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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)

Gee, that's not what the cite says......

Why would a puff piece about how wonderful DC is tell the truth about
how many people don't stay there?
You also notice they said there were not enough hotel rooms and that
DC was $322 million in the hole (in spite of huge federal infusions
of money)

As suspected. Please cite which statistics in the article you dispute
and give cites to what you believe the real numbers are......

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On Friday, December 28, 2012 7:29:40 PM UTC-6, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 8:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:11:59 -0500, wrote:



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:



On 12/27/12 2:41 PM, wrote:



Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population

as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller

geographic area.



D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own

political clout and independence.



Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC

just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only

industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270

corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially

legal bribery)



You seem to forget about all that Mideaster Heroin that's flooding the market in DC.





From where, down the street from you in nearby Springfield?

So, Herr Krause, you admit to know where the good drugs are. That's understandable.

He's also a tax cheat you know..

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)

Gee, that's not what the cite says......

It's an advertisement. Notice the reference to the 'backyard'. That's where folks stay - Virginia
and Maryland. It's why the Metro is so crowded whenever something is happening in DC. Folks are
coming in from MD and VA.

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Oh ESAD!

I'm not so stupid as to spend time walking around north of Pennsylvania Ave.

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)

Gee, that's not what the cite says......

It's an advertisement. Notice the reference to the 'backyard'. That's where folks stay - Virginia
and Maryland. It's why the Metro is so crowded whenever something is happening in DC. Folks are
coming in from MD and VA.

Cite?

On 12/29/12 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:18:54 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.

I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots
and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf


Your hot spots map from five years ago?

"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.
The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown
have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates
going down."

Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...

On 12/29/12 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Twice, also, does being shot at count?


I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed. I sometimes go into pretty rough neighborhoods,
too, since several of my clients are involved with investments and
construction in places like Anacostia. I've been "panhandled," of
course. My wife has been working almost every weekday in DC for 15
years, and in three different locations, travels all over DC for various
meetings and functions, and traveled via Metro hundreds of times to a
college campus on the fringe of several "rough" neighborhoods. She's
never been robbed or mugged, either.

Maybe we're just lucky, or maybe we don't look away in horror or disdain
at poor people, or people with different skin colors.

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Twice, also, does being shot at count?

The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer
in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change
buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to
go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,
turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different
types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station
which wasn't much better.