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Califbill December 15th 12 10:17 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present time.
Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central American
countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as Mexico. Get
rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government control same drugs,
and violence would fall much lower.


ESAD December 15th 12 10:19 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/12 5:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

-----------------------

Actually they were just extremely lucky in no dead. You are much more
likely to die of a slashing knife wound than a gun shot wound.


Tell that to the dead in Newtown, all of whom apparently were shot
multiple times by a Bushmaster .223 rifle. If the shooter had been armed
with knives, the brave teachers and administrators would have been able
to tackle him and drag him to the floor, more than likely.

Califbill December 15th 12 10:20 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 6:31 am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


Maybe you can't read between the lines, but if the knife wielder
wanted those kids dead. They would be.


And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two
societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly?

We are a nation of desperate people, with no national mental health
system (thanks to Reagan) a diminishing income vs. expense rate and a
society that promotes violence as a justifiable means to resolving
conflicts.

Think making guns real available is a good idea?

-----------------------------------


Regan did not shut down the mental health system. He went along with a very
liberal Legislature who wanted community health centers. So he went along
with the legislature. Not worth fighting. The Regional Centers were
actually funded under Regan. Since about Grey Davis, they have been cut
tremendously.


ESAD December 15th 12 10:21 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/12 5:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 6:31 am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


Maybe you can't read between the lines, but if the knife wielder
wanted those kids dead. They would be.


And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two
societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly?

We are a nation of desperate people, with no national mental health
system (thanks to Reagan) a diminishing income vs. expense rate and a
society that promotes violence as a justifiable means to resolving
conflicts.

Think making guns real available is a good idea?

-----------------------------------


Regan did not shut down the mental health system. He went along with a
very liberal Legislature who wanted community health centers. So he
went along with the legislature. Not worth fighting. The Regional
Centers were actually funded under Regan. Since about Grey Davis, they
have been cut tremendously.



Did you happen to see the word "national" in the previous post, Bilious?


Califbill December 15th 12 10:22 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
"ESAD" wrote in message
...

On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are training to
shoot somebody.


You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head like you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.


That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you from the
top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next stop
would be the county morgue.


------------------

maybe Dr. Dr. Dr. should spend some therapy time with you. You seem to be
violence prone.


Califbill December 15th 12 10:25 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 9:23 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:19 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps
wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us
safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones here
I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are
training to
shoot somebody.

You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head like you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.

That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you from
the
top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next stop
would be the county morgue.

Not if I shoot first...



Thank you for providing yet another bit of "justification" for taking
care of you immediately upon your breaking in...



What if I wait outside, and pick you off like a stray pig...


Duly noted.


----------------

Why don't you three get in a circle just like in The Good, the Bad, and the
Ugly. and settle, who is the most bloodthirsty and best shot.


iBoaterer[_2_] December 15th 12 10:27 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article , lid says...

On 12/15/2012 6:20 AM, JustWait wrote:

He would freeze, like any other coward...


You're calling people cowards a lot lately, sure looks like projection.


Yes, it's all part of insanity.

ESAD December 15th 12 10:28 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/12 5:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
...

On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us
safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are training to
shoot somebody.

You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head like you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.


That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you from the
top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next stop
would be the county morgue.


------------------

maybe Dr. Dr. Dr. should spend some therapy time with you. You seem to
be violence prone.


Because I'd shoot a home invader? You get more bat**** crazy every year.
What would you do if someone broke into your house with the intent to
kill you or your wife? Say, "my wife's in the den, go get her?"


Who was that crazy Georgia politician you so admired, the one who was
insane?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 15th 12 10:29 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article ,
says...

"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present time.
Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central American
countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as Mexico. Get
rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government control same drugs,
and violence would fall much lower.


Here you go:

http://crookedtimber.org/2012/07/20/...olent-country/



Califbill December 16th 12 12:25 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present time.
Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central American
countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as Mexico. Get
rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government control same drugs,
and violence would fall much lower.


Here you go:

http://crookedtimber.org/2012/07/20/...olent-country/


I see no central or South America countries. No Mexico. I see some small,
very single race countries. America was settled by those with aggressive
tendencies. Took a lot to move from another country to here. Was the
aggressive ones. But why are we going bonkers now? Why is China seeing
the same mass attacks? We, as a society need to learn why things have gone
off the rails. Look at the lack of civility from our elected
representatives. Both sides of the aisle!

JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 03:26 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/2012 5:17 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present
time. Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central
American countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as
Mexico. Get rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government
control same drugs, and violence would fall much lower.


You mean harry made up a fact??? LOL! I am astonished:)

JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 03:28 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.


Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...

JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 03:31 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/2012 4:30 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:13:14 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?


I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots ...


How about, brain stem idiots like yourself who will use any means
possible to make everyone else live up to your standards, is exactly why
the rest of us need guns...


Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.


Great. Start it off. What would be your solution. You shouldn't have to be a religious or political
leader to have an idea about weapons management in our society. Why refer to your post as 'stupid
talk'?



JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 03:32 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/2012 4:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/15/2012 6:20 AM, JustWait wrote:

He would freeze, like any other coward...


You're calling people cowards a lot lately, sure looks like projection.


Yeah, that's it... that's why I spend so much time making sure I never
have to be accountable for what I say here... Oh, wait!!!

JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 03:35 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/15/2012 2:30 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:09:13 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/15/2012 7:33 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:15:41 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are training to
shoot somebody.

I've never said that I own guns. You make **** up constantly.


Yes you did..
I've
repeatedly said that I got rid of the one gun I ever owned 20+ years
ago. I don't expect you were paying attention, just like in school.


Well, we do know you are a consistent liar.. ready to say anything to
make your selfish point...


You are a mental health case. I have nothing to gain from lying. You
seem to be on some sort of point system, wherein lying helps you gain
points.

I haven't owned a gun in 20+ years. Please feel free to quote me if
you can find a statement otherwise.


So, it was ok when you thought you needed one, before you moved into
your imaginary 20,000 sq foot house in your perfectly balanced gated
community... Typical, we get it. Now you expect us all to live up to
your new standards... Ok...

Califbill December 16th 12 05:04 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...


We have always had bullies. Why do we now seem to have to settle
everything with deadly violence? In the 1950's when I was in school, you
used fisticuffs, not guns, knives, baseball bats.

Tim December 16th 12 05:39 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Dec 15, 1:26*pm, jps wrote:


And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two
societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly?


Not much. Nothing is a 'weapon' until it's turned into one, regardless
of if it's a gun, knife, claw hammer, axe, box opener...

We are a nation of desperate people,


And why is that?

Think making guns real available is a good idea?


No. I obtained mine legally and maintain and use them in accordance
with State and Federal laws. If that's not suitable for you then by
all means get out of the dump and run for high office. Then do what
you can to change the law.


Earl[_68_] December 16th 12 05:42 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us
safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are training to
shoot somebody.

You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head like you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.


That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you from
the top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next
stop would be the county morgue.


Your "wife" would be laundering your shorts. Your taxes would remain
unpaid.

Earl[_68_] December 16th 12 05:43 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:20 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:17 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps
wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns make us
safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones
here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are
training to
shoot somebody.

You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head like you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.

That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you from
the
top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next stop
would be the county morgue.
Just say you'd shoot him dead. Spare us the embellishments.


He would freeze, like any other coward... I know he has never pointed a
weapon at someone and pulled the trigger... It's not as easy as it
sounds.



Snotty's willing to bet his life on his projection of ignorance. :)

Actually, for me, it would be pretty easy, Snotty. I wouldn't hesitate
for a split second to take out a home invader like you who breaks his
way in, and I am sure I am a far better shot than you would be.

From a tough guy who doesn't pay his taxes.

Earl[_68_] December 16th 12 05:45 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 10:11 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:44 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:34 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:25 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:23 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:19 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 9:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/15/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 7:11 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/14/12 11:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2012 10:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/14/2012 1:40 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps
wrote:

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

Should all those kids have had CC permits since more guns
make us
safer
or just the teacher so she could shoot her son?


Why ask us, why not ask harry and jps, they are the only ones
here I
know that keep guns for protection? Only the libs here are
training to
shoot somebody.

You never know when a violent, foul-mouthed little ****head
like
you
will bust into the house on a mission of violence.

