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On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:34:29 AM UTC-5, JustWait wrote:
On 12/19/2012 8:00 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:47:11 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/18/2012 3:29 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:48:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... Seems as if there are a couple questions to be answered. First, why did a person decide to massacre a room full of kids. And second, why target assault rifles because of this. He used pistols. ------------------------------------------------------ My understanding is that he used an assault type rifle or clone of one to kill the children and adults. He used a pistol to kill himself. Raises a disturbing question though. Those who advocate bans on assault and or/high capacity weapons (me included) have to acknowledge that a "number" is basically being established in terms of how many people a nut case can kill with one weapon. A magazine capacity of no more than 10 rounds seems to be a common recommendation. In fact, Dianne Feinstein (D) California just announced that she will introduce a bill immediately that limits magazine rounds to 10. So, does that mean that 10 people killed is an "acceptable" number in our society? Wouldn't 5 be better . How about 1? There are those who advocate banning guns altogether in the false hope that it would end these tragic events, but it won't. Too many guns exist and there are many other ways for nut cases to carry out mass murders. Banning guns isn't the answer. I find it a little strange that any number can be placed on magazine capacity that is "acceptable". How about if I can change magazines in three seconds (very easy, especially if one is taped to the other)? Then it takes only three seconds more to get up to twenty rounds. Another four or five seconds, depending on the location of the new magazine, to get up to thirty rounds off. Magazine limiting should be done, but just to keep some folks happy. It won't stop a determined killer in any way. It will. Bull****. A few short practice sessions in the bedroom would make it quite easy to change 10 round magazines quite rapidly. I have been watching videos of people put into situations where they think they are drawing on a situation. Some dropped the weapon, some froze, some got the thing caught in their tee shirt... Well, there you go. We should go to ten round magazines because anyone using more than one will drop his weapon, freeze, or get the magazine caught in a tee shirt. Right. A couple of the last shootings were stopped dead in their tracks when the shooter had mechanical problems, or had a bad clip, or jammed the weapon changing clips... Like I said, 1-10 is for defense. 30 is either for penis power, or offense... The jamming of a weapon may or may not be due to the clip. You've said nothing here that shows a ten round clip to be less usable for killing than a 30 round clip - penis power or not. ---------------------------------------------------------- There's no question that killing someone with a single shot derringer is possible. That's not really the question or issue. What has to be resolved in order to make any kind of meaningful gun control reform possible in this country is to define what the designed purpose of a weapon is. Defensive? Offensive? Yes, you can still kill with a gun primarily designed as a defensive weapon. But why make guns primarily designed as "offensive" weapons generally available to Joe Doe public? Doesn't make any sense. Is a knife defensive or offensive? Is a sword defensive or offensive? Is a baseball bat an offensive weapon or a defensive weapon. The common thread in all of the mass killings is that there is a person initiating the sequence of events. So, how about you try it since Greg won't answer the question... and remember, I support the second. But I am starting to wonder why you need a 30 round clip? Same reason someone "needs" a motocross bike. It's not a life necessity, but it can be fun. |
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