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On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 |
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On 12/17/2012 4:33 PM, wrote: On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 He'll pretend he doesn't see it... even an event like this can't make this guy man up... Answered, dip****. |
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says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 That is "mass shootings" only, dip. |
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 That is "mass shootings" only, dip. Which is the context of the current discussion. |
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On 12/18/2012 8:43 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 That is "mass shootings" only, dip. Which is the context of the current discussion. Well, until you prove loogie wrong, then the context will change...again. |
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In article , says...
On 12/18/2012 8:43 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 That is "mass shootings" only, dip. Which is the context of the current discussion. Well, until you prove loogie wrong, then the context will change...again. Well, there you go, back to nonsense.... |
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In article ,
says... On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 4:02:57 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:34:25 AM UTC-5, jps wrote: MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Was wrong whe he said: "The violence we see spreading... It is not spreading, it is actually reduced from 1980-90 levels. Cite? http://www.tampabay.com/news/criminologist-says-mass-shootings-show-no-pattern-or-increase/1266381 That is "mass shootings" only, dip. Which is the context of the current discussion. So in your narrow mind, the only gun violence is "mass shootings"?? Gee, then we have a really low number of gun violence incidences, but what do we do about the 100's of thousands of others? |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:55:56 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: So in your narrow mind, the only gun violence is "mass shootings"?? Gee, then we have a really low number of gun violence incidences, but what do we do about the 100's of thousands of others? 100s of thousands? Cite that No problem!! http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/guns.cfm http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-...ce/welcome.htm If we really wanted to make a dent in violent death we would end the drug war. That would certainly make a dent. Fact remains, some 90% of gun crimes were committed with a gun that someone either stole or "borrowed" from a legal owner. |
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:01:34 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:55:56 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: So in your narrow mind, the only gun violence is "mass shootings"?? Gee, then we have a really low number of gun violence incidences, but what do we do about the 100's of thousands of others? 100s of thousands? Cite that No problem!! http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/guns.cfm From that site: "Firearm-related crime has plummeted since 1993." "According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those posessing a gun, the source of the gun was from - - a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2% - a retail store or pawnshop for about 12% - family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%" Where's that 90% you claim are stolen? No cite for that? http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-...ce/welcome.htm Funny, if you drill down on this data, it separates deaths by handgun and "other guns". Since assault rifles aren't handguns, we must include them in with rifles and shotguns in "other guns". And the data shows not only that handgun deaths occur at around 4X the rate as all "other guns" combined, but also that the rate of deaths for all types have reduced sharply since the '90s, which is exactly what I quoted in another thread. Even more interesting is that the "other guns" death rate number roughly equals "knife" in deaths. JPS, pay attention. Thanks for not reading or understanding your own links enough to realize they don't support your statements at all. |
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