That's for sure. better keep your head down.


Oh, I'm not concerned about what might happen if you broke
into the
house here. You'd leave on a gurney, with a sheet covering you
from
the
top of your head to the soles of your feet, and your body's next
stop
would be the county morgue.

Not if I shoot first...


Thank you for providing yet another bit of "justification" for
taking
care of you immediately upon your breaking in...



What if I wait outside, and pick you off like a stray pig...


For reasons I won't discuss here, that would be very difficult for a
little turd like you.

Oh yeah, forgot about the wheelchair.... gonna' chock on your own spew
soon?


Are you going to talk some more about cock sucking in front of your
children?


Let's not forget, this whole thread started because you had to feed your
ego over the tragedy... How soon was it, like two hours???



That's just another of the strange fantasies that course through your
psychosis. All I did was inquire as to your whereabouts, since, as a
short, violent, angry little ****, I wouldn't put shooting up a school
beyond you. It was all about you, not about me.

You are the one with the obvious mental problem, Harry. Does your
narcissism prevent you from paying your taxes, too?

JustWait[_2_] December 16th 12 05:46 AM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/2012 12:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...


We have always had bullies. Why do we now seem to have to settle
everything with deadly violence? In the 1950's when I was in school, you
used fisticuffs, not guns, knives, baseball bats.


You asked a question, I answered it. I read a report today that
suggested mass murder was at it's worse here in the US around 1929...

GuzzisRule December 16th 12 12:59 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

What we really need, to help reduce the violence in our society, is more Democrat mayors in the
large population cities. That way more Democrat mayors can line their pockets while the uneducated
poor keep the violence curve at a high level.

Now, shut up and pay your taxes.

Here, this might give you an idea:

The Democrats have contributed greatly to the poor - by keeping them
poor.

Interesting........
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29..9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty
rate all have in common? Democrat mayors.


Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a
Republican mayor since 1961;


Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same
thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

ESAD December 16th 12 01:08 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.


Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Tim December 16th 12 01:20 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Dec 16, 7:08*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:


On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,....


22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.


I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe..


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.


Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...

ESAD December 16th 12 01:26 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:


On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.


I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.


Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?

BAR[_2_] December 16th 12 01:46 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article 81d78325-b30e-4e09-b93b-
, says...

On Dec 16, 7:08*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:


On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.


I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.


Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...


Harry can't lash out about anything political these days due to the fact
that he has no credibility in that arena anymore. It is hard to chastise
people for their political views when they can throw your hypocritical
tax dodging and draft dodging activities right back in your face.

All Harry has left now is personal insults.



BAR[_2_] December 16th 12 01:51 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?


Being anti-teachers union is not the sole domain of John. The teachers
unions have been screwing the children of this country for 75 years. The
teachers and their unions are only concerned with getting higher pay and
preserving their jobs. Why does a first-grade teacher need tenure? Why
does a high school teacher need tenure? Elementary and secondary schools
are not known for their research and thus tenure is not an issue.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 01:58 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 5:17 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present
time. Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central
American countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as
Mexico. Get rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government
control same drugs, and violence would fall much lower.


You mean harry made up a fact??? LOL! I am astonished:)


Uh, look at the URL I posted you stupid fool.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 01:59 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...


Ha!!! Scotties crying about bullies again...

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 01:59 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article , says...

On 12/16/2012 12:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...


We have always had bullies. Why do we now seem to have to settle
everything with deadly violence? In the 1950's when I was in school, you
used fisticuffs, not guns, knives, baseball bats.


You asked a question, I answered it. I read a report today that
suggested mass murder was at it's worse here in the US around 1929...


Cite?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 02:00 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 4:30 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:13:14 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots ...


How about, brain stem idiots like yourself who will use any means
possible to make everyone else live up to your standards, is exactly why
the rest of us need guns...


Yeah, every grade school kid should have to have a sidearm to go to
school, right? Idiot.


Meyer[_2_] December 16th 12 02:55 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/2012 8:51 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?


Being anti-teachers union is not the sole domain of John. The teachers
unions have been screwing the children of this country for 75 years. The
teachers and their unions are only concerned with getting higher pay and
preserving their jobs. Why does a first-grade teacher need tenure? Why
does a high school teacher need tenure? Elementary and secondary schools
are not known for their research and thus tenure is not an issue.


