size, much
better trigger without modifications.


That doesn't look like a carry gun to me. Kahr pm9 is a carry gun.


Done deal. Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Duh. If you like 9mm compact striker guns, Glock is about the best,

Meyer[_2_] January 30th 13 10:13 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait


I have no idea. Who?


Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 10:25 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:13:31 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait


I have no idea. Who?


Maybe TN (think compass).


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Meyer[_2_] January 30th 13 10:36 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 5:25 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:13:31 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait


I have no idea. Who?


Maybe TN (think compass).


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Oh yeah. Forgot about him?

ESAD January 30th 13 10:43 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/13 5:25 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:13:31 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait


I have no idea. Who?


Maybe TN (think compass).


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!



It's not my problem if you bought yourself a crappy gun without a
safety. I hope when you take your grandkids to the range to play with
it, they understand what that means.

True North[_2_] January 30th 13 10:44 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:25:18 PM UTC-4, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:13:31 -0500, Meyer wrote:



On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?






Salmonbait




I have no idea. Who?




Maybe TN (think compass).





Salmonbait



--



'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


I'd be leery of gun advice from a nut who spent his Sunday shopping for firearms.
Were you that desperate to arm yourself?
Just what are you afraid of?

thumper January 31st 13 03:02 AM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 2:44 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:25:18 PM UTC-4, Salmonbait wrote:


Maybe TN (think compass).


I'd be leery of gun advice from a nut who spent his Sunday shopping for firearms.
Were you that desperate to arm yourself?
Just what are you afraid of?


WalMart customers while he's RV'ing.


BAR[_2_] January 31st 13 03:17 AM

Which to get...
 
In article om,
says...

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


18.5 inch barrel some revolvers have 10 inch barrels.



BAR[_2_] January 31st 13 03:19 AM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait


You will enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 31st 13 01:12 PM

Which to get...
 
In article m,
says...

On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?


Salmonbait


I have no idea. Who?


It depends on the advice. How to avoid paying your taxes and other
debts? Harry's your man!

iBoaterer[_2_] January 31st 13 01:13 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:25:18 PM UTC-4, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:13:31 -0500, Meyer wrote:



On 1/30/2013 2:10 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Besides, who'd take advice from one who ESAD?






Salmonbait




I have no idea. Who?




Maybe TN (think compass).





Salmonbait



--



'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


I'd be leery of gun advice from a nut who spent his Sunday shopping for firearms.
Were you that desperate to arm yourself?
Just what are you afraid of?


It's the Christian way!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 31st 13 01:29 PM

Which to get...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:19:34 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait


You will enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.


It's a 9mm, but I'll probably enjoy shooting it even more.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

BAR[_2_] January 31st 13 10:52 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:19:34 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?

Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait


You will enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.


It's a 9mm, but I'll probably enjoy shooting it even more.


Salmonbait


About $10 a box of 50 more.

I like my .40 better than I like my 9mm but both are eclipsed by the
..45.


Salmonbait[_2_] January 31st 13 11:13 PM

Which to get...
 
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:52:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:19:34 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!

Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?

Yup.

FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...view&from=grid

or:

http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait

You will enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.


It's a 9mm, but I'll probably enjoy shooting it even more.


Salmonbait


About $10 a box of 50 more.

I like my .40 better than I like my 9mm but both are eclipsed by the
.45.


I liked the .45 whenever I shot it, which was quite a bit. VII Corps was pretty strict about us
qualifying every year. The 9mm stuff cost $13/50 rds at WalMart. Prices are going up a lot lately.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Tim February 1st 13 02:40 AM

Which to get...
 
On Jan 31, 4:52*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...











On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:19:34 -0500, BAR wrote:


In article ,
says...


On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:25:14 -0500, Meyer wrote:


On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...


On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


In article ,
says...


On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:


No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here


are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? *Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. *I really like mine!


I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.


I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?


Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.


Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.


I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..


Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...


Just my .02...


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of:http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp


Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870


Isn't that a long gun?


Yup.


FWIW, I've decided to take your advice, and that of my brothers - both Smith and Wesson fans. *So, I
just placed an order for this pistol. You'll note that it is 'Made in the USA'.


http://www.gandermountain.com/modper...gi?pdesc=Smith...


or:


http://tinyurl.com/bk46w3v


Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.


Salmonbait


You will enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.


It's a 9mm, but I'll probably enjoy shooting it even more.


Salmonbait


About $10 a box of 50 more.

I like my .40 better than I like my 9mm but both are eclipsed by the
.45.


The .45 RULTZ!


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