Krause is riding a dying, if not dead, horse. Michigan, with one of the
strongest unions, went Right To Work. Lets see how that affects future
union contracts.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 03:35 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article om,
says...

On 12/16/2012 8:51 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?


Being anti-teachers union is not the sole domain of John. The teachers
unions have been screwing the children of this country for 75 years. The
teachers and their unions are only concerned with getting higher pay and
preserving their jobs. Why does a first-grade teacher need tenure? Why
does a high school teacher need tenure? Elementary and secondary schools
are not known for their research and thus tenure is not an issue.


Krause is riding a dying, if not dead, horse. Michigan, with one of the
strongest unions, went Right To Work. Lets see how that affects future
union contracts.


Yeah, you guys just can't wait until we can force 10 year old kids to
work in slave shops for next to nothing, in deplorable and dangerous
working conditions. All children and adults in the household having to
work that way just to eat and keep a roof over their heads.

GuzzisRule December 16th 12 04:29 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:26:24 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 6:31*am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47*am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


Maybe you can't read between the lines, but if the knife wielder
wanted those kids dead. They would be.


And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two
societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly?

We are a nation of desperate people, with no national mental health
system (thanks to Reagan) a diminishing income vs. expense rate and a
society that promotes violence as a justifiable means to resolving
conflicts.

Think making guns real available is a good idea?


Great. Start the discussion. What would be your solution. You shouldn't have to be a religious or
political leader to have an idea about weapons management in our society.

GuzzisRule December 16th 12 04:38 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:13:44 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score points
in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.


Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small, innocent
children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more are going off
the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too many people
congesting an area? Why?


Interesting article: http://tinyurl.com/924c7d6

Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_II:_The_Chosen

Here's a whole list of games the kids can play.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...erson_shooters

I'm no doctor, but I think the emergence of these and other computer games add greatly to the ADD
and ADHD problems in this country.

ESAD December 16th 12 04:48 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/12 11:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:13:44 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score points
in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small, innocent
children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more are going off
the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too many people
congesting an area? Why?


Interesting article: http://tinyurl.com/924c7d6

Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_II:_The_Chosen

Here's a whole list of games the kids can play.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...erson_shooters

I'm no doctor, but I think the emergence of these and other computer games add greatly to the ADD
and ADHD problems in this country.



You're right, you're not a doctor.

Possible causes in the literature of ADD:


nutrition and food factors, such as a lack of omega-3 fatty acids
genetic factors
brain injuries
environmental, such as maternal smoking while pregnant, or exposure to
various toxins
weak internal brain "white matter" connections.


But not video games.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 16th 12 05:52 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:13:44 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score points
in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small, innocent
children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more are going off
the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too many people
congesting an area? Why?


Interesting article:
http://tinyurl.com/924c7d6

Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_II:_The_Chosen

Here's a whole list of games the kids can play.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...erson_shooters

I'm no doctor, but I think the emergence of these and other computer games add greatly to the ADD
and ADHD problems in this country.


Although ADHD is a made up disease, I'm sure a lot of disciplinary and
mental problems probably can be a result of such activity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jR6wfoHJJs
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/414849.aspx

Medicate them so that they won't act like kids so that the teacher and
parents don't have to be troubled by them.

GuzzisRule December 16th 12 07:00 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:20:27 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 16, 7:08*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:


On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.


I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...


22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.


I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.


Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...


When he can't respond to the subject of the post, he resorts to name-calling. Best to disregard it.

Meyer[_2_] December 16th 12 07:26 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
On 12/16/2012 2:00 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:20:27 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?


Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...


When he can't respond to the subject of the post, he resorts to name-calling. Best to disregard it.

Krause was hand picked and trained by Al Sharpton.

BAR[_2_] December 16th 12 08:57 PM

Snickering Snotty
 
In article m,
says...

On 12/16/2012 2:00 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:20:27 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...


When he can't respond to the subject of the post, he resorts to name-calling. Best to disregard it.

Krause was hand picked and trained by Al Sharpton.


In more ways than you know. Al Sharpton has taxes issues too.




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